Why Hitler hated Jews

Hitler was wrong about the Jews but why he thought what he did is only a mystery if you want it to be

How do we explain Hitler’s attitudes towards the Jews?  Dietrich (1988) studied Hitler’s antisemitism at great length and concluded that Hitler’s antisemitism was only a minor part of his popular appeal to Germans.  One reason why that was so is the important but seldom stressed fact that there was nothing at all odd or unusual about a dislike of Jews almost anywhere in the world of the 1930s.  Hitler was to a considerable degree simply voicing the conventional wisdom of his times and he was far from alone in doing so.  The plain fact is that it was not just the Nazis who brought about the holocaust.  To its shame, the whole world did.  That part of the world under Hitler’s control in general willingly assisted in rounding up Jews while the rest of the world refused to take Jewish refugees who tried to escape —just as the world would later refuse many Vietnamese and Cambodian refugees and will in due course refuse to take other would-be refugees from other places.  Racial affect is now recognized as universal in psychology textbooks (Brown, 1986) and Anti-Semitism is, sad to say, an old and widely popular European tradition.  There seems to be considerable truth in the view that the Nazis just applied German thoroughness to it. 

Nonetheless, Hitler was undoubtedly more than usually obsessed by the Jews.  What made him so obsessed?  What in particular made him BECOME antisemitic?  Mein Kampf is unreliable as objective history but there can be little doubt that it is good psychological history—i.e. it records Hitler’s own history as he saw it. And what he says there is that in Linz—where he grew up—there were few Jews and he saw them at that time as no different from other Germans. So when he moved to Vienna he was horrified at the antisemitism of much of the Viennese press. As he says in Mein Kampf:

“For the Jew was still characterized for me by nothing but his religion, and therefore, on grounds of human tolerance, I maintained my rejection of religious attacks in this case as in others. Consequently, the tone, particularly that of the Viennese anti-Semitic press, seemed to me unworthy of the cultural tradition of a great nation”.

That’s a pretty odd beginning for the man who became history’s biggest antisemite, is it not?  So there must have been a powerful force to bring about such a radical change.  And the force concerned was nothing other than the “love” relationship that existed   between Hitler and most of the Germans under his rule.  As any reader of Mein Kampf should be aware, the book is largely a love-song to the German people.  And that most Germans eventually returned that love is rather vividly borne out by the way they stuck with Hitler to the bitter end—long after it was at all reasonable to do so.  Compare Germany 1945 with the unrest in Germany prior to the 1918 surrender, the collapse in resistance in Western Russia and Ukraine in the first year of the German invasion, the collapse of Dutch, Belgian, Danish, Norwegian, Czech and French resistance under German invasion or the collapse of Italian resistance under Allied invasion.

Both Roberts (1938) and Heiden (1939)—prewar anti-Nazi writers— portray Hitler as widely revered and popular among the Germans of their day.  As Heiden (1939, p. 98) put it:  “The great masses of the people did not merely put up with National Socialism.  They welcomed it”.  And Madden (1987) presents modern-day scholarly evidence derived from archival research to show that Nazis came from all social classes in large numbers.

That Hitler’s constantly expressed love of his people and belief in their greatness should have earned him their love and belief in return is not at all surprising but it is very unfashionable to mention it.  A book recently released in Germany, however,  does make some allusion to it.  Excerpt from a review of it:

“A well-respected German historian has a radical new theory to explain a nagging question: Why did average Germans so heartily support the Nazis and Third Reich? Hitler, says Goetz Aly, was a “feel good dictator,” a leader who not only made Germans feel important, but also made sure they were well cared-for by the state.  To do so, he gave them huge tax breaks and introduced social benefits that even today anchor the society. He also ensured that even in the last days of the war not a single German went hungry. Despite near-constant warfare, never once during his 12 years in power did Hitler raise taxes for working class people. He also—in great contrast to World War I—particularly pampered soldiers and their families, offering them more than double the salaries and benefits that American and British families received. As such, most Germans saw Nazism as a “warm-hearted” protector, says Aly, author of the new book “Hitler’s People’s State: Robbery, Racial War and National Socialism” and currently a guest lecturer at the University of Frankfurt”

I am inclined to the view that Hitler’s love for his fellow Germans was sincere but, whether or not that was so, there was one huge problem with it—Germans at the start of Hitler’s political career immediately after World War I were at one-another’s throats. A civil war between the “Reds” and other Germans was a very lively possibility at the time.  How could you love a people who hated one-another?  How could you love a people who were NOT one people in important senses?  That was a major dilemma that Hitler had to solve.  And we see from Mein Kampf how he solved it:

Although he was, like most German second-rate thinkers of his time, much influenced by the ideas of   Marx and Engels,  Hitler despised the destructive and divisive “class war” aspect of Marx’s thinking and when he found that practically every preacher of Marxist class-war that he encountered in Vienna was a Jew, he began to see Jews as bent on the destruction of the German people he loved.  So the great divisions that he saw among Germans in the anarchic conditions immediately after World War I could now be explained satisfactorily:  They were the work of non-Germans—Jews.  It was Jews who were creating divisions among Germans by their preaching of class war.  Germans were only divided because they were being deceived by outsiders.  Jews were the scapegoat for German disunity just as they have been the scapegoat for many other problems throughout history.  And it may be noted that Hitler describes his conversion to antisemitism as “a great spiritual upheaval”—i.e. he abandoned his previous “cosmopolitan” (tolerant) views only with great reluctance.  It was only his romantic love of his semi-imaginary German people (Volk) that brought about the big shift in his views.

In a speech delivered at the Berlin Sportpalast  shortly after being appointed Chancellor on February, 1st, 1933, Hitler summed up his thinking about his German Volk with his characteristic passion as follows:

“During fourteen years the German nation has been at the mercy of decadent elements which have abused its confidence. During fourteen years those elements have done nothing but destroy, disintegrate and dissolve. Hence it is neither temerity nor presumption if, appearing before the nation today, I ask: German nation, give us four years time, after which you can arraign us before your tribunal and you can judge me! ....

“I cannot rid myself of my faith in my people, nor lose the conviction that this people will resuscitate again one day. I cannot be severed from the love of a people that I know to be my own. And I nourish the conviction that the hour will come when millions of men who now curse us will take their stand behind us to welcome the new Reich, our common creation born of a painful and laborious struggle and an arduous triumph—a Reich which is the symbol of greatness, honour, strength, honesty and justice.”

His love of his German people and his belief that they had been misled are certainly eloquently proclaimed there —and by that stage no-one doubted whom he saw as the “decadent elements”.

Sadly, however,  Hitler’s anti-Jewish views actually made him unremarkable in the Germany of his day The general acquiescence in them needs no great explanation beyond a reference to the general attitudes of the times.  As far as the average German knew, Hitler was just running (yawn) a Pogrom.  The Russians did it all the time, didn’t they?  It was Hitler’s national glorification and socialist policies that were really interesting and attractive.

The conventional account of the origins of Hitler’s animosity towards Jews is that his rejection from the Vienna Art Academy (in which Jews were prominent) embittered him. But that is not remotely what he says in Mein Kampf. He does not even mention the word “Jew” in connection with the Academy. He says that the Rector rejected him from the painting school because his main talent and interest was in architecture—a judgement with which Hitler emphatically agreed!

Finally, it might be noted that much of Hitler’s rhetoric about the Jews was based on exactly the same assumption that Leftists to this day use in talking about racial matters.  The affirmative action warriors of today are fanatical about proportional representation.  They constantly claim that the proportion of (say) blacks in the general population should be reflected everywhere—in every occupation and in every institution.  If there is a smaller proportion of (say) blacks in banking than there is in the general population, this is taken as proof that there is discrimination against blacks in banking.  Hitler used exactly the same argument about Jews.  As they are in America today, Jews in prewar Germany were very much overrepresented in the top echelons of German society.  So, in good Leftist fashion, Hitler took that as proof that good, ordinary Germans were being systematically excluded from such positions in society by malign Jewish machinations.  If Hitler was illogical in such thinking, so are most Leftists today.  And in fact complaints about Jewish over-representation in (say) top U.S. universities do rumble on at a low level among Leftists today.  “The more things change, the more they stay the same”.


References:

Brown, R.(1986) Social psychology (2nd. Ed.) N.Y.: Free Press. Harper
Dietrich, D.J. (1988) National renewal, anti-Semitism, and political continuity: A psychological assessment. Political Psychology 9, 385-411.
Heiden, K. (1939) One man against Europe  Harmondsworth, Mddx.: Penguin
Madden, P. (1987) The social class origins of Nazi party members as determined by occupations, 1919-1933. Social Science Quarterly  68, 263-280.
Roberts, S.H. (1938) The house that Hitler built  N.Y.: Harper. 

 

Posted by jonjayray on Friday, June 24, 2005 at 07:11 PM in National Socialism
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Posted by Geoff Beck on June 24, 2005, 07:57 PM | #

Hitler… again.

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Posted by John S Bolton on June 24, 2005, 08:47 PM | #

That is a good point, how overrepresentation comes to be seen by leftist egalitarians as proving conspiracy. The most antisemitic groups in America are the blacks and latinos, who are the targets of affirmative action programs.

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Posted by ummjack on June 24, 2005, 10:06 PM | #

Obviously this is the tack going to be taken by the next dictator - possibly Howard Dean? - against American Christians.  You can already see this rhetoric all over the “Christian left -” the idea that America is a great nation and Americans are great people, but there’s this terrible, divisive, disintegrating force preventing us from acheiving our glory - religious fundamentalism.

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Posted by Guessedworker on June 25, 2005, 03:16 AM | #

I don’t believe Hitler scapegoated Jews for German disunity or hated them for being successful, or even for practising ethnic nepotism in the pursuit of success.  Why would he be concerned that Jews were over-represented in the upper echelons of German society if their effect upon Germans was beneficial ?  It wasn’t - that was the problem.  Jews were perceived to use their power for their own historic purposes ... and these were perceived to constitute an act of ancient, unremitting ethnic warfare.

Did they not, for example, concentrate in centres of strategic importance: the centres of control of money and information and discordant political activism?  Did they not solely initiate or support political activism that furthered what was “good for Jews”?  Did that activism invariably degrade German majority interests?

We have just witnessed the long-delayed trial and prosecution of an octagenarian white American racist for the murders of two young, committed Jewish communists and a black stooge.  I do not believe that in the minds of the perpetrators those murders were acts of aggression.  The murderers were not interested in travelling to New York to bomb kosher restaurants.  They acted in the perception of their own defence.

The key to understanding anti-semitic activism among peoples of European blood was and is self-defence.  Whether there is an attack to which to respond is a matter for open debate, as is whether the nature of the response is reasonable.

Hitlerism was clearly not reasonable - not merely because of the Jews and the camps but because of its impact on neighbouring European peoples.  Under Nazism, the Germans as a people travelled so far towards self-glorification that they responded to all competing ethnic interests, Jewish or otherwise, aggressive or not, with the same arrogant, contemptuous cruelty.

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Posted by Phil on June 25, 2005, 05:28 AM | #

Guessedworker,

I agree with that 100%.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on June 25, 2005, 10:45 AM | #

And, it certainly had nothing to to the the Bolsheviks - a predominantly Jewish radical movement - overthrowing the Tsar and turning Russia into a prison camp.

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Posted by Geoff M. Beck on June 25, 2005, 11:18 AM | #

And it had nothing to do with Bela Khun/Kun/Kohn overthrowing the gov’t of Hungary(1919).

Hungary being part of the Hapsburg domains, of which Austria was then a part when she went into WWI and which Hitler served.

No, concrete reasons like this… they couldn’t explain it…. lets look for some abstract deep psychological fault.

Did his mother give him enough milk?

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Posted by Phil on June 25, 2005, 11:35 AM | #

Did his mother give him enough milk?

LOL

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Posted by Stuka on June 25, 2005, 11:47 AM | #

What’s with this Hitler Obsession? :::yawn:::

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 25, 2005, 12:21 PM | #

“Although he was, like most German second-rate thinkers of his time, much influenced by the ideas of Marx and Engels…”

“second-rate” compared to whom? Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Jacques Chirac, etc.? lol Surely he was light years ahead of that mediocre company. Can you imagine Reagan, for e.g., give frequent speeches on art and architecture to his fellow Americans? Just the thought makes me smile.

The same man who as a teenager preferred to buy tickets to the opera rather than eat? Someone who could expound on philosophy, music, religion, art, history, architecture, the classics… for hours? The same man who wrote an opera (“Wieland der Schmied”) when still an adolescent?

It makes no sense to compare politicians with writers, philosophers, poets, artists, etc. but I’d say Hitler, in terms of his wide interests and intellectual curiosity, was far above your average pol.

Here’s a good review by Matt Nuenke of a book that claims Hitler was in fact an Enlightment philosphe and a profound thinker.

http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/Birken.htm

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Posted by Phil on June 25, 2005, 12:56 PM | #

Friedrich,

There is something surreal about your Hitler-worship. I have yet to meet any Germans (and I know many) who speak this way about Hitler or the Nazis. And mind you, most of my German acquiantances are not loonie-left Liberals. Most of them are pretty conservative (and many are very conservative Bavarians). Almost all of them are completely opposed to all immigration into Germany.

But I have seen this bizarre tendency among some American “White Nationalsts” (with a modicum of German ancestry) who take on the cause of the Third Reich with a fervour not seen since the days of the Nuremberg rallies.

What gives?

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Posted by Phil on June 25, 2005, 01:06 PM | #

Friedrich,

Does it ever occur to you that open admiration for Hitler does more harm than good (leaving aside for the moment historical analysis of the Third Reich on which I am willing to concede that views would not be uniform)?

There is no shortage of “far right” American “white nationalists” who have been swinging Swasikas for decades. And they wouldnt be able to win an election for the local dog warden if they decided to contest tomorrow. It never occured to them that their Nazi symbolism may itself be the real reason why they don’t succeed.

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Posted by ben tillman on June 25, 2005, 02:33 PM | #

The murderers were not interested in travelling to New York to bomb kosher restaurants.  They acted in the perception of their own defence.

The key to understanding anti-semitic activism among peoples of European blood was and is self-defence.

Yes, defense against aggression.

From etymonline.com:

Aggression - 1611, “unprovoked attack,” from verb aggress “to approach, to start an argument” (c.1575), from Fr. aggresser, from L.L. aggressare, freq. of L. aggredi (pp. aggressus) “to approach, attack,” from ad- “to” + gradi (pp. gressus) “to step,” from gradus “a step.” Psychological sense of “hostile or destructive behavior” first recorded 1912 in A.A. Brill’s transl. of Freud. Aggressive first recorded 1824.

Throughout history, it has been the Jewish community that “approach[es]” or takes a step toward gentile communities, rather than the reverse.  It is a matter of “breaking down barriers” to entry - barriers to entry of golf clubs, universities, or entire nations. 

Heinrich Graetz, a renowned Jewish historian, discusses the longing of the Jewish community to gain entry to Britain:

http://www.saltshakers.com/lm/GraetzD.rtf

At the very time when the Jews of Poland were trodden down, slaughtered, or driven through Europe like terrified wild beasts, a land of freedom was opened, from which the Jews had been banished for more than three centuries and a half.  England, which the wise queen Elizabeth and the brave Cromwell had raised to be the first power in Europe, a position very different from that of crumbling Poland, again admitted Jews, not indeed through the great portal, yet through the back door.  But this admission was so bruited abroad, that it was like a triumph for Judaism.  The Jews of Amsterdam and Hamburg looked with longing to this island, to which they were so near, with whose merchants, shipowners, and scholars they were in connection, and which promised wide scope for the exercise of their varied abilities.  But settlement there seemed beset with insuperable obstacles.  The English episcopal church, which exercised sway over the English conscience, was even more intolerant than the popery which it persecuted,  Not grantlng freedom to Catholics and Dissenters, would it tolerate the descendants of those aspersed in the New Testament? The English people, who for centuries had seen no Jew, shared to the full the antipathy of the clergy.  To them every Jew was a Shylock, who, with hearty goodwill, would cut a Christian to pieces—a monster in human form, bearing the mark of Cain. Who would undertake to banish this strong prejudice in order to render people and rulers favorable to the descendants of Israel?

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Posted by Kubilai on June 25, 2005, 02:38 PM | #

Does it ever occur to you that open admiration for Hitler does more harm than good - Phil

You know, this subject really bothers me.  While I am an avid and bordering psycho White proponent, I am quite disturbed at the not so inconsequential numbers of youth (and old) who are Neo-nazis and Hitlerphiles.  Now, I do find Hitler and the Nazis extremely interesting from a historical perspective and love reading about WWII, though I do not pretend to be anything remotely resembling an expert on the subject.  I also am quite aware that many of the Neo-nazis have gravitated to this belief due to a lack of racial awareness by Whites in general, constant attack on Whites from all sides, the JQ issues, and the more visible presence of an ideology that supposedly champions their beliefs and viewing Hitler as a man who stood up for Whites and therefore a “hero”.  I can understand ALL that and cannot really blame them for wanting to fit into a group or family due to a paucity of avenues to turn to. 

With all that said, what I am bothered with is that Hitler damaged Whites and our interests more than any damn Liberal could.  He damaged more Europeans than Jews.  His existence allowed this crazy Marxist ideology to take hold so “there won’t be another Hitler” thanks to his insanity.  With the Marxists running the show, the likelihood of another “Hitler” grows due to this constant attack on us.  If that were to happen, that would be the end for us, collectively.  It would destroy all that is good of Whites and Europeans.  We do not NEED nor WANT another Hitler or a rise in Neo-Nazi ideology.  I say that with full sympathy of freidrich’s beliefs in racial awareness and pride, though I stand firm that if he and others that frequent his site do not come to the realization that they do more harm to our cause than good, they may be 1) bringing about our extinction sooner rather than later, 2) are possibly used as “fringe pawns” in the Marxist media machine, and 3) turn off possible awakening in people who are sympathetic to our cause though cringe at the mere site of a swastika.

The growing numbers of this ideology is very worrisome and the only thing that may temper it is racial awareness from more moderate voices that stick to two critical points: 1) Whites are a race that deserves all the respect and rights that others are freely given.  2) Whites have the absolute and unquestionable right to preserve their homelands.

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 25, 2005, 03:02 PM | #

One more think: Hitler was never influenced by Marx and Engels. However, he was influenced by Prussian or authoritarian Socialism. He translated this thesis into a “Socialism of action.” Socialism meaning comradeship, service, duty, and love of your Volk rather than the class struggle of Karl Marx.

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Posted by seelow heights on June 25, 2005, 05:31 PM | #

I think a lot of neo-nazism in the US is simply an unthinking visceral reaction to the current regime. Since the regime has defined itself as the antithesis of Hitlerism for the past seventy years those who feel justified revulsion toward that regime find AH attractive for that very reason.

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Posted by Svigor on June 25, 2005, 06:07 PM | #

But I have seen this bizarre tendency among some American “White Nationalsts” (with a modicum of German ancestry) who take on the cause of the Third Reich with a fervour not seen since the days of the Nuremberg rallies.

What gives?

That’s what I find amusing, that it’s usually non-German (especially American) WNs giving WNism a bad name with the Hitler-worship.

Hitler’s National Socialism was strictly German, so I don’t understand why non-Germans are so into it (apart from anti-social tendencies of course).

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Posted by Svigor on June 25, 2005, 06:10 PM | #

There is no shortage of “far right” American “white nationalists” who have been swinging Swasikas for decades. And they wouldnt be able to win an election for the local dog warden if they decided to contest tomorrow. It never occured to them that their Nazi symbolism may itself be the real reason why they don’t succeed.

There is no repeat no excuse for non-German WNs using Nazi symbology.  In my opinion those doing so are fifth columnists or their extended phenotypes, or simple wackos.

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Posted by Svigor on June 25, 2005, 06:33 PM | #

I think a lot of neo-nazism in the US is simply an unthinking visceral reaction to the current regime. Since the regime has defined itself as the antithesis of Hitlerism for the past seventy years those who feel justified revulsion toward that regime find AH attractive for that very reason.

I think you’re right, though I think anti-social personality plays a bigger part (not that the two are easily separable).

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Posted by Svigor on June 25, 2005, 06:38 PM | #

I’ve had a few heated discussions over the use of Nazi symbology, and the experiences have only strengthened my belief that these people are kooks who won’t listen to reason.  Even the simplest sorts of logical arguments are beyond them.

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Posted by Phil on June 25, 2005, 07:15 PM | #

I think a lot of neo-nazism in the US is simply an unthinking visceral reaction to the current regime. Since the regime has defined itself as the antithesis of Hitlerism for the past seventy years those who feel justified revulsion toward that regime find AH attractive for that very reason.

You have nailed it.

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Posted by jonjayray on June 25, 2005, 08:44 PM | #

“I think a lot of neo-nazism in the US is simply an unthinking visceral reaction to the current regime. Since the regime has defined itself as the antithesis of Hitlerism for the past seventy years those who feel justified revulsion toward that regime find AH attractive for that very reason”

There is much truth in that.  Extremism begets extremism

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Posted by jonjayray on June 25, 2005, 09:05 PM | #

For Friedrich:

“Hitler often praised Stalin in conversation. “The whole of National Socialism,” he once confessed to a confidant, was based on Marx.

http://www.quadrant.org.au/php/archive_details_list.php?article_id=1050

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Posted by jonjayray on June 25, 2005, 09:09 PM | #

““second-rate” compared to whom? Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Tony Blair”

Ronald Reagan had a degree in economics and knew the less recognized “Austrian” economists well

GWB has a Masters degree from Harvard

Blair is a clever British lawyer

Hitler never went anywhere near a university and did badly at school

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Posted by Phil on June 26, 2005, 04:34 AM | #

Ronald Reagan had a degree in economics and knew the less recognized “Austrian” economists well

GWB has a Masters degree from Harvard

Blair is a clever British lawyer

Any reason why you left Chirac out? smile

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Posted by Guessedworker on June 26, 2005, 01:57 PM | #

Because he’s French?

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 26, 2005, 05:37 PM | #

“Hitler often praised Stalin in conversation. “The whole of National Socialism,” he once confessed to a confidant, was based on Marx.

http://www.quadrant.org.au/php/archive_details_list.php?article_id=1050”

LOL is this serious? Don’t give me garbage off the Internet.

Date, source, name of the “confidant”? Aren’t you supposed to be some sort of academic? That’s just ridiculous.

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 26, 2005, 05:45 PM | #

“Does it ever occur to you that open admiration for Hitler…”

There has never been in world history any one more lied about, calumniated, caricatured, and misrepresented than Adolf Hitler and the years of the Third Reich. About 2/3 of the stuff you read is tendentious, slanted junk. Worthless. I only try to set the record straight when I can, the fact that you call that “admiration” speaks of your conditioning—and I’m not blaming you, it’s hard not to be a victim whem for close to 70 years now only one side has been allowed to speak.

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 26, 2005, 05:53 PM | #

“But I have seen this bizarre tendency among some American “White Nationalsts” (with a modicum of German ancestry) who take on the cause of the Third Reich with a fervour not seen since the days of the Nuremberg rallies.”

I’m not an American and I can’t speak for Americans. I also happen to think that Americans WNs spend too much time on Hitler, etc. Americans should reach within their own rich past and traditions and concentrate on problems facing Whites in America today, instead of focusing on a German movement of the 20’s and 30’s that arose in Germany to tackle specificly Germans problems of that era.

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 26, 2005, 05:56 PM | #

There is something surreal about your “Hitler-worship. I have yet to meet any Germans (and I know many) who speak this way about Hitler or the Nazis. And mind you, most of my German acquiantances are not loonie-left Liberals. Most of them are pretty conservative (and many are very conservative Bavarians). Almost all of them are completely opposed to all immigration into Germany.”

Quick point:

It’s rather difficult to overtly express positive thoughts on Hitler, NS years, and the like in today’s anti-German Bastardstate with its Yankee-installed judeo-democracy when doing so guarantees you a one-way ticket to a nearby prison.

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Posted by JB on June 27, 2005, 04:16 AM | #

JJRAY:
“Hitler never went anywhere near a university and did badly at school”

No PhD - clearly an idiot

JJRAY:
“As they are in America today, Jews in prewar Germany were very much overrepresented in the top echelons of German society.”

yes, more details on this page:

http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/lapin2.htm

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 27, 2005, 07:59 AM | #

The mere fact that Hitler would credit Marx and Marxism as forming the base of National Socialism is wacky in an insane kind of way. But when it comes to Hitler any lie, no matter how absurd and laughable, gets printed without a discordant note. As long as it’s liable to show him in the most unfavourable light possible of course.

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Posted by JB on June 27, 2005, 09:39 AM | #

How does John Ray explains the overrepresentation of jews in the top echelons of the american media ? A coincidence ? A sign of superior intelligence or talent ?

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4917

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4231

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Posted by Phil on June 27, 2005, 03:19 PM | #

There has never been in world history any one more lied about, calumniated, caricatured, and misrepresented than Adolf Hitler and the years of the Third Reich. About 2/3 of the stuff you read is tendentious, slanted junk. Worthless. I only try to set the record straight when I can, the fact that you call that “admiration” speaks of your conditioning—and I’m not blaming you, it’s hard not to be a victim whem for close to 70 years now only one side has been allowed to speak.

Friedrich,

Are they lies or simply moral condemnations of acts which you do not consider morally reprehensible (because you accept the idea that morality itself is a luxury - a product of Nazi nihilism) - such as the Nazi slaughter of Poles, Russians and Ukrainians (to name a few)?

I raise this objection as someone who doesn’t agree with John Ray most of the time. If you browse through this site, you should be able to gather that most commenters do not agree with John most of the time.

That said, it is an argument that I often encounter among those with Nazi sympathies - that the history of Nazi Germany is all lies. No nation’s history is without some lies - seeing the way the history of the British empire has been altered by Marxists to suit their own interests.

BUT, when you accuse the history of Nazi Germany as we know it to be based on lies, merely asserting that they were lies is not enough. You need to set out what those lies are. I understand that you could fill a book with it (in your opinion) - but even a brief summary of the main points will do (and with good links please - not internet kooks).

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Posted by Phil on June 27, 2005, 03:24 PM | #

No PhD - clearly an idiot

Deal with the arguments. Don’t engage in personal attacks.

I have warned commenters in the past about this. Without exception, anyone throwing insults at our bloggers will be banned.

We are a Free Speech forum, not a free for all. You can express disagreements in the strongest possible terms but you will not engage in insults or abuse.

If you cannot post civil comments, go blog somewhere else.

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Posted by Phil on June 27, 2005, 03:30 PM | #

There has never been in world history any one more lied about, calumniated, caricatured, and misrepresented than Adolf Hitler and the years of the Third Reich. About 2/3 of the stuff you read is tendentious, slanted junk. Worthless. I only try to set the record straight when I can, the fact that you call that “admiration” speaks of your conditioning—and I’m not blaming you, it’s hard not to be a victim whem for close to 70 years now only one side has been allowed to speak.

Even if this is true, it makes zero sense for American WNs or European Nationalists to try to save Hitler’s neck in the history books when their own political causes are fraught with all kinds of problems.

Trying to straighten the Nazi record is a lost cause and even if every Nazi evil we have read about is a lie, it is a waste of time for us to expend our energies on trying to rectify the history books when we are in such a crisis for survival in Europe.

From a political perspective, any association with Nazis is worse than suicide. It amounts to voluntary political obliteration. Anyone who doesn’t understand this is either dense or a sworn enemy of European survival.

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 27, 2005, 06:16 PM | #

LOL Phil!

First you tell me that setting the record straight is a waste of time and counterproductive and then you ask me to do just that—with good links!

smile

May I suggest some reading material:

David Leslie Hoggan’s The Forced War: Why Peaceful Revision Failed.

http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/hoggan.html

It’s out of print but every good library has it and you can get from second hand bookstores. I don’t know of a better source concerning the events that lead to W.W. II.

I’d start with the beginning, i.e. how come there was a war at all and then move to various issues surrounding the actual war.

For e.g., did you know that Russian historians increasingly believe (thanks to old secret files being opened) that Stalin wanted to attack Hitler first and that the Russian campaign (Barbarossa) was in fact a pre-emptive strike?

At any rate, if you really mean to get informed, please start with Hoggan.

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Posted by Phil on June 28, 2005, 04:14 AM | #

First you tell me that setting the record straight is a waste of time and counterproductive and then you ask me to do just that—with good links!

Because you claimed that 2/3rds of the History of Nazi Germany (as we know it) is false. If you make a claim, the onus is on you to prove it.

But as a practical matter (even assuming your argument is correct - which I don’t), what I said earlier stands. It amounts to voluntary obliteration for any European Nationalist to associate himself in the slightest way with Hitler.

We don’t live in a perfect world. We cannot right every wrong. There were wrongs committed by the opponents of Nazi Germany too. Which is why, you need to get your priotities in the right order. What matters more than what German kids in 2100 will think of Hitler, is whether Germany survives at all.

Germany can survive if there is a resurgence of strong conservative spirit and sentiment which puts an end to the immigration mess.

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 28, 2005, 06:04 AM | #

“(even assuming your argument is correct - which I don’t)”

Always keep an open mind, Phil.

Reading you I have the feeling that you haven’t done your homework at all on those issues but you’re just going along with the psychologically comfortable received wisdom you picked up here and there from conformist historians.

Additionally, I reject your contention that we shouldn’t strive for historical accuracy when the Third Reich is at play because it might ruffle some feathers. It’s precisely that type of obscurantist attitude (incidentally, I don’t think you’d be advocating ignorance as a tactic in any other field) that has prevailed for the last 60 years and has contributed to a distorted and one-sided, black and white, Manichean view of history.

Pick up Hoggan’s book, I think that should be a good and start. It’s really a mesmorizing read. Take a week or two to read it, it’s really worth it. Make that effort, challenge your pre-conceived notions. It’s really worth it.

Finally, browse some threads on The Revisionist Forum, a place where sacred cows get slaughetered on a regular basis. See holocaust promoters (and other guardians of orthodoxy) and revisionists go head to head and decide on your own - for yourself - who has science and facts on their side.

http://revforum.yourforum.org/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=b87747cb155003f356ce522f73587d53

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Posted by Phil on June 28, 2005, 02:53 PM | #

Reading you I have the feeling that you haven’t done your homework at all on those issues but you’re just going along with the psychologically comfortable received wisdom you picked up here and there from conformist historians.

I keep an open mind about everything. This includes the Holocaust on which I have expressed my own agnostic opinions before on this very forum.

Its not a matter of having a closed mind. Its a matter of contemporary politics. No political party in Europe will get a second look from the undecided voter if it identifies itself with Nazis. That’s just the way it is. You can’t change that. And we are running out of time.

I am all for revisionist historians refuting lies propounded by Marxists and their fellow travellers. And I am fine with people in our “cause” loosely defined, listening to Revisionists and being open to their arguments.

But what I wont ever agree to is having WN parties identifying with Nazis. Thats political suicide. Let the Historians do their work and good luck to them. We have to do our work.

My first concern is with the survival of Europe. I dont give a fig about revisionist History if theres no Europe left in five decades for my prospective grandchildren to grow up in. And it is my responsibility and that of all Europeans to avert such an eventuality. Openly identifying with Nazis compromises that very badly.

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Posted by srsrenner on June 28, 2005, 03:48 PM | #

There is no shortage of “far right” American “white nationalists” who have been swinging Swasikas for decades. And they wouldnt be able to win an election for the local dog warden if they decided to contest tomorrow.

We don’t call it “dog warden” here, we say “dog catcher.”

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 28, 2005, 04:16 PM | #

Phil, I agree with your last post. No one sane entering politics should openly identify with Nazis.

However, if downplaying the Jewish question and denigrating Nazis were the road to power, the American paleo-cons would have triumphed a decade ago. One only needs to read Thomas Fleming and Chronicles magazine to understand the futility of this position.

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 28, 2005, 04:31 PM | #

Anyone who accepts uncritically, and who regurgitates approvingly, the hagiography of men like FDR and Churchill, and who mindlessly repeats the court historian’s lies about WWI and WWII, and who touts the entire Anglo-American historical mythos as though it were self-evidently true, is an enemy (or at least too seriously deluded to be a friend or ally) and is part of the problem, not part of the solution.

It’s one thing to say that the Nazi-cultism is unhelpful to our cause and that “blame-the-Jews-for-everything” mentality that finds a Jew under every bed, is not going to help us much in solving our ultimate problems. This is true. Most of us here would agree with that.

It’s quite another thing entirely to then go on to say, that because of this, we have to appeal to the ignorance of the masses by pretending that the lies of the official court historians are true, and that we must denounce anyone who disagrees with these historical lies as “Nazis”, “Hitler worshippers”, etc.

There’s a middle way in which we can avoid such pointless things as Hollywood Nazi uniform fetishes, without however accepting the anti-Nazi lies we have been force fed by the media and academia. People need to be educated as to the facts, otherwise the “solutions” they will attempt to implement will be based on false assumptions about the facts, and thus, will repeatedly fail and come to naught.

Some put themselves in an entirely ridiculous bind: he wants to accept the Anglo-American-Jewish worldview about the history of the 20th century, and yet also claim to recognize the Jews as incompatible with Western culture, and thus in need of removal from our midst.

That’s absurd. Why are the Jews incompatible? You can’t just criticize Jewish behaviour internally (that is, their bad influence on our culture) without also taking note of their disasterous influence over our foreign policy. It’s too absurd for words. WNs either have to come on board all the way, take the red pill, and recognize reality for what it is, or they have to make their peace with the Jews and take the blue pill, and get on with his life as a willing tool of the System.

This is one instance where there is no third way, where People simply can’t hedge, niggle, wiggle, or finagle their way out of this dilemma. Sometimes there is a third way, sometimes there are more than two choices, where saying there are only two choices constitutes a “false dichotomy”; but this is not one of them. It’s either the red pill or the blue pill, folks; no other choices.

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Posted by Phil on June 28, 2005, 05:16 PM | #

Friedrich,

There is no way to wash over the Nazis as heroes or as reasonable men no matter how many of these lies you refute (and there are many, no doubt - starting with some elements of the Holocaust story itself).

But even if 2/3rds of what we know about Nazi Germany is proved to be false (which would be impossible), that still leaves a lot to answer for.

One doesn’t even need to go through the entire history of the Third Reich to see that. A read through Mein Kampf is enough to provide a window into it.

My family lost several members in WWII (although I was born in the 70s and never saw the carnage myself). For those in my family who fought WWII, it was a matter of national survival. A fight against an all-conquering enemy. I do not need historians to tell me what things were like in 1940. Part of that story is etched in our family history.

But anyway, you won’t convince me and I won’t convince you. So let’s leave it at that. All I can say is this: we are not a revisionist forum. We are a political forum. We are here to reach out to the undecided conservatives. The people who vote for Bush in America, for John Howard in Britain. Our goal is to convince them of the justice of our cause. That goal takes precedence over everything else. And revisionism or open advocacy in favour of the Nazis damages it badly.

We are a young blog but we have grown by leaps and bounds in a very short time. We do, though, have a long way to go yet. We are hopeful that we will reach out to enough people, through the spread of ideas and through our commitment to make a difference politically.

We have no illusions about the enormity of our task. But we are prepared for it. 

Jews:

This is a complicated question. Why have the Paleos fared badly in America? I don’t know the answer to that but what I do know is that they have done better than the National Vanguard or other similar types.

William Pierce (the founder of National vanguard) was saying all those things (that you want European Nationalists to say) since the 1960s. Where did that take him and his group? Nowhere.

Jews are the engine of Liberalism (in the US mainly) but not the soul of Liberalism. And I will tell you this: you could remove all Jewish influence from the West right now and that would solve about 20 percent of our problems (if that). Liberalism and Liberal principles have etched themselves into the soul of western man and this is a process that began a long time ago.

The Yankees needed no Jews to invade the South and murder hundreds of thousands of their own kin in the name of abolishing slavery. Why did they do it? In much of Europe in our time, Jewish influence is minimal and yet the progressive agenda marches on.

Blaming the Jews for everything (which your post suggests you disagree with too) is a sign of intellectual laziness, an unwillingness to think harder about what has gone wrong. There are no easy “solutions” here. The structure of society has been wrecked. Family is wrecked, religion is wrecked. These things cannot be easily repaired.

Even after we have succeeded in turning the immigrant tide (and let’s hope we do), we will have a long way to go before we can restore the West and reclaim what we have lost.

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Posted by Phil on June 28, 2005, 05:37 PM | #

Friedrich,

I should add one more thing:

It makes little sense for us to repeatedly say that we are not a revisionism site when John keeps churning out his own WWII material at a rate that would leave the Chinese impressed.

I have argued with John before. However, I do not have unlimited time as he does (nor do any of the other bloggers here). And all John usually does is repeat the same argument a thousand times over no matter how often it has been refuted. Basically, if you repeat something (true or false) often enough - it sticks.

I would personally not have repeated posts on Hitler or the Nazis because it is then logical for many to question the view that he supports. But it is for John to exercise his discretion in doing so as I cannot control what he writes.

But, it is an open question as to whether his intention is to maintain the reputation and focus of the blog or simply ignite a lot of controversy to enjoy it himself.

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 28, 2005, 06:06 PM | #

“My family lost several members in WWII (although I was born in the 70s and never saw the carnage myself). For those in my family who fought WWII, it was a matter of national survival. A fight against an all-conquering enemy. I do not need historians to tell me what things were like in 1940. Part of that story is etched in our family history.”

Quick note on this:

Germany didn’t war with Britain, Britain wanted war with Germany in the name of the antqiquated balance of power policy that was obsolete even then. It was Britain that gave the dissolute, arrogant sabre-rattling Polish colonels (Poland was a military dictatorship in the 20s and 30s—so much for another myth about going to war in the name of freedom and democracy) of the 20s and 30s a blank cheque in the form of guarantees against Germany without even asking them to negotiate with Germany in good faith over Danzing (as amazing as it sounds, Britain didn’t attach any conditions to those guarantees and didn’t as the Poles to be reasonable), but only against Germany and not the Soviet Union, even though Poles regarded the Soviet Union as a greater threat to their independence (that’s also why war was declared only against Germany and not the Soviet Union as well). Actually, Lord Halifax specifically enjoined the Polish colonels in the summer of ‘39 not to negotiate with Germans over Danzig (a city that was 95 % German and National Socialist even before the Reich, the WW I Allies refused the Danzigers the principle of self-determination as specified in Wislon’s 14 points, because they knew that the Danzigers wanted to stay united with the Reich). They’re was a significant anti-German element in Britain that wanted to see Germany destroyed because, inter alia, it was an economic threat to British supremacy. I’m referring to people such as Halifax, Strang, Churchill, Vansittart and a host of others. Hitler made 5 peace offers to Britain (6 if you count the Hess flight), they were all turned down by Britain. One of Hitler’s proposals was a multi-layered alliance with Britain and a willingness to militarily guarantee the British Empire with German arms (had that occurred you can bet that Britain would have her empire to this day). What I’m driving at is that you shouldn’t blame the Germans for war between Britain and Germany and for your family’s needless sacrifice. Germany didn’t want war with Britain. What did Britain get out of that unnecessary war? Financial insolvency and the loss of empire and the consequent immigration from the said empire. Half of Europe was given to Stalin at Yalta - including Poland, who’s freedom was the pretext for war in the first place.

But to paraphrase Schmitt, sometimes you don’t get to choose your enemy, the enemy does that for you.

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 28, 2005, 06:08 PM | #

“But, it is an open question as to whether his intention is to maintain the reputation and focus of the blog or simply ignite a lot of controversy to enjoy it himself.”

Point taken. I don’t come here either to argue about WW II.

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Posted by Phil on June 28, 2005, 06:27 PM | #

Friedrich,

You made excellent points. And every one of your points is valid.

However, the real question is this: could Hitler be trusted? This is I think the final issue. I am no expert on WWII history, so Ill leave it at that.

But if that is where the question must lie, British policy could not be faulted in its entirety.

But to paraphrase Schmitt, sometimes you don’t get to choose your enemy, the enemy does that for you.

I take it that you are paraphrasing Karl Schmitt? I have always wanted to read Schmitt but I never get around to it with my ridiculous working hours.

Now, after Germany had conquered all of Europe, even assuming Britain had not followed the policies you have critiqued, what was the guarantee with all of europe under his control, Hitler would not have invaded Britain? It is what the Yanks would call a “no brainer”. With a vastly superior military (and the Wehrmacht was man for man probably the finest army of all time) and all the advantages one needs, would Hitler have stopped in the name of principle? I think not.

War with Germany was, unfortunately, inevitable. But the War didn’t start in the late 1930s. It started in 1914. What we had after 1918 was a temporary ceasefire - a very tense ceasefire.

There is no way to give a clean chit to any of the warring parties. But on the balance of probabilities, why would Hitler simply take Britain as an “ally” if he had already taken all of Europe under his control? And if he had taken Britain as an “ally”, it would have been after an invasion and having installed a vichy-type regime in Britain.

Do you rule this out completely?

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Posted by friedrich braun on June 29, 2005, 02:45 AM | #

“Now, after Germany had conquered all of Europe, even assuming Britain had not followed the policies you have critiqued, what was the guarantee with all of europe under his control, Hitler would not have invaded Britain?”

Hitler wasn’t interested in conquering all of Europe or the world as you often hysterically hear. However, he was interested, as were most Germans, in revising or rectifying the unjust Versailles Diktat. Furthermore, Hitler only wanted to move East and never West. He was forced to move West when the West declared war on him. Had Britain and France didn’t see fit to be the self-appointed arbiters of Germany’s eastern borders there would’ve been no war but only a light campaign against the arrogant and sabre-rattling Polish colonels. But even that’s dubious, since without Britain’s intrigues Poland would’ve negotiated a reasonable and mutually beneficial arrangement over the German city of Danzig.

As to your hypothetical question concerning an invasion of Britain once the injustices of the Versailles Diktat were rectified. I suppose it’s possible, in the same way that it’s also possible that he might have gotten a nose ring, dyed his hair orange and joined a Kibbutz.

Again, Hitler’s expansionist policies were only aimed at the East, he never wanted Britain or the British Empire; and that’s the reason why he continuously sought peace with her. Even givig the order to Guderian et al. to hold back at Dunkirk when Germans were in hot pursuit. On numerous occasions he wanted to show his good-will toward the British, he was an Anglophile and admirer of the British Empire, he wanted the British Empire to exist in its form, he thought that it was a great thing, a stabilizing thing for the world…there’s just no evidence that he had designs on it, and the mere idea is preposterous. Nowhere does he ever state (in private and public) that he wanted Britain and her Empire. On the contrary, he viewed the prospect of foreign colonies (in Africa, Asia, etc.) as a burden and a hassle.

As to Hitler being untrustworthy, that’s also bunk. Bring up specifics, if you want, and I’ll show you that it’s Allied black propaganda at work.

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Posted by rustymason on May 11, 2006, 08:35 AM | #

“poo ... wee”  At first, I thought this was spam.  However, after careful consideration of your and JJR’s posts, I think you have given his the consideration it deserves.  Well don.

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Posted by James on November 21, 2006, 04:47 PM | #

Hitler was right!Germany was in ruins ,the economy was destroyed ,ww1 was a failure,unemployment skyrocketed and so on and so on.The people wanted answers ,they wanted the truth,they were tired of all the bullshit lies ,so Hitler told them the truth!!Im not anti-semitic but calling a pig a pig does’nt make me anti-pig.He did’nt suduce a nation of millions with his pointed tongue and brainwashing propaganda ,(like he was some kind of Jim Jones)he simply told the truth,and what he said about the Jews WAS TRUE!!They were the cause of most of Germany’s and Russia ‘s problem’s ,and America’s now.Now what he did with that information was wrong (killing the Jews,the Russians,the handicap,the mentally ill,and so on)it does’nt give you an excuse to kill millions of people and to weed out the weaker race from the stronger (everyone has the right to live).Your typical Jewish arguement is and has always been to attack the Author and not the Facts.Fact’s are if you want a damn good example of what Jewish power does to a country look at Russia ,wake up and look at America,they bitch about 6 million Jews having died in the holocost ,what about the 66 million Christians who died in Russian gulags(that are Jewish media has convienantly forgot to report on)

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Posted by unknown on January 07, 2007, 10:52 AM | #

There is no doubt that Hitler passionately hated the Jews. It was a subconscio
us need of finding scapegoats for his inner conflicts, and frustrations. Neither in the Mein Kampf nor in any Nazi literature can one find accounts of Hitler having unpleasant encounters, frictions or quarrels with Jews; it looks like that Hitler had very few personal or social contacts with Jews. In 1939 Hitler personally permitted Dr. Bloch, an Jewish physician to emigrate from Austria. Dr. Bloc was the gentle physician who provided intensive care for of his ailing mother, and on several occasions Hitler expressed his gratitude. Another Jew, who played a positive role in Hitler’s life was his World War I commanding officer, who recommended Hitler for the Iron Cross. It looks like the Jews were for Hitler and abstract depersonalized evil, an mythological evil like the devil in many religions, nobody ever experienced the devil but in eyes of the believers it is a reality.
Hitler lived in Vienna from 1907 to 1913 and those were the most difficult years of his life. Hitler was trying to become an Architect or to make himself a name in field of arts. He was twice rejected from the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts. The second rejection by the Academy was one of the most traumatic experience of his life; all his dreams were shattered. After discovering that four out of seven professors that rejected him were Jewish he blamed the Jews for his failure.
“Life in Vienna was very rough for Hitler. The winter of 1909 was a severe winter. He was at the end of his resources, his hands covered with chilblains, his stomach empty; he had been begging in the streets, but no one paid any attention to him. He had no overcoat, his feet were in bad shape, and he walked painfully and slowly.”
Hitler was living a life on the periphery of the Society, eking out a meager living by peddling of his painted postcards, living in a flophouse. In Mein Kampf Hitler wrote:
“To me Vienna, the city which, to so many, is the epitome of innocent pleasure, a festive playground for merrymakers, represents, I am sorry to say, merely the living memory of the saddest period of my life. ... Five years in which I was forced to earn a living, first as a day laborers, then as a small painter; a truly meager living which never sufficed to appease even my daily hunger. Hunger was then my faithful bodyguard. .....The uncertainty of earning my dally bread soon seemed to me one of the darkest sides of my new life.
Even today this city arouse in me nothing but the most dismal thoughts. ... At the turn of the century, Vienna was, socially speaking, on of the most backwards cities in Europe. Dazzling riches and loathsome poverty alternated sharply…. The court with its dazzling glamour attracted wealth and intelligence from the rest of the country like a magnet. ....Outside the palaces in the Ring loitered thousands of unemployed, and beneath this Via Triumphalis of old Austria dwelt the homeless in the gloom and mud of the canals.
Contrasting to his own failures he saw the successful and prospering Jews in all fields of arts and culture, business and politics.
What had to ge reckoned heavily against he Jew in my eyes was when I became acquainted with their activity in the press, art, literature, and the theater. . .And when I learned to look for the Jew in all branches of cultural and artistic life and its various manifestations, I suddenly encountered him in a place where I would least have expected to find him. . . When I recognized the Jew as the leader of the Social Democracy, the scales dropped form my eyes. A long soul struggle had reached its conclusion.
Hitler found his scapegoats.. . .
My views with regard to anti-Semitism succumbed to the passage of time, and his was my greatest transformation of all.
Gradually, I began to hate them ( the Jews)....For me this was the time of the greatest spiritual upheaval I have ever had to go through, I had ceased to be a weak-kneed cosmopolitan and become an anti-Semite.
Hitler was deeply influenced with all those anti-Semitic pamphlets with all their myth of the soil, cult for the Nordic, and the romantic longing for the simple, heroic, idealized past. In Mein Kampf Hitler wrote:
For a few hellers (pennies) I bought the first anti-Semitic pamphlets of my life. Unfortunately, they all proceed from the supposition that in principle the reader knew or even understood the Jewish question to a certain degree. Besides, the tone for the most part was such that doubts again arose in me, due in part to the dull and amazingly unscientific arguments.
In Vienna Hitler was also introduced to the Social Darwinism subscribing to the idea that nations, people, cultures and individuals are subject to the same laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Life is a perpetual struggle, between individuals and nations for existence, with the survival of the stronger and more brutal and the elimination of the weaker and less fit. In my Kampf Hitler writes:
Humanity will be compelled , in consequence of the impossibility of making the fertility of the soil keep pace with the continuous increase of population, to halt the increase in human race. ....Nature has not reserved the soil for the future possession of any particular nation; but for the people that have the force to take it and the industry to cultivate it.
Hitler developed an violent outlook on life; natural laws are based on violence, and only through violence and brutal force can social problems be solved. Democracy is the enemy of the people, because it inhibits brutality, and corrupts the character of the people. In Mein Kampf Hitler writes:
Either the world will be ruled according to the ideas of democracy, or the world will be dominated according to the natural law of force; in the latter case the people of brute force will be victorious.
For Hitler life was a constant struggle, a struggle between individuals, people, races, a struggle between Nordic culture- creators, and Semitic culture-destroyers.
In the eyes of Hitler the Jews were also responsible for all social vices including prostitution and white-slave traffic:
I recognized the Jew as the cold-hearted, shameless and calculating director of this revolting vice traffic in the scum of the big city, a cold shudder ran down my back…
In anti-Semitism Hitler found an explanation for his failures, a rationalization for his sufferings - the Jews and their conspiracy. The Jews were the single cause of his tensions and humiliation. Hitler adopted the crude simplistic outlook on life: the Jews are the source of all evil in this world. Hitler found a purpose in life, cleansing the German race from the clutches of the Jews. Hatred of the Jews became his obsession, his creed, faith and religion.
Hitler became also obsessed with the preservation of the purity of the Nordic race. The world is an arena for the ongoing struggle between Gog and Almagog, between the pure and the defiled, between the Aryans and the Jews. Hitler was a megalomaniac, a man with an exaggerated notion about himself, the slightest sign of disrespect or even an argument threw him into a fury and frenzy. Hitler was full of hatred and tensions, and this hatred had to find an outlet, an enemy, the Jews the capitalists and the Jews the communists, were a convenient enemy. By adapting a notion of superiority of the Aryan race he found an explanation for his overblown feeling of superiority.
There is no doubt that in Vienna Hitler acquired his basic outlook on life, his ideas about the importance of terror, the purity of the Nordic race and his rabbit anti-Semitism. There is no doubt that Hitler hated the Jews passionately, with a fervor approaching religious fanaticism. It was the foundation of his life outlook and philosophy. ” Hitler’s career was more closely parallel to that of a charismatic religious leader than of any conventional political leader. His feelings about the Jews in particular had the quality of a religious passion; they were dead serious convictions intimately associated with crucial events in his life, and its no exaggeration to suggest that his Jew-hatred was probably the most consistent central dimension of his chaotic personality.”
There is no doubt that Hitler’s anti-Semitism had deep psychological roots. But regardless of what psychological mechanism we ascribe to his pathological hatred, one important factor was Hitler’s lack of sexuality, the point stressed by many observers of his entourage. For example Walter Schellenberg, describes a report in Heydrich’s possession stated:
“Hitler was ruled by demonic forces driving him that he ceased to have thoughts of normal cohabitation with a woman. The ecstasies of power in every form were sufficient for him. During his speeches he worked himself up to such orgiastic frenzies that he achieved complete emotional satisfaction.
Hitler’s abnormal sexual development is an important factor in his behavior. “It is well known that Hitler’s sex life was bizarre. As a young man, he repressed direct sexuality and projected his erotic energy in grandiose fantasies. In his thirties, he was consistently attracted to young childlike women who clearly resembled his mother. The could, therefore, be more easily dominated than mature women but at the same time serve as a symbolically mother figure. Waites review of the material concerning Hitler’s relationship with women makes it quite clear that he had an intense, unusual effect on them, probably because of his odd sexual demands. ....Virtually every one of at least several young women who were close to Hitler attempted or succeeded in committing suicide.
In 1945 the Russian conducted an autopsy of Hitler’s burned body and issued a report that Hitler had a sexual deformation, having only one testicle. ” Based on a controversial Soviet medical report on Hitler’s dead body which showed that he had only one testicle. Waites argues that this condition occurs frequently enough in otherwise normal males to be generally considered a minor anomaly, although it can be a source of severe anxiety. This condition was responsible for his (Hitler’s) sexual repression and consequent inability to benefit from any normal form of direct sensuality. His intense grandiose ambitions, then, can be seen as an effort to compensate for basic feeling of inferiority and isolation. In this connection, his irrational hatred of the Jews, with its specific sexual references to Jews as seducers of innocent young women, also falls into place as a protective defense mechanism.
But regardless of the theories of the mechanism and the origins of his pathological hatred, his lack of sexuality, none of the theories explains why and how was this hatred converted into actions resulting in the horrible reality of the Holocaust. Was this the working of normal mind? Human history experienced many rulers that killed compulsively like Caligula, Nero, and they were all branded as madmen. Was Hitler rational or insane?

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Posted by James Bowery on January 07, 2007, 01:55 PM | #

How do you discriminate between “scapegoats” and “explanations” in the case of Hitler?

All this talk of his sexuality is rather tendentious.  He was an impoverished war veteran—a position in which he found himself incapable of supporting a family.  It is reasonable for a young man who cannot support a family to try to do something about it and that may include foregoing the things that lead to offspring.  You can argue with what he did about his inability to support a child but not with his lack of having sex. 

Then there is what he did about his situation—taking a public position and actions that put him in prison.  This isn’t the sort of experience that says to a single war veteran, “See, NOW you can support children!”  His career was then in motion and the rest can be seen as an extension of that.  It is quite conceivable that till his dying day, when he did get married finally, he saw himself in a public role incompatible with the responsibilities of commitment to a woman.

Finally, there is The Transfer Agreement in which he participated in the establishment of Israel and worked out the economic exchange between Israel and Germany that would allow the “eradication” of Jews from Germany without their extermination.

This appears to be an entirely rational move in peacetime.

Where Hitler appears to have gone off the tracks was his subsequent investment in military ventures rather than the building of Jewish homeland.

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Posted by taylor on March 12, 2007, 02:20 PM | #

i think hitler is a selfish jelous old man

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Posted by Lurker on March 12, 2007, 04:09 PM | #

is taylor. Do you know something we dont?

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Posted by bigboli on April 13, 2008, 10:51 PM | #

Last word on this topic:

Hitler was good for Germany but not for the rest of Europe and especially not for the Jews.  So, if a German sees Hitler as a problem, then he has been affected by the fear of witch-hunting created after WWII.  By the way “Guessedworker” has presented the real issue well.  Cheers.

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Posted by Robert ap Richard on May 13, 2008, 06:35 PM | #

unknown’s Jan 7th 2:52pm post is a marvelous capturing of all the tired old lies we’ve been hearing for years, the half-baked Freudian pseudo-“psychology” and other childish “reasoning” about this subject.  Thank you, unknown, for taking the time to write your summary.

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Posted by hinduja on July 12, 2008, 02:45 AM | #

As far known Hitler is cruel to the most of the people in Europe, but he is good at German. But i guess he is very jealous and adamant kind of person and i also know that history relates someone with Hitler very badly with those birth dates and some stuffs like that. If anyone needs to know more about it. Just let me know.

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Posted by swamibu on November 06, 2008, 01:27 PM | #

I think Hitler was gay as were many of the top nazis. They were closeted. I read a really intereting article in which there was substantial evidence about the gay leanings of nazis. In fact it was so prevelant in many parts of Germany. It just wasn’t popular to be a fem gay but a more manly gay. It was know that Ernst Rohm and many other top nazis had gay leanings. I think that Hitler and the germans and Nazis given their decadence hated Jews because they were moral and knew how to make money, something of which Germans didn’t seem to have a talent. I also think that they wanted to rob them and since they already hated them, killing them and stealing their money was a logical step for them.

As for your argument about “leftists” racism is racism. Blacks, Latinos, and other so called minorities in America but majorities in the world, are discriminated against. It is getting better but there was sytematic discrimination to keep blacks, Latinos, and other minorities out. However, thankfully, the global economy now affords these groups greater opportunities for employment, Entrepreneuralship, etc. I have seem a lot of taletless people of caucasion persuasion in positions in which they weren’t qualified but a more qualified black person or Latino, or asian is excluded. Thank God however, there are good and moral caucasions and this trend is changing with diversity initiatives.

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Posted by Janie on December 20, 2008, 06:26 PM | #

I can’t believe all the mindless racost comments I’ve read here. Hilter WAS A LOSER A NOBODY before the war that no doubt would have gone back to being a LOSER after the war was over. I believe he had such feelings if inferiority that he compesanted by bringing into action ABOMINABLE plans like his “Final Solution”. You would have to be INSANE to want to kill people just for being from an ethnic
background. 


Phil you sound like a RACIST BIGGOT!!!!

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Posted by Captainchaos on December 20, 2008, 07:15 PM | #

Janie: “I can’t believe all the mindless racost comments I’ve read here.”

I’ll bet you didn’t know that post-war 15 million Germans were ethnically cleansed from eastern Europe with 2-3 million of them dying as a result.  I’ll bet you didn’t know that the Jews were the driving force behind the Bolshevik revolution, that Jews dreamed up and ran the gulag system and that a Jew, Lazar Kaganovitch, along with his predominantly Jewish thugs presided over the intentional starvation of 7 million Ukrainians in the 1930’s. 

The Holohoax is a filthy lie that is not supported by any official German documents (as the outrages of the Judeo-Bolsheviks are supported by reams of original Soviet documents) or any scientific evidence.  There were no ‘gas chambers’ used to exterminate millions of Jews.

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Posted by Gudmund on December 20, 2008, 08:41 PM | #

given their decadence hated Jews because they were moral and knew how to make money, something of which Germans didn’t seem to have a talent.

WHA…?!

Germany went from unification in 1871 to the most powerful industrial state in the world in the space of 30 years!  Israel still cannot build a viable economy apart from the billions in aid we send each year!

Germans as a people are creative and prosperous.  Jews as a people are parasitic and harbingers of decay.

“Moral”?!?  Lay off the intoxicants before you post here again.

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Posted by Urma on January 10, 2009, 05:55 PM | #

main point, hitler started the holocaust bcuz he had some kinda beef with jews. i had to a project on him (AGHH!) and it says he thought jews were the reason for war, or the depression. anywho, he is a very bad man and we all hate him!
:D

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 10, 2009, 09:25 PM | #

There was no ©Ho£o€au$t®™, Urma.  It’s made up.  Wartime/post-war propaganda.  Never happened.  Good luck with your studies.

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Posted by tim on February 13, 2009, 11:37 PM | #

I have a few simple things to say. you sit here and say the Holocaust never happened you say “death camps” aren’t real. How the heck do you come to that conclusion. When Auschwitz is real. How can you look a jewish man in the face who lived through it? Use your mind people i mean honestly, the Holocaust happened. Yes things just like the Holocaust are happening all over the world and we as a people need to do something about it. But we dont we have people who sit around and say the shit doesnt happen OPEN YOUR EYES! view the world form my families prespective for five minutes. Look at the pictures for me just once. Go to the museum just once, and then tell me it never happened. Better yet, meet my Grandmother and tell her it didnt happen. And when she was a child she didnt watch her mother die by the hands of a German soilder in a “death camp”.

The Holocaust happened some of you people are just ignorant to the hard truth. And before i get told off or told that im the ignorant one. You all can never change my point of view. Im one of the lucky ones in the world who actually sees the truth from the bullshit poeple like you tried to feed us. The Holocaust happened plain and simple, now it is time for you all to realize it.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on February 14, 2009, 04:03 AM | #

@ Tim:  those voices standing up for historical truth and accuracy in regard to what happened to the Jews during WW II, those voices questioning this bizarre, immoral-in-the-extreme continuation of, nay reinforcement of and further entrenchment of, Allied wartime propaganda during peacetime, hold Jewish lives to be as sacred as you do and everyone else does.  Their claim is:  1) there is no evidence the Nazi government had a policy of killing all of Europe’s Jews; 2) the expression “the final solution” referred at the time to the Nazi intention to find a way to expel Europe’s Jews — to Palestine perhaps, or to Madegascar for example or, failing that, to put them all into what would be a Jewish country to be located possibly in former Polish, Russian, or Austrian Galician territory; 3) during the war Europe’s Jews in their millions were rounded up by the Nazis and put in camps where conditions eventually became horrific due to disease and starvation; 4) thousands of Jews were shot/hanged in the East as the Germans advanced and liberated Christian populations who, having endured more than two decades of Jewish (bolshevik) anti-Christian plunder, torture, rape, pillage, expropriation and forced “collectivization,” deliberate starvation, killing, and genocide, meted out summary justice to their tormentors; 5) as a result of all the above, some hundreds of thousands of innocent Jews perished (around 300,000-350,000 is the figure that I accept), none of them by being gassed; 6) there is no evidence Germany gassed Jews or anyone else in the camps; 7) there is firm scientific and documentary evidence that the gassing claim is so implausible as to be essentially ruled out; 8) the “six million” figure was a wild invention included as part of wartime and immediate post-war propaganda, an imaginary figure which seems actually to have originated with the Jewish community decades earlier, prior to the First World War, as some sort of mystical or kabalistic number of Jewish dead, possibly symbolizing a condition Jews believed had to be fulfilled before God would let them return to the land of Israel; something like that is where that invented number came from.

Tim, why have the Jews brought such heavy pressure to bear on so many governments to make the open, public airing of these matters by scholars illegal?  That behavior on the part of the Jews by itself strongly suggests proponents of the reality of the “Holocaust” have something to hide.  What could that something be?  What it certainly is is the “Holocaust” never happened as claimed in “the standard version.”

Would you like to share your thoughts on the Jewish role in communism in general and the Holodomor in particular?  Do the Jews as a group acknowledge their guilt in regard to both of those?  Are they appropriately conscience-stricken?  Do they repent as a group?  Or do they arrogantly and falsely deny any group-responsibility?

(Just curious ....)

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on February 14, 2009, 11:39 AM | #

Read this, Tim,

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3792 ,

to see what the Jews inflicted on Russia, keeping in mind this account comes to us only from 1919, just the barest beginning of the Russian people’s nightmare, the demonic thing hadn’t even gotten fully off the ground yet, hadn’t even gotten fully suited-up yet, and even for that year this account is not the thousandth, not the ten-thousandth, of the horror of it at its barest beginnings let alone the words-cannot-describe horror of it once it had really established itself in subsequent years and decades.  The Jews did all of that:  “the Bolsheviks” is another term for “the Jews,” exactly as today, let’s say, “the Neocons” is, or “the most fanatical Open-Borders advocates.”  And when the linked review goes on to talk briefly about the true underlying nature of this “anti-hate-speech” culture that’s being imposed on us today, and how it’s naught but a trial-run of an intended system of a much fuller totalitarianism, it’s talking about more Jewish handiwork:  the “hate-speech” culture now being imposed is the work of Jewry.

Do you as a Jew have any thoughts about any of this, Tim?  Does your tribe, the Jews, have anything to feel remorse for as a group? Can the blame for any genocides, any wars, any horrific oppressions and totalitarianisms, be laid at their feet?  Or are Germans solely blameworthy, when one is talking about this almost sui generis category of group-guilt?

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Posted by David on February 15, 2009, 09:40 AM | #

It always amazes me how many people there are out there who say the holocaust never
happened. In my mind these people are just trying to get a start out of people, and are just
trying to initiate an argument. Obviously it is a very sensitive subject, and it is very easy for
people to respond very emotionally. If you showed these people actual video of millions of jews being gassed and placed in the ovens, many of them would still claim the video was a falsehood as well. Some people just like to stir up human emotions.  With all the evidence we have of the holocaust, you would have to be a complete idiot not to believe it happened. I will give the people who claim the holocaust didn’t happen the benefit of the doubt and say that they are not complete idiots…. only shit disturbers.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on February 15, 2009, 10:26 AM | #

Will the Jewish overlords permit us to at least discuss the matter, David?  If not, why not?  Something so obvious cannot possibly risk being overturned by scholarly inquiry, no?  Surely, surely, surely, if it’s so clear what happened, all scholarly research can only confirm the current standard version of what happened?  Why do the Jewish overlords devote so much effort and money to making sure this won’t be discussed?  What can they be afraid of?  Is there a total Jewish lockdown on people who think the moon is made of green cheese?  If we’re allowed to discuss what the moon is made of why can’t we discuss whether the Holocau$t happened as claimed?  What are the Jewish overlords afraid of, if it’s so obvious that it happened as claimed?  Please don’t go away without answering, David — Jews generally do that (I surmise you’re Jewish):  they come by, take a few pot shots at the thread (or they post a few Negro-on-blonde-shiksa porn pics), then they disappear.  Please do answer the question and don’t vanish, David!

Now you may say there’s no law against discussing the Hollowhoax here, only in Canada and many European countries( * ).  My reply is until all European countries and Canada lift all legal restrictions on discussing it all scholarship everywhere on this issue is hindered, stunted, squelched, suffocated.  Europe, not here, is where the contrarian eye-witnesses or family members are who can be interviewed (less and less as they die off of course, exactly as the Jews would like), Europe is where the documentation is to be ferreted out and the often decisive scientific experimentation like Germar Rudolph’s conducted, Europe is where the natural scholarly talent from a cultural and pcychological point of view for investigating this issue is found.  The Jewish lockdown on any investigation of this issue in Europe stifles the discovery of the truth of what happened.  Why do the Jews want to stifle discovery of the truth in this matter?
______

( *  as well as other places the Jews have had their way with in this regard — I was surprised to see for example where Bishop Williamson is now under possibly criminal investigation in Argentina for having expressed the view that he found some scholarship on the question persuasive — the Jews have made it that you can’t say that in Argentina apparently.  Where has the Jewish tentacle not reached?  Is Iran the only place?  I’m even beginning to wonder about China, Korea, and Japan!  Is there a place on this Earth where the Jews have not intruded their Holocau$t-lockdown tentacles?)

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Posted by Dasein on February 15, 2009, 02:57 PM | #

My reply is until all European countries and Canada lift all legal restrictions on discussing it all scholarship everywhere on this issue is hindered, stunted, squelched, suffocated.

And as the Toben case recently showed, if you travel anywhere within the ever-expanding EU, you face the risk of being shipped off to a member state to face trial.  Perhaps one day all Western countries will sign extradition treaties for crimes of conscience related to Holocaust dogma.

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Posted by Damien on February 18, 2009, 07:35 AM | #

I was wondering how if Stalin & Adolf Hitler still alive until now? What will happen to all Jews

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Posted by Jojo on May 03, 2009, 07:35 AM | #

Posted by unknown on January 07, 2007, 02:52 PM | #

There is no doubt that Hitler passionately hated the Jews. It was a subconscio
us need of finding scapegoats for his inner conflicts, and frustrations.

The picture is not as simple as that, there were many generals in top position who were half jews. The question is if Hitler hated the jews so passionately then why did he employ jews/half jews?

Werner Goldberg was a half jew employed by the nazis.There are many examples like this from Nazi Germany.There was half Jew Colonel Walter Hollaender, who received Hitler’s military awards: Also the half Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg was a recipient of the military awards. There are many more such examples.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 03, 2009, 11:49 AM | #

May I suggest some reading material:  David Leslie Hoggan’s The Forced War:  Why Peaceful Revision Failed. ( http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/hoggan.html )  It’s out of print but every good library has it and you can get from second hand bookstores.  I don’t know of a better source concerning the events that lead to W.W. II.  (—Friedrich Braun, June 27, 2005, 10:16 PM)

At Amazon.com the book’s title is given as

Forced War: When Peaceful Revision Failed

by David L. Hoggan,

http://www.amazon.com/Forced-War-Peaceful-Revision-Failed/dp/0939484285/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241359112&sr=1-3 .

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Posted by Diane on July 21, 2009, 08:56 AM | #

Ive read this whole post trying to understand why white suppremists hate jews and not a single one of you, even between your little online fights have explained it. What a total waste of time

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 21, 2009, 09:17 AM | #

Have you ever considered a course in how to improve reading comprehension, Diane?

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Posted by nim on July 30, 2009, 11:29 PM | #

deleted - stupidity at work, probably quasi-governmental stupidity.

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Posted by Lurker on July 31, 2009, 12:40 AM | #

nim - I only recently became coversant with the term ‘mobying’. I’ve got a feeling you already know a bit about it.

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Posted by alex on September 21, 2009, 07:32 AM | #

frederick and cohorts,i respect your views and your thoughts,but my belief is you don’t even know what you’re saying.You’re using all those terms and trying to sound really educated,but i can’t help but laugh at you.It sounds to me like you’re trying to justify the brutal killing of several thousand jewish men,WOMEN AND CHILDREN.Your basic reason being they were more successful than the germans.Correct me if i’m wrong.Doesn’t that sound a liittle demented to you\?NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 21, 2009, 07:47 AM | #

“Correct me if i’m wrong.”  (—alex)

I correct you.  You’re wrong.

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Posted by vanessa and edson on December 08, 2009, 04:48 PM | #

i dont like it it was awful

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Posted by one hindu (pro israeli) on December 09, 2009, 07:29 AM | #

Its true that anti-jewish sentiments were prevalent throughout Europe during Hitler’s time and he capitalised on those sentiments in German minds in order to gain popularity. I still think the reason why he ordered the pogrom against jews is still a mistery. Hitler was a super racist but no one ever in the history of human civilisation did what Hitler ordered against the jews.

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Posted by Wanderer on December 09, 2009, 11:52 AM | #

one hindu:
I still think the reason why he ordered the pogrom against jews is still a mistery.

1.) There was no order to exterminate the Jews.

2.) No one was gassed.

3.) 6-million Jews dying in German-occupied Europe is a baseless figure, exaggerated by 600% or so.

4.) The million or so Jews who did perish under German auspices is a smaller proportion of dead (1/16million total World Jewry) than the Germans themselves suffered in the disastrous 1940-1949 period. Some unknown several-hundred-thousand figure of Jews also died under Soviet control, including 200,000 in Red Army uniforms (regular soldiers). During the evacuations of Jews in 1941, Stalin sent most to temporary housing in Siberia, little better than gulags, and many died in the poor conditions there, too.
—Thus the Jews lost at very most 10% of their (world) population under combined German and Soviet auspices (not more than three-fourths of which died in German-held territory of all causes [one of which was not “gassing”], including the horrible late-war starvation and disease epidemics in the camps that had been cutoff from resupply by Western bombs). The Jews also gained a national-state for the first time in 2,000 years.
—The Germans lost around 15% of their total population dead through 1949—and lost one-third of their national territory, annexed by Stalin. All Germans therein were expelled.

In sum:
Jews: 10% dead, an ethnostate gained, political carte-blanche gained.
Germans: 15% dead, one-third of territory lost (never to be returned), eternal shame (over a Lie).
All racialEuropeans on Earth: Hands thereafter bound when discussing ethnopolitical matters. Saying “Europe should stay European” too loudly is now almost enough to be jailed, or certainly at least monitored by the political police in much of the EU. And yet people believe the Jews were the great victims of the war!

5.) The fact that the myths mentioned in points #1, #2, and #3 live on [i.e., people believe “Hitler ordered 6-million Jews to be gassed”] is a remnant of wartime hysteria and the blackest of black-propaganda, which took hold in 1945 for political reasons. It continues on for the same (political) reason(s).

6.) These myths have been well-understood to be myths by those not mentally-chained by Political Correctness for many years now.

7.) To peruse the large body of scholarly work on this subject, see codoh.com or vho.org ; for a more relaxed presentation (passive video watching rather than lots of text), see holocaustdenialvideos.com

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Posted by Frank Noce on January 10, 2010, 01:54 AM | #

I believe the Jews were destine for extermination just as the American Indians were @ just a future groups such as the various indigents Indian groups in south America will be for the same reasons. They were ,and are small weak groups who are not strong enough to protect @ hold on to land,property @ positions that stronger entities covet. The new Jewish nation is in that same precarious position. They only survive at the pleasure of the united stars of America. How long that pleasure will last is questionable.

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Posted by bob on January 12, 2010, 10:36 PM | #

fuck yah hitler u did something that we love u for i hope ur in heaven god bless u

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Posted by thetruth on January 22, 2010, 06:10 PM | #

Why is this such an interesting topic?  What about the land that was taken from the Indians, the slavery of the Blacks, etc., etc., etc.  I think it’s some Jewish propaganda or another way to gain attention.  I know Jews personally.  For the most part, they are pedofiles, liars, manipulators, racists and have this ongoing “nonsense” stupid attitude of, “we’re all better than everyone else.”  Oh they moan and cry about the holocaust but wouldn’t dare become true friends with anyone outside of their race.  They’re so full of BS.  I don’t feel sorry for them.  I don’t condone anyone being killed in gas chambers but I do believe that this story may have been, “manipulated” by some Jews to gain attention, pity and personal gain.  These people (yes I DO mean all of them) are heartless, shameful, sickos.  Why did you have to break my heart and say that there wasn’t 6 million - why?  They primarily own the entertainment business.  Now ask yourself these questions:  Why do they show blonde hair/blue eyes folks as dominant? Is it because they “love” them so much???  Come on folks.  Wasn’t it the blond hair/blue eyed folks (under Hitler’s rule) that supposedly annihilated them?  Or is it their sick way to try and pay the Germans back by exploiting them?  Just look at the way they repetitiously display blond hair/blue eyes women for example: no brains, whores, big boobs, etc.  Don’t get me wrong.  The Jews are very smart, yet quite ignorant as well.  They use people for their own selfish gains.  A lot is NEVER enough for them.  I could go on and on, but you get my point.  I know some of you disagree with me, but these are my personal beliefs and I’m sticking to them!!

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Posted by thetruth on January 22, 2010, 06:17 PM | #

Oh, I forgot.  They also dominate a great deal of the legal system as well i.e. attorneys, judges (“Judge Judy and other similar disrespecting idiots like her, accountans, etc.  What fools got caught up in their treachery and gave them such authority.  Or is it that they truly are, “the chosen people” and their God is showing them favor?  If that is the case then what happened during the supposed holocaust?  Was their God mad at them at the time.  Did God cool off, get the “Jewish Guilt” and then gave them some authority in America and abroad?  What’s really going on here!!?

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Posted by thetruth on January 22, 2010, 06:39 PM | #

Just fantasize with me for a moment.  Imagine all of the Jews going back to their supposed Motherland (Israel) while leaving the United States and neighboring Countries…..................Didn’t that feel great (if only for a brief moment).  That’s just more BS.  They probably wronged the Arabs who saw them for what and who they really are which is probably why they are hated so much!!!  We don’t know the whole (or real) story.  I can only imagine.  Maybe the Arabs don’t find the pure enough to obtain the land.  So what did the Jews do??  They came to America and dirtied up our Country with their pornography, pedofilia, etc.—-  and don’t forget Gambling, etc.  They use entertainment as a form of brainwashing and manipulation.  The list goes on and on….. I hope some Jews are reading this and before responding just think about all the nights your fathers spent in your sister’s bedrooms; all the times your mothers asked for more and more and more; all the times your uncles stared at your girlfriends with lust; all the times your sisters were jealous of you “just because” they wanted all of the attention and possible future money from the parents’; all the times you thought you were having a great time and your mothers began to fake sad faces and started talking negatively; how your mothers always wanted to be the focus of attention no matter what the event; how you sit with your friends and boast about your assets while others are struggling financially; how your little pets are no longer virgins, yet there are no other pets around…I repeat, the list goes on.  Read it until it sinks in, although I’m sure that I’ve stepped on a few toes already.  Who knows maybe Hitler was molested by a Jew?  Possibly his own mother OR father - who knows?  Maybe he was molested by Jewish educators who gave him false hope yet never delivered - who knows?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 22, 2010, 07:22 PM | #

Whether or not “thetruth” is an agent provocateur (he certainly sounds as if he could be one), I vote for deleting his three comments just above.  This is an unserious individual at best; at worst an agent provocateur of some sort.

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Posted by optician on February 27, 2010, 03:12 AM | #

Jews are incompatible to any society.That is a worldwide proof.Actually Adolf Hitler’s hate came from his youth years when he lived in Vienna.In these years he actually accumulated all his views and a remarkable knowledge of how

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Posted by NeoNietzsche on February 27, 2010, 09:16 AM | #

Now, after Germany had conquered all of Europe, even assuming Britain had not followed the policies you have critiqued, what was the guarantee with all of europe under his control, Hitler would not have invaded Britain?

The “guarantee” was the fact that Britain would have been a tremendous economic and administrative LIABILITY for Germany - a f**king nightmare!  The GDR was on the edge of starvation as it was, and having to arrange (for just one example of the problem) the non-existent shipping to Britain of a non-existent food surplus was, of course, non-sensical.

The *only* reason for taking control of the island would have been to prevent its use as an aircraft carrier off the coast of the Continent.

It is what the Yanks would call a “no brainer”. With a vastly superior military (and the Wehrmacht was man for man probably the finest army of all time) and all the advantages one needs, would Hitler have stopped in the name of principle? I think not.

I think so.

Hitler was one of the most remarkable politicians in history in his faithfulness to his stated principles.  He evidently, authentically, believed in his racialist principles and the implication thereof regarding the racial fraternity of the Germanic peoples.  His control of the Continent was the doing of the Allies - Hitler had only wanted to move East - and Hitler was willing to make drastic concessions of French territory for the sake of peace with his brothers across the Channel.

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Posted by NeoNietzsche on February 27, 2010, 09:37 AM | #

@Phil

There is no way to wash over the Nazis as heroes or as reasonable men no matter how many of these lies you [FB] refute (and there are many, no doubt - starting with some elements of the Holocaust story itself).

Indeed.

Much more, by way of philosophical sophistication, would need to be adduced in order to dissolve the naive moralizing with which you would condemn Hitler and NS.

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Posted by NeoNietzsche on February 27, 2010, 09:59 AM | #

The Yankees needed no Jews to invade the South and murder hundreds of thousands of their own kin in the name of abolishing slavery. Why did they do it? In much of Europe in our time, Jewish influence is minimal and yet the progressive agenda marches on.

“Abolishing slavery” was the rationale, but not the reason for it.

Just as we are bringing “democracy” to the Middle East, today, on behalf of Judeo-fascist imperialism.

The War of Northern Aggression was ignited, rather, when it appeared that the Tariff was not going to be paid.

Thus simple imperialism was pursued, coated with sanctimony to sweeten it for the morons who had to do the suffering and dying for the Money Power.

The “progressive agenda,” however, is the *major* factor in global Judeo-Communist developments in the present day - and for which agenda our Jewish elite is naturally responsible.

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Posted by NeoNietzsche on February 27, 2010, 10:24 AM | #

@Phil

Does it ever occur to you [FB] that open admiration for Hitler does more harm than good (leaving aside for the moment historical analysis of the Third Reich on which I am willing to concede that views would not be uniform)?

There is no shortage of “far right” American “white nationalists” who have been swinging Swasikas for decades. And they wouldnt be able to win an election for the local dog warden if they decided to contest tomorrow. It never occured to them that their Nazi symbolism may itself be the real reason why they don’t succeed.

Wouldn’t matter if a *majority* of Greater Judeans were ready to vote for a *Nazi*.

Greater Judea is not a democracy - we run beauty-pageants/popularity-contests to select amongst proffered Jew-stooges with the most money behind them.  An authentic representative would be preemptively killed or otherwise excluded.

Supposedly, our one strength is in reliance upon the truth - because effective propaganda is now the monopoly of Jewry.  *Any* victimological argument, or conventional Judeo-Christian moralizing, ultimately serves *their* purposes, reinforcing an egalitarian moral universe leading to the anarchistic global *disorder* that is the implication of the socio-economic homogenization of humanity.

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Posted by NeoNietzsche on February 27, 2010, 12:06 PM | #

My first concern is with the survival of Europe. I don’t give a fig about revisionist History if there’s no Europe left in five decades for my prospective grandchildren to grow up in. And it is my responsibility and that of all Europeans to avert such an eventuality. Openly identifying with Nazis compromises that very badly.

Doesn’t matter what compromises what, in Europe.

Europeans can’t do shit for themselves.

Greater Judea fucked you up - and it’s our responsibility to undo the damage, if that’s possible.

Your open identification with Nazis might bring Greater Judean troops back into Europe, from stoogery in the Middle East, where they are going to be needed to save Europe from what will be represented as “Terrorism” - but which will be a false-flag operation.  Mark my words for reference in a future decade.

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Posted by ben tillman on February 28, 2010, 10:52 PM | #

An authentic representative would be preemptively killed or otherwise excluded.

E.g., George Wallace.  And after the elimination of Wallace, the elimination of the lesser of two evils, Nixon.

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Posted by Wandrin on March 01, 2010, 01:17 AM | #

“Hitler was wrong about the Jews but why he thought what he did is only a mystery if you want it to be”

jews will always seek to weaken the national unity of the host population out of paranoid self-interest. Whatever divisions exist within a host jews will be disproportionately involved in magnifying them. It won’t be all jews. It won’t even neccessarily be most jews. But they will always be disproportionately found in any movement or organisation that is attempting to weaken the host because they will see weakening the host as good for the security of the jewish minority. Any international minority tribe of different blood who exist inside the terriotory of a larger tribe is liable to act the same way.

Secondly, unless they are explicitly kept down by law or banished completely then they will always eventually cause economic collpase in a host. jewish greed is a symptom of their minority status paranoia. They crave security through wealth. However there is no limit - no matter how many billions they accrue they remain a paranoid minority so they always want more. Since being chased out of Europe and into the Anglosphere by Hitler they’ve managed to take complete control of the financial institutions of what used to be the richest countries in the world and they’ve driven them into the ground bringing the world economy to its knees in the process. They will always do this.

I hope the Indians, Chinese, Koreans and Japanese are taking note and working to protect themselves in advance for when the western world crumbles and the locusts swarm east.

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Posted by Miguel A. Alarcon on March 20, 2010, 02:48 AM | #

I did not see any records if Hitler Escapes though, and Australian Jews saying that they did not suffer anitsmitisim well thats bullshit I bet the Japanese has killed all the Jews in Australia and Hitler flew to Australia and the invention of nuclear weapons might say that Japan problably nuke Isreal before it became a nation 3 years before, with a bomb that could vanish the Jews.

This is nonesense they need to look more deep all of this is lies, Hitler killed Jews in Germany he flew off and went to Australia, the Japanese killed Chinese in Nanking and killed Jews in Australia while Hitler came their and planed to nuke Isreal in 1945, anyway the failed and we won the war let it all go deep and make some more research.

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Posted by Eva Ottmischerz on March 21, 2010, 10:44 PM | #

your all freaks who dont know anything you all are talking like you were there but none of you were LOSERS go outside and get some sun. ALL HEIL HITLER

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Posted by angel gold on March 23, 2010, 12:52 PM | #

i asked bout the HOLOCAUST and u gave me useless rubbish !!

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Posted by mariami on March 26, 2010, 09:35 AM | #

Holocaust is not only Hitler’s blame, I do not understand how could world let such massacre to happen, where was the world at this time.?! Why people let Hitler to exist?! I feel sorry for people who worked for Hitler and I"m proud of those who died in struggling with Adolph Hitler. This person within his cruel, inhuman activities is the world’s shame, which would never be recovered.

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Posted by Klaus Eyting on April 07, 2010, 05:50 PM | #

Seems pretty silly and quite off the mark.  It was too wordy so I really didn’t read all of it.  And I’ve read none of the comments.  I came out of Hitler’s Germany.  The answer is so much simpler.  Jewish interests controlled the banking and held the major economic power in Germany in the twenties.  There was a 1926 National Geographic article about that.  Hitler asked the Jewish interests to invest in his designs.  they declined and he took what he wanted; divesting the jewish peple of their wealth, their freedom, and ultimately their lives.  It was no more complicated than that.
  All of this speculation and offering of ignorant opinion is silly and even stupid.  You weren’t there.  You don’t know.  It was a horrible time for all of us.  It was insanity for the sake of power.  Stop speculating and trying to sound as if you know anything.  You don’t.

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Posted by Ivan on April 15, 2010, 11:26 PM | #

In order to understand why Hitler hated Jews, you don’t have to know anything about Hitler - all you need to do is to take a good look at the tribe as a WHOLE, not as individuals but as a WHOLE. They are hated because they are thieves, liars, war mongers, because they push homosexuality and every degeneracy imaginable upon societies they dwell within. They know exactly what they richly deserve for fleecing, demoralizing, and sucking blood out of gentile communities. The backlash against the Jews had happened many times in the past, and, undoubtedly, it will happen again. That’s why they have readied Department of Homeland Security, that’s why they are pushing and pushing the hate laws - they know that they deserve to be hated, and they will be hated openly and universally when the economic troubles erupt in full force.

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Posted by angel_from_hell on April 29, 2010, 07:25 AM | #

well im a fourteen year old and im doing an oral talk about hilter and this information is usefull bt if i may ask.. where on earth do i start ?? tis ahuge topic and mostly the thing i wnat to focus on was what he did to the jews,how he did it and why he did it… please reply ill take any answer at this desperate moment.. tnx smile btw peace evry1.. lol

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Posted by wake up on June 05, 2010, 01:24 AM | #

You people are all either really stupid or Jewish.

Hitler wanted to take out all the Jews because they were a cancer to society just like they are today.  Jews owned the majority of business and would build wealth and not give back to the communities…..where the hell do you think all the Jew jokes came from about hoarding money or being cheap?  Do you think these jokes were made up or just invented in the last few decades?  Jews were the cause of problems back in the days of Hitler and they are a bigger problem now.    Get rid of them and our economy will get jump start and we can save the lives of thousands of soldiers and innocent people who are targets because of some connection with those damn Jews.  Oh…..and Obama only hates the Jews who act like the classic Jew….Lazy, sneaky, and causing problems and expecting everyone to deal with it.  The same way he hates blacks that are lazy and using the minority status for a free ride….

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Posted by Stuart Tootell on June 05, 2010, 01:51 AM | #

Well said the Jewish boycott of German goods and services in the 1930s is conventionally ignored and the damage it did to an already frail German economy.

for too long the jews have traded on the urban myth of their loss of 6,000,000 lives during the Holocaust as the Jews themselves called it during the trial of Eichmann .

6,000,000 dead included all who perished not a minority group of Jews.

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Posted by hannah on June 14, 2010, 12:56 AM | #

hitler?? oh yea.. hitler the leader of national socialist german workers party thing…
I hate him seriously!!

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Posted by gemma on June 15, 2010, 02:59 AM | #

So it was only a million—though I doubt it I will accept your figure for the moment—is that a minor figure to you?  And, as for Jews being responsible for every problem of every ne’er-do-well in the whole ...world, when do you finally get mature enough to stop blaming others for your own problems.  Taking responsibility for your life is the first step in a world where one finally recognizes that all human beings have both the potential for good and for evil within them.  These are choices you make as individuals, not as religious or ethnic groups.  Some of you also seem to be ignorant of the recent genetic research that has proven we are all the progeny of a race begun on the African Continent.  How white does that make you.  There is no such thing as a pure race, except in some sick dreams such as Hitler’s.

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Posted by John Walters on June 15, 2010, 04:15 AM | #

‘as for Jews being responsible for every problem of every ne’er-do-well in the whole ...world, when do you finally get mature enough to stop blaming others for your own problems.  Taking responsibility for your life is the first step in a world’

Indeed.  So if you send the USS Liberty to the sea - take responsibility, it’s your fault that it will get destroyed, not the fault of the Israelis who will fire the bullets, missiles, and bombs.

If you leave your atom bomb blueprints where the Rosenbergs can steal them - it’s *your* fault the plans got stolen.  The thieves are blameless.

If you have kidneys, well, it’s your fault that the mayors of three New Jersey cities
Paul Zambrano, Mayor of West Long Branch, NJ
John Merla, Mayor of Keyport, NJ
Paul Coughlin, Mayor of Hazlet, NJ
will collude and conspire to steal your kidneys and sell them.  It’s *your* fault - the people who cut out your kidneys are just successful because they’re better.

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Posted by gemma on June 15, 2010, 01:14 PM | #

Should I blame all Christians for the bloodshed that was perpetrated in the name of religion?  Should I wish you dead for what was done by your ancestors?  Can you control what governments of the world do?  I never knew I was so powerful because of my Jewish heritage!!! 

I personally don’t condone violence, am I culpable for the crimes of a country I don’t live in because I share a genetic history with the majority of their population?  Can I control you and your hatred of me whom you do not even know?  My family was decimated by the Nazis and you think that is alright but shout about other crimes. 

I am one person who despite your prejudice against me, defends your right to your opinion—and I would never wish your destruction because of what you believe.  I only hope for a world where instead of violence which begets more violence, we ALL come to our senses before this beautiful planet gets blown to smithereens.  I wish for peace, and tolerance and all the things you will most likely make fun of. 

I came to this site out of curiosity and found that voice of hate that loves misery and more hate.  I don’t believe I can, nor will I try to change your minds, but I will live my life in a way that breeds peace and tolerance even more passionately now that I know the opposite is still so very alive.

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Posted by Aaron Austin on July 03, 2010, 07:24 PM | #

I didn’t realize that it was so common to hate jews in Europe at the time.  That explains why they went along with his early anti-jew stuff, but I still can’t believe that nobody objected when the death camps were made public.

“Jews were the cause of problems back in the days of Hitler and they are a bigger problem now.  Get rid of them and our economy will get jump start”

Good lord, man.  Easy!

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Posted by Angela on July 03, 2010, 09:46 PM | #

I hope the Indians, Chinese, Koreans and Japanese are taking note and working to protect themselves in advance for when the western world crumbles and the locusts swarm east.

If you take a deeply racial/evolutionary view, it’s entirely conceivable that Jews may be adapted to exploit particular host populations; notably Europeans. What form would these adaptations take? Well presumably ast least one of them is manipulation through specific verbal and literary skills. A pre-adapatation for these would have been mercantile and legal skills (judicial). It seems to be that port to the literary part of the European mind that is most vulnerable to attack. However, Chinese and similar Easterners have different processes for handling language. So actually Jews may be up against it in trying to exploit these populations. It depends how general the Jewish adapatations are. If you look at many parasites, however, the adaptations do tend to be highly specific. Further, the Chinese and similar have themselves specific targetted adaptations. They’re less generalised then Europeans in may areas.

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Posted by Wandrin on July 04, 2010, 02:58 AM | #

Angela,

It seems to be that port to the literary part of the European mind that is most vulnerable to attack. However, Chinese and similar Easterners have different processes for handling language.

Yes, agree on all points. I’d add appearance also. They’d need to be able to pass for oriental so we should see lots of jewish-oriental pairings for the offspring - adoptions also. That process might also give them an “in” on the verbal front. Although i’d imagine that could lead to an eastern vs western jew split in the future.

Strange stuff.

On balance i think they’ll hit a brick wall in China/Japan/Korea but time will tell.

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Posted by Paul on July 15, 2010, 11:13 PM | #

Enough.

Whatever the reason, no one but Hitler set a State System that had government kill people efficiently.

Whether it was Jews, which were the majority, whatever age, gypsies or anyone else that did not fit his political goal of convincing all Germans he was ridding the society of non German people.

He failed.

The US was the tool that brought him down.

God bless the USA.

Paul

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Posted by C Walledge on July 17, 2010, 03:07 AM | #

If you read the Old Testament, you’ll find that, when God gave the Jews the Promised Land, there was a nation already living there. So after a 40 year wait until there numbers rose, they invaded countries en route killing the inhabitants. They massacred the Moab nation including women and children.

Although there was anti-semitic feeling towards Jews in 1930s Germany, Jews worldwide put an embargo on German trade in 1934.

The main reason for hatred against the Jews down the centuries was usury. Christians were forbidden to lend money in exchange for interest. The big companies that went on to finance Hitler were originally Jewish owned.

I personally don’t like any religious group that advocates isolating themselves from other religious groups or non-believers. In the UK, the Salvation Army are esteemed by everyone, even atheists because of the work they do helping the homeless and destitute. In the 1950s U.S. tv shows promoted Jewish performers. Even Disney is now Jewish owned. 96% of the World media is owned by 6 Jewish companies. Entertainment agencies and film producers are nearly always Jewish. Nepotism is always unpopular to outsiders.

I’m not anti-semitic but their domination of finance worries me especially when they believe they are “the chosen people”.

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Posted by Jeff L. on August 08, 2010, 04:39 PM | #

Hitler feels the German (volk) are under represented since most Jews were very much better off because they were better.

True, Hitler ideology is for his people and in that standard even far before his time Alexander was also exulted by his people and historians today as The Great Alexander.

Why can’t Hilter be the great? Simple publicity of him and his works.

Stalin worked behind Lenin and later did what Hilter achieved twice as much but since he’s not public casted we didn’t see much of his macabre pogrom handiwork.

Mao Tze Tung is the worse of the two combined. Do your reseach how he did it.

How we judge others is really a mindset of how we are - not who we are. If we see the world as white and black we will judge others differently. Color is more vivid and transparent. If today we open the flood gate of America’s borders to foreigners our community will change abruptly. This sudden change, say, 10,000 Chinese living next to you can be very stressful because you have to deal with their present and they dominate that instance. Their success change you.

When you realized that you are now the under represented the political framework of Leftists and Rightists will shift because the hungry man is an angry man. You’re hiungry.

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Posted by Gina on September 25, 2010, 05:41 PM | #

The Jews are hated for so many reasons. The utmost being they murdered Christ. If you mention this fact to them, they will blame it on the Romans to escape persecution. Let’s also not forget that Eve tempted Adam with a little more than an apple to get him to betray God. What an evil little Jewish woman who over the years has still controlled the Jewish male with her less than visited genitals.

The Jews feel a sense of unwarranted entitlement. Most suffer from extreme delusion as they believe they are going to rule the world and everyone else is beneath them. They teach their women, if you can call them that, that they are “beautiful” and the most important in the world since birth. The sad part it, these women believe it and expect every other race to follow in their belief.

The Jewish mob in Chicago is notorious for promoting their incompetent, lonely women. They will even murder to get a man for their women.

Such is the case with Michael Rodrigo and Wendy Anderson. Michael was a successful man and after college he became a teacher. He was handsome and strong. Wendy’s mother notice Michael and wanted him to marry her little Jewess daughter Wendy. Michael declined, he was already in love with another woman and had hoped to make her his wife. Wendy and her mother were enraged, so they called out the Jewish Mob in Chicago and they descended on Mike telling him he would marry Wendy or his love interest would die.

Michael being the man he is, complied to free his love. For 30 years the little Jewess princess waited for Michael to come home and to acknowledge their marriage– he never did. One day after seeing his long lost love, he asked Wendy for a divorce. Immediately, she called the Jewish Mob in Chicago and they again descended. Wendy started a fight with Michael. Her daughter jumped on Michael’s back, Michael made an attempt to move away and Wendy was accidently struck. Wendy immediately brought charges against Michael for wife beating and the Jewish Mob made sure it stuck. He served time for a crime he never committed.

When Wendy testified at the hearing to have Michael convicted, she forgot to mention that her three children did not belong to Michael as they had never had sex and that she could not have biological children because she did not have the ability to get pregnant. Instead, she was visited by the Jewish “Impregnator” and performed a sick sexual ritual to obtain three stolen children who grew up to be as evil as she.

When he was released, he tried to take his old love out of the clutches of the Jewish Mob who had repeatedly beaten and raped her over the years–they refused to let her go. Instead, they held Michael and fractured his spine leaving him in a wheelchair permanently.

Today, Michael is in a wheelchair and Wendy has moved on to prostitution. The Jewish mob is still tormenting his love.

The Jewish Mob is notorious for threatening men who are in love with other women to get them to marry their lonely, Jewish women. They are so desperate they will threaten with murder.

This was also the case with Cahal O’Flaherty and Tracy Peterson in Chicago. Tracy wanted Cahal so the Jewish mob threatened his girlfriend and Cahal ended up marrying Tracy. Yes, they are now divorced and Tracy is miserable. I have heard Cahal went on to meet his old love and is now happy.

Chicago is loaded with little Jewish girls who are set up in law offices as fake lawyers to appease them so they can pretend they are executives to get men. The Jewish mob caters to these wicked women and they expect everyone else to do the same. When they do not, they are murdered, tortured, raped, deformed or missing.

Jews will always be outcast among nations because of their rejection of God and the “things they do”.

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Posted by Prem on October 16, 2010, 10:19 AM | #

@Gina..Seems that your views are very much affected by the facts from distant history. The history which was written not once, the history which doesn’t have a proof. The history which does not hold any significance in minds of millions of common people, who today have far more important issues about their lives than to worry about what the Jewish women were 2000 years ago. Or what the great imaginary eve wished.
Please understand, you are spreading hatred which will give birth to more hatred. People should be liked or disliked based on their deeds and not on what their ancestors did.
The Chicago story you framed was very interesting and might influence a few too. But do u think that the US laws are so weak and the US media so ignorant to not even notice it.
My aim is not to hate u for ur way of thinking but to make u realise that the humanity survives on trust. Hatred ends the trust.
This is what is happening in India… betweens the Hindus and Muslims, hatred being spread within both communities. 1000’s of innocent lives lost in past 60 years, ,just because a few people liked hating others…

If the God exists even he would be afraid to come near us… Never know when a stone would hit him or a bullet would pass through his head, claiming that he was the God of the other religion….

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Posted by oilgod on November 20, 2010, 01:11 AM | #

Hitler, Germany, the Jews and all that goes with it deserves a rest. Move on to current day problems.

Disappearing resources will drive everyone into survival groups that will have them completely forget any philosophical restrains, making the so called “holocaust” a mere preview, and a sample of wholesale genocide. from 6.5 Billion humans now to less than 1 Billion by 2100. Find your own people now and work at helping them survive the coming resource wars. Any other approach would be suicidal -

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Posted by Yippie on January 04, 2011, 08:16 AM | #

http://worldwarfilm.blogspot.com/2010/09/why-hitler-killed-jews.html

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Posted by Jake on January 05, 2011, 08:56 PM | #

Jews are more successful and prominent than other groups for the simple reason that they are superior to them.  The Jews have by far contributed more to the world in science, medicine, technology, and all intellectual fields than any other group—an extraordinary feat given the endless discrimination, enslavement, and pogroms to which they have been subjected over centuries.

Germany started both World Wars and should be ashamed of its pathetic, barbaric history of tribal war and aggression.  Far from being crippled by the Versailles Treaty, German reparations were publicized at three times the number the Allies ever intended on collecting—and six times what they actually did collect.  The Germans transferred 2% of their total national income to the Allies as reparations from 1919-31, while foreign aid amounted to 5.3% of that income.  Their was a net flow of cash in to Germany from the Allies; the victors paid the bills from the war Germany imposed on them.  The inflation in Germany from 1919 to 1923 was, like all inflation, caused by the German government itself, which massively printed money to finance the WW1 slaughter and continued doing so as a pretext to obstruct reparations.  The situation stabilized after the adoption of the Reichsmark in 1924; Chancellor Stresemann warned the Germans that the were living on “borrowed money” in 1928, before the Great Depression collapsed the world economy.  Recovery was already well underway by the time the Nazis took power.

The Nazis methodically tracked the progress of the Holocaust in thousands of reports and documents. See, for example, the Höfle Telegram sent to Adolf Eichmann in January, 1943, which reported that 1,274,166 Jews had been killed in the four Aktion Reinhard camps during 1942 alone.  Estimates of the total number of Jews killed by the Nazis range from 5.1 million from Raul Hilberg, to 5.95 million from Jacob Leschinsky. Yisrael Gutman and Robert Rozett in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust estimate 5.59–5.86 million.  A study led by Wolfgang Benz of the Technical University of Berlin suggests 5.29–6.2 million.  The main sources for these statistics are comparisons of prewar and postwar censuses and population estimates, and Nazi documentation on deportations and murders.

This is not the work of a rational actor:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/Mass_Grave_Bergen_Belsen_May_1945.jpg

The ignorant, barely literate fringe deniers that post here are the filth of the world.  The names and countries of orgin for 3 million of the total 5.8 million Jews killed have already been established and documentation on this matter is still being conducted.  Internal Nazi documents repeatedly refer to the gas chambers and the death of millions of Jews.  Not even the Nazis at Nuremberg dared to simply deny what they had done!  It is an irrefutable demographic fact that simply cannot be contested—several million Jews disappeared at the hands of the Nazis.  No calculation of excess mortality ever conducted has ever or could ever reach a different conclusion.  There are many millions of Jews who went “missing,” and no reasonable person can evade this hard, census-based fact.  Nearly 80% of the Jews under Nazi control were killed.  I have met Holocaust survivors.  As one survivor sardonically remarked, glancing at his camp serial number, “I am a survivor of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century.”

The Nazis killed 16% of the population of Poland.  In total, they were responsible for the deaths of 30 million people.

Louis Rapoport (Stalin’s War Against The Jews: The Doctors’ Plot And The Soviet Solution, New York: Free Press, 1990) has written a detailed account of the Stalin’s actions against the Jews. He states that after the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact “one of Stalin’s first gifts to the Nazis was to turn over some 600 German Communists, most of them Jews, to the Gestapo at Brest-Litovsk in German-occupied Poland.” He continues, “Beginning in February 1940 in the Soviet-occupied zone of Poland, Beria’s NKVD arrested and deported about one million Polish refugees, half of them Jews. Many died en route to Siberia.”  In relation to the 1953 Doctors’ Plot, Rapoport states that the plan was to first execute the doctors under the fictitious charges and “then ‘incidents’ would follow: attacks on Jews orchestrated by the secret police, the publication of the statement by the prominent Jews, and a flood of other letters demanding that action be taken. A three­stage program of genocide would be followed. First, almost all Soviet Jews… would be shipped to camps east of the Urals… Second, the authorities would set Jewish leaders at all levels against one another… Also the MGB [Secret Police] would start killing the elites in the camps, just as they had killed the Yiddish writers … the previous year. The… final stage would be to ‘get rid of the rest.’”

It is chilling to read the deniers of these facts hysterically wonder why the hundreds of scholarly works on the Nazis dismiss their incoherent conspiracy theories and fail to give their blog posts “due weight” in the “controversy” over the destruction of the European Jews.  More incredible is the unbelievable assertion that Israel, of all countries, has failed to develop or modernize rapidly enough and is reliant on US aid!  (The history of Israel’s extraorinary success is nothing short of a miracle.)  Equally delusional are the claims that England was an aggressive, expansionist power while Nazi Germany was diligently committed to appeasement with London.  When whites are more successful than blacks, no one here suggests a “white conspiracy,” but when the consensus of scholars reflects the demographic facts of reality, it is seen as a “Jewish plot.”  The world is not fundamentally unjust—the Jews outperform you, not because the odds favor them, but in spite of the odds against them, and because they are by far the most evolved ethnic group on the earth.

It’s difficult to fathom the enormity of Jewish achievement in the face of great odds, and nearly impossible to conceive of the depths of Jewish suffering at the hands of the Nazis, so it is easy for rednecks like these vulgar fools to dismiss it as “impossible.”  Look on Wikipedia at the lists of famous Jews by country, and then at the 3 million names so far established by Holocaust researchers, and imagine what those 5.8 million Jews would have accomplished had Hitler not exterminated them for no reason.

One last observation:  We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaraunt.

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Posted by Captainchaos on January 06, 2011, 12:29 AM | #

Jake,

Jews are more successful and prominent than other groups for the simple reason that they are superior to them.

In America European-American individuals with IQ 130+ outnumber Jewish individuals with IQ 130+ 7:1.  Yet Jews typically make up 25-30% of undergrads at Harvard.  Let us take the latter as representative of Jewish “success” and ask, Is this due simply to superior Jewish intellect and work ethic?  No, clearly not.  The numbers just don’t ‘add up’.  So what accounts for this obvious Jewish over representation out of all proportion to actual Jewish talents?  Ethnic nepotism.

an extraordinary feat given the endless discrimination, enslavement, and pogroms to which they have been subjected over centuries.

It would seem that they would not have been able to achieve said were their history nothing but a tale of woe.  Jews emerged from the role of tax-collecting middle-men for the European aristocracy to emancipation and great collective success in a European context.  Would this have been imaginable under Islam or in sub-Saharan Africa?  Clearly not.  Your overly lachrymose rendition of Jewish history vis-a-vis Europeans wouldn’t be an attempt to induce guilt in those of European descent to the effect that Europeans take a dim view of looking after their own interests yet find moral redemption in serving Jewish interests, would it?  Perhaps you don’t think of it that way consciously, yet it could reasonably be interpreted as such.

Estimates of the total number of Jews killed by the Nazis range from 5.1 million from Raul Hilberg, to 5.95 million from Jacob Leschinsky.

The official death toll at Auschwitz has been reduced from 4 million to 1.1 million.  If these 2.9 million victims were not killed at Auschwitz then where were they killed?  Funny how it all takes on the aspect of a shell game, no?

The ignorant, barely literate fringe deniers that post here are the filth of the world.

Wouldn’t you say that Jew Lazar Kaganovitch and his predominantly Jewish NKVD secret policemen who oversaw the systematic starvation of 6 million Ukrainians are “the filth of the world”?  But we shouldn’t concern ourselves with that, should we?  Jews are after all “superior” and their lives are therefore more precious than those of the ‘goyim’.  Jews: only ever angelic in their “superiority”, ever the victims and never the victimizers.

More incredible is the unbelievable assertion that Israel, of all countries, has failed to develop or modernize rapidly enough and is reliant on US aid!

 

Then I take it Israel can do without this aid.

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Posted by Hail on January 06, 2011, 03:56 AM | #

Jake wrote:
1,274,166 Jews had been killed in the four Aktion Reinhard camps during 1942 alone

2-minute video on excavations at the Treblinka site (Treblinka was one of the “Aktion Reinhard” camps).

See also: “One Third of the Holocaust

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Posted by MOB on January 06, 2011, 07:41 AM | #

Hitler and the Germans hated the Jews for the same reason that all haters of Jews hate them

Jews take over.

It’s that simple.

It has always mystified me when people ask, “how could a nation that was at the very apex of achievement in all areas of accomplishment behave so barbarously toward the Jews?”

How simple does it get?  IIf Germany were a mediocre country with mediocre dreams and mediocre achievement, the termite-like Jewish takeover with its inevitable cheapening of the culture and manipulation of all areas affecting personal and national financial stability would not have caused the extreme pain, anger and fear of loss that it did cause.

Jewish values and German values were and remain diametrically opposed.

Today the lands in which the Jew has taken over are cultural cesspools and financial plantations—the work of Jews, wherever they gain a foothold.

Jews are only “superior” to those who share their values.  I long for a Jew-free environment.  I long for Jews to be exposed, punished, and exorcised.

The Jews and their lies.  By way of deception.  Nothing has changed, nor will it ever change.

Jews take over.  And having taken over, they impose their own inferior values on the conquered land.  Life becomes less worth living.  Jews smear shit on Beauty.  Jews kill spirits.

I think this is why Hitler hated Jews.

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Posted by danielj on January 06, 2011, 09:39 AM | #

Jews emerged from the role of tax-collecting middle-men for the European aristocracy to emancipation and great collective success in a European context.

And, ironically, considering their current relationship to war as protesters-in-chief, they were also solitary and spectacularly profitable arms dealers during intra-European conflict.

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Posted by John on January 06, 2011, 02:37 PM | #

“That part of the world under Hitler’s control in general willingly assisted in rounding up Jews while the rest of the world refused to take Jewish refugees who tried to escape…”

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I said, there they are, right over there—
What took you guys so long?

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Posted by Jake on January 06, 2011, 06:34 PM | #

The “official” death count of Auschwitz as worked out by investigators from all sides after the war using census figures, train transportation lists, personal accounts and other figures kept by the Nazi regime was a figure of 1-2 million which after 60 years is still considered fairly accurate.

While Poland was part of the Communist regime a plaque was erected at Auschwitz stating that 4 million victims of the Nazis were killed there. This was part of an ongoing propaganda campaign to show what the Communists were fighting against. This figure of 4 million was never used to estimate the total number of people killed in the Holocaust.

Since the collapse of Communism the plaque has been removed and replaced with one stating the correct figures.

Unfortunately Holocaust deniers have, as always, seized on anything they can to try and “prove” their beliefs.

More significant is the assumption that killing “only” 3 million Jews would be unobjectionable, but 6 million is beyond the pale.

the systematic starvation of 6 million Ukrainians…

As denial of the Holocaust is nonfactual, another common strategy of historical revisionism is to use relativism by comparing it to other genocides.

No serious historian questions that the Holocaust took place.  Holocaust survivor and Nobel Prize winner Elie Wiesel calls the Holocaust “the most documented tragedy in recorded history. Never before has a tragedy elicited so much witness from the killers, from the victims and even from the bystanders—millions of pieces here in the museum what you have, all other museums, archives in the thousands, in the millions.”

Critics of Holocaust denial also include members of the Auschwitz SS. Camp physician and SS-Untersturmführer Hans Münch considered the facts of Auschwitz “so firmly determined that one cannot have any doubt at all,” and described those who negate what happened at the camp as “malevolent” people who have “personal interest to want to bury in silence things that cannot be buried in silence.”  Zyklon-B handler and SS-Oberscharführer Josef Klehr has said that anyone who maintains that nobody was gassed at Auschwitz must be “crazy or on the wrong”.  Hearing about Holocaust denial compelled former SS-Rottenführer Oskar Gröning to publicly speak about what he witnessed at Auschwitz, and denounce Holocaust deniers, stating:  “I would like you to believe me. I saw the gas chambers. I saw the crematoria. I saw the open fires. I was on the ramp when the selections took place. I would like you to believe that these atrocities happened because I was there.”

Many deniers question the death toll of the Holocaust, arguing that the numbers are highly inflated.  Simple demographic evidence effectively rebuts this argument. Deniers claim that many Jews simply emigrated elsewhere, but there are no corresponding population increases in other countries that would support this argument. While it is possible that hundreds, or even thousands of people could “fall through the cracks,” that still leaves several million Jews unaccounted for.

Jews emerged from the role of tax-collecting middle-men for the European aristocracy to emancipation and great collective success in a European context. Would this have been imaginable under Islam or in sub-Saharan Africa?  Clearly not.

On the one hand, I agree 100% with that astute observation, but I puzzle over your misrepresentation of my views.  I never used the word EUROPEAN when describing the historical persecution of Jews.

Hail, your propaganda video was so over-the-top, it would have been hilarious, if it wasn’t for the somber nature of this reality.

I long for a Jew-free environment.  I long for Jews to be exposed, punished, and exorcised.

Note that Jews would never utter such an obscenity about any group, even Germans or Moslems.  People like you should be shot on the spot.

The sad truth is that it would be just as easy to construct a “compelling” narrative “proving” that the famine in Ukraine was a hoax, as the far-left has been trying to do for decades.

In the end, the rightists who post here are the ultimate enemies of capitalism.  Unable to compete with Jews in a market devoid of coercion, they advocate the use of force to enslave them, claiming self-defense against an imaginary conspiracy based on the Protocols.  Your struggle is a struggle against reason, a desire to make reality mold itself to your will through sheer belief, an overly emotionalist campaign against justice itself.  Obviously, no facts, no arguments, no amount of evidence could ever convince our “open-minded” dissenters that they are mistaken.

One last point:  Israel, per capita, is the most creative and innovative country on the face of the earth.

Since 1991, venture capital in Israel has increased sixtyfold. Israel has become an extension of Silicon Valley that is excelling its source. It is a paragon of defense-technology innovation. In 2008, a study by Deloitte and Touche showed that Israel has become the world’s chief fount of innovation outside the U.S. in such fields as microchips, telecom, software, biotech, medical devices, and cleantech. Only Germany is close, and they are ten times larger.

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Posted by Hail on January 06, 2011, 09:54 PM | #

Jake wrote:
Jews would never utter such an obscenity about any group, even Germans or Moslems.

“Every Jew, somewhere in his being, should set apart a zone of hate—healthy, virile hate—for what the German personifies and for what persists in the German.” 

— High Priest of Holocaustianity Elie Wiesel, in his book Legends of Our Time.

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Posted by Ivan on January 07, 2011, 12:01 AM | #

It was the other way around - it was the Jew who hated Hitler back then and, to this day, he hates everything related to Hitler. Hitler simply wanted to get rid of the parasites. Taking into account what they did to Germany, could you blame the Führer?

Hate is a manifestation of weakness. Hate is a corrosive feeling of powerlessness confronted by powerful enemy. Hate is a humiliating feeling of inferiority in the presence of a superior being. That’s why Niggers hate Whites.

Hate is an uncontrollable feeling of envy by the immoral and wicked in the presence of the wholesome and noble. That’s why Jews hate goyim.

Hate is unhealthy feeling of small confronted by big. Hate is a lot of little men and the Jews. Hitler was neither a Jew nor a little man.

You do not lionize the bastards by hating them, you do not hate your mortal enemies - you simply destroy them without mercy.

Here is a guy who didn’t talk in terms of hate, but he didn’t shy away from expressing himself in no uncertain terms. He didn’t mince his words as of what should be done with the bastards:

Arbeit Macht Frei: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D7APJ4dr78&NR=1

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Posted by Captainchaos on January 07, 2011, 03:36 AM | #

Jake,

I will have to acknowledge your more comprehensive grasp of the traditional Holocaust narrative.  It is not something I have taken the time, nor frankly have the inclination at present, to look into.  That said, I see no reason it cannot and should not be questioned.  It is not cause for or symptom of a pathology if one wishes to or does do this; and to the contrary of the quotes you so insidiously pepper your commentary with to leave just that impression.  Think about it: isn’t it absurd on its face that those who deny Jews were murdered because they were Jews, or question the number of those murdered, are in the dark corners of their own hearts genocidal Jew-haters?  That they wish to clear the names of their co-ethnics of that which is shameful is evidence that they in actuality think what their co-ethnics are alleged to have done is not shameful?  Then why bother to attempt this exculpation at all if they themselves believe the extermination of Jews is not shameful?  Well, I suppose the straight forward answer is that they, suffering some alleged deep-seated pathology as you so slyly insinuate, do not think the extermination of Jews is shameful but realize the majority of their co-ethnics DO consider said shameful.  So what, assuming this is their mind-set, are deniers of the Holocaust trying to achieve?  Merely to lift the weight of this guilt from the shoulders of their co-ethics in the recognition that it is indeed injurious to their co-ethnic?  Or is it the more sinister motivation of attempting to lull their co-ethnics asleep that they may once again gain power and exterminate the Jews?  If the latter, it would seem that their co-ethnics are of a better moral fiber than they in that their co-ethnics would never be taken in by an explicit call to genocide.  That being the case, why then this obvious need on your part, and that of your own co-ethnics, to wield the traditional Holocaust narrative as a bludgeon with which you beat into submission any last expression of ethnic assertiveness on the part of not only Germans but indeed all those of European descent?  Is it because you truly believe that also within most Europeans lurks the spirit of genocidalism?  It is here we reach the true crux of the matter, Jake.  If you do hold such a low and fearful opinion of Europeans then why in the name of “G-d” would you, or any of your own co-ethnics, wish to live amongst Europeans?  Are you bloody mad?  I don’t think you are bloody mad.  I hope not.  So why then this incessant guilt-mongering on your part?  What are you, and your own co-ethnics, driving at?  The answer that suggests itself is that you wish to cow Europeans as consistent with perceived Jewish interests.  And that now in a time when, present trends persisting, European Man will pass from the pages of history.  You should fully realize, Jake, that such a tack is itself genocidal in its effect, if not intent.  I do not think you wish to be cast in the role of a genocidalist, Jake.  I do not wish to believe you are bloody mad.  But are you?

It would certainly behoove you, Jake, as the forthright man you undoubtedly are, to respond directly to the above as we both of us know (yes, you do know it too) this is not simply a matter of a desire for historical accuracy.

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Posted by Silver on January 07, 2011, 03:57 AM | #

Jake,

I hope you have another strategy up your sleeve when hysterically protesting “too much” in the hopes of frightening people into agreeing you stops working so well. 

As one survivor sardonically remarked, glancing at his camp serial number, “I am a survivor of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century.”  Oh I’m just sure that happened— they’re so well known for their resigned, sardonic reactions to accusations of mendacity, those Holocaust Survivors (especially the ones who played with wolves while hiding under the floorboards, or however it goes).  This one gets bonus points for managing to work in a reference to one of the pioneering works of holocaust skepticism.

Such a pity that for all your brilliance you have to resort to such rank bullshit, because these “judeoskeptic” types—you’ve seen them here, like “MOB”—are the infernal demon assholes of your and my worst fears.  But you don’t beat them by providing more grist for their mill.

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Posted by Captainchaos on January 07, 2011, 04:41 AM | #

Silver,

I think Jake is too shrewd and self-confident an ethic customer to be shaken with that level of discourse.  Something perhaps you would have realized were you Nordic.  (Just kidding.  Well, sort of.)  Let us see if he has the courage which reflects his self-conception by his responding directly to me as I have asked him.  I’m not holding my breath.  But who knows, I may be pleasantly surprised.

The bottom line: Either he supports the right of European-derived peoples to exist or not.  And if not, then he is every bit the genocidalist in spirit he believes the Nazis to have been in fact.  That is the one, true and only subtext here.  I have merely brought it to the foreground.  Ain’t (sorry, I’m a simple “redneck”, I couldn’t resist) that right, Jake?

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Posted by Al Ross on January 07, 2011, 05:19 AM | #

The Holohoax nonsense matters because if that filthy Jewish mythology continues to infect our people the legitimacy of our judenfrei aspirations will for ever be pathologised.

It doesn’t really matter which of our additional racial enemies the Jews wish to import via Third World immigration. They will all have to be dealt with sooner or later and this will require Hitlerian resolve, like it or not.

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Posted by Jake on January 07, 2011, 09:27 PM | #

Captainchaos,

You have a very conspiracy-minded worldview, and this reflected in your recent post.

I did not come here looking for a racist website.  I was just intrigued by the parts of Mein Kampf in which Hitler talks about his earlier sympathy for the Jewish people, as well as accounts of his friendship with several Jews even during his years at Vienna, and happened to stumble upon it while researching what made Hitler anti-Semitic.

Now, I do not expect much from this site after having read it’s genocide denial manifesto (http://wiki.majorityrights.com/holocaust), which claims that, among other reasons, the Holocaust could not have happened because:  The Nazis forced the Jews to wear uniforms (“why bother, if you’re exterminating them?” it seriously asks), President Carter supported national research into it, one encyclopedia from decades ago allegedly did not use the phrase Holocaust to describe it, Hollywood promotes it, and “the Jews won’t allow an investigation” of it—before equating Auschwitz with Dresden, recycling Nazi propaganda about the Jewish “stab in the back,” and blaming Jewish deaths in the camps on Allied bombing.

Clearly, the people who wrote that denial tract are vulgar buffoons, and it remains an embarrassment to whatever credibility this site may have had left.  Clearly, majorityrights.com is home to many anti-intellectual European Jew-haters (and not as many Americans, who have been vaccinated against genocidal anti-Semitism).  Outside of you and the author of the above article, I’ve seen little intelligent comment on these pages.

But, as I’ve hinted already, I am a racist.  I have no doubts whatever that the natural order of things should be undisturbed, that “diversity” is an unnatural phenomenon.  Of course whites are more civilized and intelligent than blacks; black men have raped nearly half a million white American women in the past decade, while white men have raped less than 100 black American women during that time.

The racism of this site is jingoistic, emotionalist, and pseudo-intellectual in nature.  Jew-hatred itself is the number one hatred of pseudo-intellectuals—it is, as Christopher Hitchens observes, an unwarranted “collective hallucination” more than a form of racism.

The intellectually curious naturally see through the absurd claim that races do not exist in the human species; even the deniers know, recognize, and act on the premise that they do.  However, scientific analysis cannot support the claim that whites or Germans are the most evolved ethnic group.  Jews are the most evolved, with an average IQ of 115.  They are followed by the East Asians (with an average IQ of 110) and the gentile whites (with an average IQ of 100).

The Africans are scarcely members of the same species.  Some experts have argued for four human races:  three different African races, and everybody else.  One ethnic group in the Congo has an average IQ of 50.

I’m basically a mild and tolerant racist like John Derbyshire.  I’m not a white supremacist, but of course I support the right of white people to exist.  I’d even support the British National Party if it wasn’t anti-Semitic.

You read far too deeply into my motivation for not denying the Nazi Holocaust.  My reason is much simpler:  It happened, and denying that fact is like killing its victims twice.

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Posted by jamesUK on January 07, 2011, 10:41 PM | #

@Ivan

Don’t tell me you like that big shit Hitler who through his BS wars wanted to create a German/British empire in Europe in the process killing millions of white people which he outlined in his unpublished/untitled foreign policy book which was discovered in the German archives in the US and published in Germany in 1958 then internationally in 2003.

“There are a number of similarities and differences between Zweites Buch and Mein Kampf. As in Mein Kampf, Hitler declared that the Jews were his eternal and most dangerous opponents. As in Mein Kampf, Hitler outlined what the German historian Andreas Hillgruber has called his Stufenplan (“stage-by-stage plan”). Hitler himself never used the term Stufenplan, which was coined by Hillgruber in his 1965 book Hitlers Strategie. Briefly, the Stufenplan called for three stages. In the first stage, there would be a massive military build-up, the overthrow of the “shackles” of the Treaty of Versailles, and the forming of alliances with Fascist Italy and the British Empire. The second stage would be a series of fast, “lightning wars” in conjunction with Italy and Britain against France and whichever of her allies in Eastern Europe — such as Czechoslovakia, Poland, Romania and Yugoslavia — chose to stand by her. The third stage would be a war to obliterate what Hitler considered to be the “Judeo-Bolshevik” regime in the Soviet Union.

In contrast to Mein Kampf, in Zweites Buch Hitler added a fourth stage to the Stufenplan. He announced that, around 1980, the final struggle for world domination would take place between the United States and the now Greater Germany allied with the British Empire. Zweites Buch also offers a different perspective on the United States than that outlined in Mein Kampf. In the latter, Hitler declared that Germany’s most dangerous opponent on the international scene was the Soviet Union; In Zweites Buch, Hitler declared that for immediate purposes, the Soviet Union was still the most dangerous opponent, but that in the long-term, the most dangerous potential opponent was the United States.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/3603289/Revealed-the-amazing-story-behind-Hitlers-second-book.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler’s_Second_Book:_The_Unpublished_Sequel_to_Mein_Kampf

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Posted by jamesUK on January 07, 2011, 11:11 PM | #

@Jake

”The sad truth is that it would be just as easy to construct a “compelling” narrative “proving” that the famine in Ukraine was a hoax, as the far-left has been trying to do for decades”

But the Holomodor propaganda hoax was debunked at the time itself based on Nazi propaganda and that of fascist media baron William Randolph Hearst and was regarded as such by every mainstream historian until the 1980’s when it was resurrected during Reagans anti-Communist campaign based on the book Harvest of Sorrows by Robert Conquest who worked for British Foreign Offices post WW2 anti-Communist propaganda unit IRD and financed by Ukrainian nationalist groups in Canada and the US to finance the “documentary” Harvest of Despair.

Given the overwhelming evidence that debunk the engineered famine narrative like the fact that most killed were in the Russian East not nationalist west, 6 million is a high estimate that does not take into account decline in birth rates, large outbreaks of disease, periodic famines up to 32, that the pictures used in Holomodor propaganda are from the Volga famine and that it effected other regions of the USSR Kazakhstan, Siberia and the Caucasus and not limited to Ukraine just to name a few facts. 

And it is not leftists that are doing serious research by serious a-political Soviet historians with no political affiliation or institutions.

Even Robert Conquest now has retracted his view that it was engineered.

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Posted by Ivan on January 07, 2011, 11:44 PM | #

The bottom line: Either he supports the right of European-derived peoples to exist or not.

Captainchaos,

Please forgive my stupidity: what is the meaning of the above quote? I will narrow my question even further: what does the right of European-derived peoples to exist mean?

‘Right’ is a legal term which means something that is protected and guarantied by the law. Which law guaranties, or could even guarantee, the right of European-derived peoples, or any people for that matter, to exist. If such law and executive body that guaranties the rights set in that law exist, why do we have to have armies? Why every country and every nation on Earth from time immemorial has been trying to have as much armament as they can afford?

Did the American Indians have the right to exist? If so, why did they disappear? When the total human population shoots over the threshold that can be supported by the limited resources of planet Earth, what happens to that law? Do we come with a new law that stipulates who has the right to exist and who has not? And if that law says that I do not have the right, why would I agree with such a law?

What is the significance of knowing whether Jake supports the right of European-derived peoples to exist or not? What would he, or even could he, do to support such a right? Have you ever met, or even heard of, a person who would say: No, I don’t think European-derived peoples have the right to exist?

And if Jake happens to believe that he and his kin would be better off without European-derived peoples around, why would you expect him to say so in your face, instead of quitely doing everything he possibly could to make the threat, real or perceived, go away? Wouldn’t that be the height of stupidity for Jake to do so?

Do you catch my drift, Captainchaos?

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Posted by Hail on January 07, 2011, 11:51 PM | #

Jake wrote:
I’d even support the British National Party if it wasn’t anti-Semitic.

LOL.

Jake?

That position, it just doesn’t make any sense. For more than one reason.de

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Posted by Ivan on January 07, 2011, 11:58 PM | #

Don’t tell me you like that big shit Hitler

Well, jamesUK, it would be very strange, to say the least, for me to like somebody who wanted to take the land from the people who brought me to life.

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Posted by Ivan on January 08, 2011, 12:09 AM | #

I’d even support the British National Party if it wasn’t anti-Semitic.

Being anti-Semitic would be the best part of the BNP - to the degree it is anti-Semitic, which I am not quite sure. If it is anti-Semitic indeed, the party is not doing good enough job communicating it to the public.

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Posted by Jake on January 08, 2011, 01:05 AM | #

This is jaw-dropping:  Not only are there Holocaust deniers here, it turns out there are Holodomor deniers as well!

Far from changing his view, Conquest declared “I told you so!” after the Soviet archives were opened.  Our Stalinist friend here actually invokes the Soviet starvation of one-third of the population of Kazakhstan as evidence that they had no genocidal intent.  Further, he notes that Ukraine had experienced famine in the twenties as well.

http://www.ukrweekly.com/old/archive/1988/458814.shtml

“The famine was concentrated in the rich grain-growing provinces of southern Ukraine, an area inhabited by about a third of the republic’s 26 million citizens. It affected both the rural and the urban population. Most of the victims were Ukrainians; national minorities like Germans, Jews and Russians also suffered. Between the fall of 1921 and the spring of 1923, 1.5 million to 2 million people died of starvation and due to accompanying epidemics.

Saving this population would have required no more than half a million tons of grain or equivalent foodstuffs per year. During the two years of the famine, the Bolshevik government took from Ukrainian peasants many times that amount. Most of the confiscated grain was shipped abroad: the first year to Russia, and the second to Russia and the West. Ukraine was also obliged to send additional “voluntary” famine relief to the Volga, and to feed some 2 million people who came from Russia as refugees, soldiers and administrators.

At the time of the famine, many witnesses recorded the tragedy, and some of them even hinted at its criminal nature. But the passage of time dulled the memory of succeeding generations, and subsequent publications dealing with Ukraine and the Soviet Union said little of substance about this particular disaster.”

Recent demographic studies estimate that about 4 million Ukrainians were starved by Soviet grain confiscations in the thirties:  Sergei Maksudov, “Victory Over the Peasantry,” Harvard Ukrainian Studies, Fall 2001.

In 1932 – 33 Stalin caused numerous deaths by acts of omission. He omitted to appeal for or accept international help, although this was proposed by the Ukrainian president in February 1932.  He also omitted to import grain. His crime of omission is accepted by Davies and Wheatcroft. In 1932 – 33 Stalin also caused numerous deaths by acts of commission.  Numerous deportees and camp and prison inmates—victims of a major Stalinist policy—died. Grain which might have been used to feed the starving population was exported. Peasants who tried to flee from famine-stricken Ukraine and North Caucasus were turned back.

James denies that there was criminal intent – even though the Soviets confiscated grain from the starving, deprived villages of supplies, blocked outside assistance and deliberately trapped the victims!

Here is a piece debunking the notorious Soviet-sponsored denial tract:

http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine/serbyn/

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Posted by Leon Haller on January 08, 2011, 07:46 AM | #

Jake,

Interesting posts, though you started off on the completely wrong foot, with this crap:

Jews are more successful and prominent than other groups for the simple reason that they are superior to them.  The Jews have by far contributed more to the world in science, medicine, technology, and all intellectual fields than any other group—an extraordinary feat given the endless discrimination, enslavement, and pogroms to which they have been subjected over centuries.

Germany started both World Wars and should be ashamed of its pathetic, barbaric history of tribal war and aggression.

I’m of German heritage, but an old-stock American. I do not deny the Holocaust. I do dislike Jewish assertions of superiority, not only for ethnic reasons, but because they are so obviously false. In my Ivy League university, Jews were certainly overrepresented, in both students and faculty, but Captainchaos hit the nail: ethnic nepotism is the reason, something at which Jews are the world’s masters (and whites the world’s losers - that is our greatness and our folly - it is we Aryans who are ethically superior to all other groups, including Jews). (Also, Jews are much more driven than ordinary whites to garner “elite” credentials.) Jews were hardly the best students. They were generally good debaters and discussants, but only to a point. They liked intellectual discussions on average more than the Gentiles, but they certainly were not as good as the best of us (I won the public speaking prize for my year, not a Jew; I and several other non-Jewish whites were faculty-selected writing tutors; only one Jew in our group; on the other hand, a Jewish pal of mine won the freshman essay prize). They had all the requisite mannerisms of “intellectuals” (I mean the preeners; some Jews were perfectly normal guys, no different from the whites in their behavior and outlook), but dig under the surface, and there was little solid cognitive substance. Most of the summa cum laude graduates of my class were white, btw, not Asian, and not Jewish (though the “Chosen” comprised more than a quarter of my class).

Historically, Jews have not contributed much to human civilization, except in the religious field, where they were the greatest innovators. Jews have made real contributions to the world (unlike blacks), but your hyperbolic statements show tremendous ignorance of history, including intellectual and scientific history. Historically, Jews contributed relatively little to most fields, from pure sciences to technology to philosophy to literature (Jewish contribution to art is nearly nonexistent). The vast bulk of Jewish intellectual achievement occurred since the Enlightenment. You will say this was due to emancipation, but that is only partly true. There were great Jewish philosophers (Maimonides, Spinoza), but not very many (and prejudice was not a factor). No prejudice could have stopped the formation of a canon of Jewish literature, but what there does exist in that regard is not impressive (until the 20th century - but then one gets into the ethnic nepotism thing again: Proust was great, possibly Kafka, too, though that is aesthetically debatable: but Joseph Heller, Mailer, Roth, etc? there is a lot of Jewish PR in those and many other literary Jews’ reputations).

I could go one, but I fear you are only superficially acquainted with the subject upon which you are comfortably pontificating (a very Jewish trait, btw). Why don’t you educate yourself a bit? Read:

Harry Elmer Barnes, An Intellectual and Cultural History of the Western World (3vols)

Charles Murray (a very philosemiticic conservative), Human Accomplishment

Daniel Boorstin (a Jew), The Discoverers, The Creators, The Seekers

Jews really did NOT accomplish all that much historically. The great exception is commercial and especially financial enterprise. In that field, Jewish success, proportionately speaking, is unparalleled (though most real industry has been the product of whites). And, Jews might accomplish much more in the future.

Finally, whatever the German guilt for WW2, Germans most certainly bear no more guilt for WW1 than any other European great power. You are making an assertion rejected by the whole of contemporary historiography. Also, your statements about Israeli productivity are wildly overstated. If it were so, why does Israel need so much US and German foreign aid? America and Germany have basically paid for the jewish state over the past half century. Also, Israel receives an incredible annual amount of private American Jewish support. I’m not certain how well Israel would due or have done in the absence of that aid (unlike Japan and especially Germany, who built themselves up postwar overwhelmingly on their own, despite some initial help from the US).

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Posted by Leon Haller on January 08, 2011, 07:55 AM | #

PS - sorry for my several typos above. But my meaning should be clear throughout.

Also, I am not a supporter of anti-Semitism, believing it to be a distraction from the real issues of racial survival facing Europeans, which involve the lethal errors of allowing mass nonwhite immigration, while simultaneously adopting race-denialism and ethical multiculturalism. On the other hand, I have no special love of Jews, unlike some obsequious ‘conservatives’, and believe as a matter of strictly objective history that the presence of Jewry in America and the West has been politically destructive of white interests.

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Posted by Hail on January 08, 2011, 11:38 AM | #

Leon Haller wrote:
I do not deny the Holocaust.

If you define it properly, there are no Holocaust-deniers on Earth.

Were Jews rounded up and detained and otherwise mistreated? Yes.
Did many Jews (and others) suffer in German concentration camps? Yes.
Did many Jews die during the period 1941-1945? Yes.
Were there deliberate killings of Jews by Europeans, 1941-1945? Yes.

If anyone denies any of the above, they are fools indeed.

The three harder questions:
1 — Was there an “physical extermination plan” guided by NSDAP functionaries and ordered by Hitler? There is no evidence for this. Evidence presented is almost limited to an interpretation of a handful of bureaucrats’ “Wannsee Conference”, where the phrase “Final Solution” [Endloesung] was uttered. In context it is a clear reference to the idea of eventual resettlement of European-Jewry outside Europe, to Palestine or elsewhere.
2 — Did Six Million Jews die? Honest demographic analyses using available records indicate that fewer than 1.5 million Jews died, two-thirds of them in German-occupied Europe (the lion’s share of these died in the camps). (200,000 were killed in the field while wearing Red-Army uniforms according to Soviet records; several hundred thousand in the harsh conditions of Soviet temporary housing in Siberia after evacuation in ‘41). [See “The Dissolution of Eastern European Jewry”].
3 — How many people were killed in gas chambers? Zero. There is no forensic evidence that any gassings ever took place at any camp. The numbers involved are physically impossible. Eyewitness reports have been shown to be unreliable.

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Posted by Gudmund on January 08, 2011, 12:30 PM | #

The Jews have by far contributed more to the world in science, medicine, technology, and all intellectual fields than any other group—an extraordinary feat given the endless discrimination, enslavement, and pogroms to which they have been subjected over centuries.

They have not.  Aryans have achieved the highest in all of those things.  Just to name a few things:  we harnessed electricity, discovered DNA, came up with the very system of scientific inquiry in fact, invented industral technology to increase carrying capacity, etc.  Not only are our accomplishments superior to yours, you Jews have required living in Aryan civilizations under intellectual conditions created by Aryans to accomplish all of your breakthroughs.  You need us, but we do not need you.

Face it, you’re a race of civilization-parasites, and all of your hysterical god-complex rantings do nothing other than confirm the proposition that your kind are the enemies of all mankind.  As for why you have been consistently “persecuted”, it is because you cannot behave yourselves and you know it.

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Posted by Jake on January 08, 2011, 12:57 PM | #

Hail,

It would be incredible if there were still significant traces of the gas used in the camps after all this time.  That assertion is just like your earlier propaganda video, which sinisterly intoned that, because all of the ashes from a camp could not be found conveniently in large quantities within the small confines of the camp itself undisturbed after all these decades, then we know “with 100% certainty” that the Holocaust was a hoax.  Testimony of survivors and camp guards, as well as internal Nazi records, all support the notion that gas chambers were used to exterminate Jews.  Your idea of “honest” demographic study leaves much to be desired, and your attempt to exonerate Hitler of direct involvement in the Nazi killing of “only” one million Jews is bizarre.

Leon,

You have probably done more research on this subject than I, but I think that the size of a population has to be considered when you’re evaluating its history.  I stand by my statement that Jews and East Asians have higher average IQs than whites.  I disagree with your hyperbolic belief that blacks have contributed absolutely nothing of any value to the world.

It would be pretty hard to argue that England or France did more to start WW1 than Germany or Turkey.

I’m part German myself, although mainly Polish.

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Posted by Jake on January 08, 2011, 01:00 PM | #

Gudmund,

Hysterical anti-Semites like yourself hardly merit much response, but, for the record:  I’m not Jewish.

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Posted by Ivan on January 08, 2011, 02:50 PM | #

Were Jews rounded up and detained and otherwise mistreated? Yes.
Did many Jews (and others) suffer in German concentration camps? Yes.
Did many Jews die during the period 1941-1945? Yes.
Were there deliberate killings of Jews by Europeans, 1941-1945? Yes.

If anyone denies any of the above, they are fools indeed.

Yes, but let’s not forget the jews richly deserved what they got during 1941-1945. That’s the key point.


Were Krym Tatars, Balkars, Russian Germans, Chechens rounded up and detained and otherwise mistreated? Yes.
Did many non-Jews suffer in German concentration camps? Yes.
Did many non-Jews die during the period 1941-1945? Yes.
Were there deliberate killings of Russians by Germans and Germans by Russians, 1941-1945? Yes.

If anyone denies any of the above, they are fools indeed. There was a war in 1941-1945, you know. That’s what happens during the wars. But nobody complains and nobody talks about being holocausted except the parasitic jews.

During the second round of looting and raping of Russia by the jews, which became known in History as Gorbachev’s Perestroika, a jewish journalist asked a well-known Russian-German physicist Raushenbach: How could forgive you the Soviet Government for mistreatment of Russian-Germans during the war? Raushenbach, a reasonable man, answered very simply: There is nothing for me to forgive - Stalin deported all Russian-Germans to Kazakhstan to prevent their possible collaboration with the advancing German troops. Even though I am sure that not all Russian-Germans would cooperate with Hitler in occupied territories, I can understand the prudence of doing so during the war.

Btw, all deported during the war ethnic groups were allowed to return to their homelands after the war.

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Posted by johnUK on January 08, 2011, 03:26 PM | #

@Jake

When the Soviet archive material were open up it completely debunked all of Conquests figures.

And there were famines routinely in the Soviet Union until 32-33 and was not limited to Ukraine affecting other regions of the USSR in the Caucasus, Siberia, Kazakhstan and (Russia oriented) Eastern Ukraine.
So it cannot be called genocide as it did not specifically Ukrainians with the overwhelming majority of people being effected were Russians.

It effected large agricultural centres the worst not just in Ukraine but Eastern Ukraine had the largest agriculture centre due to its quality of soil hence why it suffered the most.

The collectivisation process was created to centralise the agricultural industry and prevent since which worked as there was not another famine outbreak until WW2.

Getty did a good Q and A on the points you mentioned.

http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=H-Russia&month=0205&week=a&msg=G9gRj0I/eXnblGCPQyYXlA&user;=&pw;Origins of the Holomodor hoax.

http://chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/vv.html

Povolzhye Famine (Volga famine 1921-22)

http://gallery.dspl.ru/rus/Famine.html#

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Victims_of_the_1921_famine_in_Russia.jpg

Wheatcroft on the famine.

http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=3838
 
Mark Tauger who has studied it full time and came to the conclusion it was not an engineered famine in fact the collectivisation as well as other Soviet historians who have studied the archives.

http://www.as.wvu.edu/history/Faculty/Tauger/soviet.htm

Senior official responsible for the famine were Jewish.

“Last July, the Ukrainian Security Service released a list of high-ranking Soviet state and Communist Party officials—as well as officials from NKVD, the police force of Soviet Russia—that essentially blamed Jews and Latvians responsible for perpetrating and executing the famine because most of the names on the list were Jewish.”

http://jta.org/news/article/2009/06/15/1005888/jewish-group-objects-to-holodomor-lawsuit

I regards to the Holocaust which I don’t take particular view on why do they censor and arrest people who simply want to conduct scientific and academic research whether it is possible and technically feasible kill that many people and cremate there bodies in the time period they had like chemical tests conducted by German-trained chemist Germar Rudolf in the Rudolph Report.

Given the fact that Jewish organisations have exhorted tens of billions in reparations since WW2 which continue to this day and not just Germany on a fixated number of 6 million that was referenced by Jewish individuals dating back to WW1.

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Posted by johnUK on January 08, 2011, 03:39 PM | #

@Ivan

List of collaberators and Nazi units inside the Soviet Union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossacks,_Crimean_and_Caucasian_volunteer_units_in_German_forces

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Posted by Hail on January 08, 2011, 04:03 PM | #

Jake wrote:
It would be incredible if there were still significant traces of the gas used in the camps after all this time.

A small building used to delouse clothing at Auschwitz (the “delousing chamber”) had very high Zyklon in the late 1980s and 1990s. Three separate tests (that I know of) were carried out in that era: by Leuchter, by Rudolf, and then by Polish authorities. All came to the same exact conclusion: No appreciable trace of gas on the alleged “extermination chamber”, but a lot on the inside and outside of the delousing-building. (Which no one has ever disputed was used for delousing).

The walls of the delousing chambers had residual cyanide levels as high as 13,500 parts per million, while the rooms said to be gas chambers had on the average about 2 parts per million…similar to that found in other buildings nearby (used as a base of comparison) that may have been fumigated a few times during the war.

Was Zyklon-B Used for Mass Gassings?

The delousing building was subjected to lots of Zyklon-B to kill lice regularly. Yet the Myth tells us that far more gas was used daily at the “extermination chamber” to kill Jews. There is hardly a trace of the gas residue in the latter.

Chemical evidence does not lie.

Also see:
Zyklon B and German Delousing Facilities

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Posted by Hail on January 08, 2011, 04:17 PM | #

Jake:
internal Nazi records…support the notion that gas chambers were used to exterminate Jews

So you are holding these records in your private collection? Why haven’t you released them??

Because no one else, on Earth, has ever seen any such thing. [Except using the bizarre logic of the Holocaust-Enforcers-cum-strawgrabbers; “genocide by telepathy” as Dr. Faurisson says].

Where were these alleged “documented” exterminations carried out, according to your private collection of documents? Not at Auschwitz: Physically impossible in various technical ways (See Lueftl Report and others) and because no chemical residue of the gas remains in the “gas-chamber” buildings.

Not at Treblinka, not at Madjanek, not at Sobibor. (See “One Third of the Holocaust”)

Not at any camp that fell in West-Germany. (U.S. investigators debunked all the original hysterics about “gassings” at Dachau and so on by the late ‘40s; the Soviet Zone allowed no investigation. By the time the Communist bloc opened-up, the Myth had gone too deep).

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Posted by Ivan on January 08, 2011, 04:25 PM | #

@jamesUK

Joseph Stalin was the only man in the History of Mankind who succeeded in beating the jews in their own game. Jesus Christ ended up on the cross, Adolf Hitler committed suicide, and only Joseph Stalin beat the shit of the jews. He killed all the top Bolshevik jews and removed the jews completely from the levers of power by the end of the Great Purge of 1936-1938. That’s why jews lie about him and hate him so much - they hate Stalin even more than Hitler.

Vladimir Putin called the demise of the Soviet Union, especially the way it happened, the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century. In simplest terms what happened was that the international Jewry completed successfully dismantling of jew-free empire created almost single handedly by Joseph Stalin.

Stalin preserved the Russian statehood as best as it was possible to do so under the circumstances the Russian Empire found itself after the mess of the Bolshevik revolution.

That’s why the Russians regard Stalin today as the second greatest man in the entire history of Russia. Not Ivan The Terrible, not Peter The Great, not Katherine The Great, not Generalissimos Suvorov, not Field Marshal Kutuzov who defeated Napoleon’s Grande Armée, not Feodor Dostoevsky, not Leo Tolstoy, not Vladimir Lenin - but Joseph Stalin. Only Alexander Nevsky - the key figure of medieval Rus, proclaimed “Saint” of the Russian Orthodox Church by Metropolite Macariy in 1547 - came ahead of Stalin in the TV polls conducted just two years ago:
 
Stalin still a hero in Russia

The poll results you see in this video are preliminary. Pay attention to that ugly Jewish bitch from the Moscow branch of Carnegie Endowment, Masha Lipman, talking about “Stalin The Butcher” in an attempt to put a spin on the poll results. The presenter of the show, Alexander Lyubimov, is most probably Jewish also. He is clearly trying to diminish the importance of TV poll.

Compare the Jewish spin masters’ take on the outcome of the poll with that of that pretty Russian girl on the streets.

As the result of this successful completion of de-Stalinisation process, Russian statehood found itself by the end of the 20th century on the brink of total destruction. Russia somewhat recovered with Putin’s presidency, but it’s fate is still hanging on a thin thread.

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Posted by Ivan on January 08, 2011, 06:07 PM | #

Butt heads,

Here is a very simple idea for you if you can wrap up your lemming heads around it: Almost everything you ‘know’ about Hitler and Stalin was induced in your brains one way or the another by the jewish education, jewish books, jewish Wikipedia, jewish propaganda, jewish defamation, and jewish lies.

Here is Joseph Stalin, whom most of you in the West have never known, whom the Russian people loved dearly and still do, whom the jews would like to forget about once and for all as nightmare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9ScChTcCag&NR=1

Yes, this is propaganda, but propaganda designed to correct the jewish defamation of the great man. It may sound as blasphemy to you, butt heads - that’s how little you know - but there are attempts floating around in Russia to canonise Joseph Stalin by the Russian Orthodox Church, just like Alexander Nevsky was canonised:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/2445683/Could-Josef-Stalin-be-made-a-saint.html

That’s how important the image of Stalin has become to the Russians today when they looked into the abyss of losing their statehood and got horrified.

He’ll be back. Trust me on this.

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Posted by Leon Haller on January 08, 2011, 08:31 PM | #

I need to study these issues more than I have.

I am a conventional American conservative of the Hard Right, which used to imply (pre-neocon) looking at the world (and therefore race) honestly, and defending one’s own people first, especially when my people, white Christians, are so obviously ethically and civilizationally superior to nonwhites, in the US and around the world. I am a race-realist (recognize the truth of racial inequality), and racial nationalist (seek to ensure the genetic perpetuity, as well as defend the political power, of the white race).

Hail,

I don’t know enough to respond to you, but I doubt I shall ever really know the truth. I have several books from Noontide Press on the Holocaust, but I also have the standard mainstream histories, admittedly mostly written by Jews (eg, Yahil, Friedlander, Dawidowicz, but also Browning and others). There are interesting historiographical and even philosophical issues here pertaining to the possibility of attaining genuine historical knowledge. But how do we really know anything? Epistemologists and radical sceptics have been bruiting about these issues for, literally, millenia - and yet, we do know many things, albeit forever contingently (we must be open to new theories if additional evidence warrants them).

I confess I find it hard to believe that all of the voluminous studies of the Holocaust, by very intelligent and not always obviously dishonest persons, constitute simple myth. We racialists are prone to wanting to believe otherwise than the mainstream view of the Holocaust, precisely because the Holocaust narrative has proven so fruitful for the ethnic (as well as white ‘native alien’) enemies of white power and the West - and, to some extent, because we recognize that Jews as a group (whatever the moral merits of individual Jews) are unusually mendacious and frankly sneaky when compared at least to white gentiles. That may sound like gutter anti-Semitism, but is it true? I think so. Not every black is a criminal, but characterizing blacks as a race of criminal savages (compared to whites) is a true generalization, to the extent that human group generalizations are ever true (and nationalists hold, scientifically, that they are, even of such generalizing is often abused). It’s probably not an historical accident that Jews were the main developers of the discipline of “public relations” (aka, “spin”). 

One thing I do know, however, and have stated here and elsewhere, is that the road of Holocaust denial is not at present a fruitful one for white preservationists to go down. Obviously, I support free, open-ended intellectual inquiry (a very white attitude, btw), and, were I to become a political figure or pubic intellectual of note, I would certainly decry the totalitarian laws in Europe and elsewhere in the West obstructing such inquiry. The Jews do themselves no favor with these laws, and I do wonder what exactly they are afraid of. No one would think of jailing a man who wastes his time trying to prove that the Earth is flat.

But those who would prevent the onrushing annihilation of white civilization had better realize how limited are our funds and forces, how much the “correlation of racial power” is against us. Every trend in the world, from biological to economic to ideological, is inexorably pushing whites to eventual extinction. If we would stop these trends, we need to be very shrewd. The anti-Nazi narrative, even acknowledging the tremendous amount of mendacity and exaggeration built into it, is extremely powerful to, and well-lodged in, the Western psyche today. You may not like that fact, but we must be realistic in all things.

For well over two decades, I have been saying in racialist circles that we need to move past the Nazi period, and develop totally Nazi-rein arguments and policies. Even real Nazis should recognize this. I was thus very gratified when Jared Taylor began American Renaissance, which was clearly intended to tell the truth about race and white survival while moving beyond self-limiting old debates on the Far Right. White nationalism could/will become more popular, as the objective situation of whites collectively continues to deteriorate throughout the world (and it only will do so, if only because we are demographically shrinking, while most nonwhite peoples are rapidly expanding, an expansion that will not slow in absolute numbers until near the end of the century). But it will only do so to the extent that either whites as individuals face lethal racial danger (at which point it may be too late to save ourselves), or whites generally come to see it as ethically acceptable (hence my repeated exhortations to locate WN within Christianity, a theoretical project of great interest to me personally, but of great utility to the larger cause). Even challenging ‘Holocaustianity’ makes this task more difficult than it need be.

The way to deal with the Jews is not to deal with them directly, but to build up a positive white racial nationalism. The focus should be on demonstrating:

1. the nexus between multiculturalism and multiracialism (and, for the latter, the relation between it and mass immigration, something not as well understood in the US as it should be - especially by the younger generation, ignorant of history, massively indoctrinated by multiculti propaganda, and seeing ‘diversity’ as the American norm);

2. the threat of multiculturalism to our traditions, and the independent value of those traditions;

3. racial inequality, and the physical as well as financial threats that nonwhites pose to whites now, and how much greater these will be in the future; and

4. the hypocrisy and injustice with which whites are treated by the anti-white establishments in the West.

The important concern is to start the racialist ball rolling, so to speak. To do that, you focus on the easiest issues (illegal immigration, black or immigrant criminality, ‘affirmative’ racism), the most graphic and well-understood, not the very hardest (the Jews and their behavior). Once one element of the Left’s assault has been rolled back (either literally, or at least in terms of the psychological assent of the white majority), we press for more. Outside of revolutions (which are most unlikely in the West for the foreseeable future; ie, for decades during which the nonwhite presence, and, if you will, Jewish elite stranglehold, will continue to grow), this is the only realistic approach to take in democracies.

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Posted by Leon Haller on January 08, 2011, 08:40 PM | #

I meant to end by noting that following my approach will lead to a situation in which the Jews gradually find themselves confronted with nonwhite aliens and savages, on one side, and an awakened and increasingly assertive and confident white community, on the other. Perhaps at that point Jews will see which way the wind is blowin’, and even mute their antiwhiteness and wish to ally with us (I suspect that will be the case). But if they do not, it will be immaterial to us anyway, as Jewish power is based on white confusion and lack of collective consciousness. Awaken our people, through a ratcheting set of demands for genuine racial justice, and Jewish power will evaporate, without need for serious confrontations.

Alas, it does take a certain worldliness and wisdom to appreciate my arguments, something sadly lacking among all too many racialists.

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Posted by jamesUK on January 08, 2011, 10:37 PM | #

@Ivan

Do most people in Russia know the truth about Stalin?

I was stunned to discover despite having issues and big holes with the main stream historian view of Stalin that what we were told of him was total bogus.

Actually Stalin was killed in a 53 poisoned in a Kruschev Trotskyite lead Communist coup which Stalin discovered and legally prosecuted in trials which were not show trials prior to WW2 who Kruschev laid the foundations of anti-Stalinist propaganda by fixing the archives and launching a massive de-Stalinisation program. 

I wouldn’t categorise all Jews in a negative light after all the best resources I use to find info on the internet are LaRouches organisation with some good info on Russia and the NWO and Michel Chossudovskys Global Research.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud8gz-z4_HI#t=02m06s

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=region&regionId=6

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Posted by Jake on January 08, 2011, 10:54 PM | #

http://www.hdot.org/en/learning/myth-fact/leuchter

“The walls and ceilings of the gas chambers were plastered and whitewashed as numerous eyewitnesses have testified. By the time Leuchter arrived at the camp to take his samples, the plaster was gone and the exposed brick had been exposed to 40 years of rain, sun and snow. As HCN leaves only a thin blue chemical residue on surfaces, any “Prussian Blue” residue from the HCN would have collected on the surface of the plaster and would not have left a substantial presence on the bricks and mortar or concrete underneath.

Leuchter collected 31 handful-sized samples of bricks and mortar from the cremas and one control sample from the delousing chamber in Birkenau. By the time he crawled into the ruins of Crema 2, the plaster was long gone and only the bricks and mortar and concrete remained. Cremas 4 and 5 were constructed entirely of brick. They were totally destroyed before the end of the war. Only the concrete foundations remain and bricks have been gathered from around the area and loosely stacked up to show the general outline of the floor plan of the buildings. The bricks that Leuchter sampled did not necessarily come from anywhere near the gas chamber rooms.

In the laboratory the individual samples were ground up into powder. Any trace of the HCN residue that might have been there became a miniscule part of the entire sample. A more appropriate method would have tested only the surfaces of the sample.  Testing the total amount of the ground up powder was like trying to analyze the color and chemical structure of paint on the inside of a wall by looking for it in the boards and masonry behind the drywall. In the case of Cremas 4 and 5, it would like analyzing the materials from another room entirely.”

In reality, it requires a maximum of only 300 ppm of HNC to kill humans, whereas to kill lice, beetles, etc. requires at least 16,600 ppm of HCN. It is understandable, therefore that the walls of the delousing chamber are heavily stained with “Prussian Blue” because of the much higher concentration of HCN that was needed and by the much longer periods of time it took to kill insects.

The gas chambers used much lower concentrations of HCN, were quickly aired out and were not always in continuous use. After each gassing, the walls and floors were washed down with water. Furthermore, Cremas 2, 3, 4 and 5 are in ruins and had been exposed to the elements of sun, rain, ice and snow for 43 years when Leuchter took his samples. The delousing building, on the other hand, is still standing so the walls with the “Prussian Blue” residue are protected from the elements.

A properly authorized and meticulously conducted, rigorously scientific study done by Polish authorities in 1994 found that “in spite of the passage of a considerable period of time (over 45 years) in the walls of the facilities which once were in contact with hydrogen cyanide the vestigial amounts of the combinations of this constituent of Zyklon B had been preserved. This is also true of the ruins of the former gas chambers.”

The fact that even “insignificant traces” were found in the ruins of the gas chambers after all these years of being exposed to the elements is proof that there WERE gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau.

So you are holding these records in your private collection?

A letter from Karl Bischoff, the head architect at Auschwitz, to the German Armament Works dated March 31, 1943 orders “three gas tight doors” for Crema 3 following “exactly the size and construction of those already delivered” for Crema 2. Bischoff reminded the manufacturer that the doors had to have a spy-hole of double 8-mm glass “with a rubber seal and metal fitting.” The order was characterized as “very urgent.”

There are also many photographs of actual gas-tight doors that were found all over Auschwitz immediately after the war. One, which had been used in either Crema 4 or 5, had a peep-hole covered with a heavy mesh screen and still had a gas-tight seal still around the edge, just as Bischoff’s letter requested.

The blueprints for Crema 2 show ventilation ducts in the walls (labeled ‘Entlüftung’) and the remains of the ducts can still be seen in the ruins.

In the archives there is also a request for a “handle for the gastight door” and a request for “twenty-four-gastight anchoring screws for gas tight doors” for Cremas 4 and 5.

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Posted by Ivan on January 08, 2011, 11:57 PM | #

Do most people in Russia know the truth about Stalin?

No, jamesUK, unfortunately they don’t. Peoples of the Russian Federation, like any other peoples, are not immune to jewish lies and brainwashing. Still, not surprisingly, their knowledge of Stalin is more accurate compared to that of the Westerners’.

Intellectuals, like Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who is looked upon like some kind of great sage in the Western world, were in the forefront of destroying the great Soviet Empire created at such enormous cost and sacrifice by the Russian and other Soviet peoples.

Yes, you are absolutely right, de-Stalinisation process started almost immediately after Stalin’s death by little, stupid man Khrushchev.

It may sound somewhat paradoxical, but the attitude and opinion held of Stalin by ordinary Russians are closer to the reality than that of Russian intellectuals. You see, ordinary people were not infected with the disease of reading jewish books revealing ‘the truth’ about Stalin - a trend that became very fashionable among Russian intellectuals during Gorbachev’s Perestroika. But what happened to Russia and its peoples during Perestroika served as an invaluable education to the whole nation which prompted an intense interest in the legacy and personality of Stalin.

Now people, including even stupid intellectuals, slowly but surely are coming to a realization of what they had under Stalin and what they lost forever. Russia became an ordinary consumer society, which is absolutely morbid to the Russian spirituality. Russians are one of the few nations on Earth with messianic mentality and spirit. Take that spirit from them - they are no longer Russians.

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Posted by Jake on January 09, 2011, 01:05 AM | #

Just as my most post above debunks the “no gas chamber” propaganda of the Hitler-worshippers that post here, Ivan’s admiration for Stalin needs to be confronted.

Conquest was not at all “too high” in his estimates.  In the Great Terror, Conquest stated that at least 20 million, and more probably 30 million, individuals were killed by Josef Stalin’s regime.  According to professor R.J. Rummel, Conquest’s calculations excluded camp deaths after 1950, and before 1936; executions 1939-53; the vast deportation of the people of captive nations into the camps, and their deaths 1939-1953; the massive deportation within the Soviet Union of minorities 1941-1944; and their deaths; and those the Soviet Red Army and secret police executed throughout Eastern Europe after their conquest during 1944-1945. Moreover, the Holodomor that killed 5 million in 1932-1934 (according to Rummel) is not included.  Rummel wrote:

“One source of the difference is that Conquest too conservatively estimates the death toll in the camps as 12,000,000 for the years 1936 to 1950, when for just the post-war period alone, 1946-1953, the toll probably exceeded this (see Appendix 8.1). The mid-total of those killed in the camps during the Stalin years is 32,584,000 (less than 2,000,000 of these foreigners); about 7,000,000 more were killed in other years. It is significant here, therefore, that the overall, mid-total of camp deaths based on these numbers already has been shown not to be excessive (lines 38 to 56). Second, Conquest excludes the 5,000,000 intentionally starved to death in the Ukrainian famine (this intentionality and number Conquest establishes in a much later work), and the perhaps 333,000 famine deaths Stalin was responsible for in the post-war period. Third, excluding those killed in collectivization and the camps, Conquest only allows for a million executions during the period, which he believes is “certainly a low estimate.” Indeed, a million executions is probably a safe estimate for the Great Terror period alone. I get from the Appendices (4.1-8.1) a total of 4,565,000 more killed in Stalin’s terror throughout his 25-year reign. Finally, Conquest ignores the millions that died in deportations after the collectivization period (in a much later work Conquest himself calculates that 530,000 died alone in the deportation of eight nations during the war; this excludes the death toll among Ukrainians, non-Volga German-Soviets, Greek-Soviets, Korean-Soviets, etc.—see Appendix 7.1).”

In total; Rummel estimates that the former Soviet Union was responsible for the deaths of 62 million people, including 7 million foreigners and 55 million citizens. This includes 4 million in the civil war; 2 million under Lenin’s New Economic Policy; and 7 million murdered by Stalin’s successors. (The commonly cited estimate of dead in the civil war is around 14 million, but Rummel is here counting only democidal killings by the Communists during the war).

Rummel arrived at this number by taking every scholarly estimate he could find for deaths BY CAUSE in the Soviet Union and then averaging them out.  He did so multiple times in several peer-reviewed works over decades, and repeated the process for Nazi Germany and Maoist China.  His estimates for Nazi Germany (21 million) and Maoist China (76 million; internal Chinese government studies estimate 80 million) have been confirmed.  He checked this data by comparing it to the democide rates he established for every other Communist country and found that all were roughly identical.

The most recent demographic evidence suggests that Stalin killed well over 10 million, and perhaps as many as 15 million, individuals during the thirties alone, and an even greater sum than this during WW2:  http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left/soviet/rosefielde.pdf

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Posted by johnUK on January 09, 2011, 01:28 AM | #

@Ivan

Medvedev is pushing a new anti-Stalinist line making Solzhenitsyn mostly fraudulent work Gulag Archipelago as mandatory reading in Russian schools and pushed the Duma to recognise Soviet guilty for Katyn although there was new revelations the year that the smoking gun documents were forgeries and that since Yeltsin rule that a group was operating to falsify and insert forged material into the archives. 

http://katynmassakern.blogspot.com/

The Communist system was inevitable that it would collapse as it was not Russian but an artificially entity like the Taliban in Afghanistan forced on the Russian people a hostile minority government who wanted to replace the ethnic Russian population with junk like abortion, open immigration, radical feminism, forced atheism, etc.

Even Stalin in 1901 decried Tsarist policy of Russification.

As Lenin put it:

“I don’t care what becomes of Russia. To hell with it. All this is only the road to a World Revolution.”

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/vladimir_lenin_quote_5031

Even though Stalin attempted to Russify Communism in Russia it was still in the trappings of Communist ideology. 

Now that Communism has collapsed Russia can now acquire western technologies and companies like China did and create there own industries and forge trade alliances with other countries like Germany and France.

A good economic model for Russia to emulate is there Eastern neighbour China who with Chinese assistance can help develop Siberia.

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Posted by johnUK on January 09, 2011, 02:01 AM | #

@Jake

Conquest work has been debunked by people that have studied the archives and did a detailed analysis of the data including census data.
Most people died pre WW2 due to periodic famine and large outbreaks of disease.

Analysis of archive material and real numbers.

Victims of the Soviet Penal System in the Pre-war Years:A First Approach on the Basis of Archival Evidence
Contributors:
Peter A. Coclanis, J. Arch Getty, James L. Huston, Marc Raeff, Gabor T. Rittersporn, Paul W. Schroeder, Carl Strikwerda and Viktor N. Zemskov

http://web.archive.org/web/20080611064213/http:/www.etext.org/Politics/Staljin/Staljin/articles/AHR/AHR.html

The Melbourne Gateway to Research on Soviet History (MelGROSH) (includes NKVD records and other archive material posted on the site).

http://www.melgrosh.unimelb.edu.au/home-front.php

The most recent demographic evidence suggests that Stalin killed well over 10 million, and perhaps as many as 15 million, individuals during the thirties alone

LOL!

How exactly was he able to start massive industrialisation projects when Stalin for no apparent reason facing a serious threat from both its eastern and western flank started to kill of his workforce needed for construction and factories.

Wouldn’t industrial output decline?

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Posted by Ivan on January 09, 2011, 02:07 AM | #

Jake,

May I make a suggestion for you to put at the top of your posts with your ‘debunks’ and ‘proofs’ a warning: The following is not for people with common sense, it’s rather for intellectuals like James Bowery. That would save lots of people lots of time, not to mention, lots of brains from damage, unless your purpose is precisely that - to damage brains - of course.

Here is, Jake, how an ordinary man with absolutely no scientific or historical knowledge, but with just a modicum of common sense and second grade math would figure out with ease that the so-called Holocaust was and is a jewish sham, scam, scheme - whichever word you prefer.

Would you pay $100 at e-Bay for a most urgently needed item, the delivery of which, if ever delivered, would take two weeks, if you could easily buy that same item for $1 at your local One-Dollar store down the street?

Why would Germans, or anybody else for that matter, build expensive, awkward, inefficient gas chambers while waging a war on two fronts, hoard stinking jews in concentration camps, tattoo them, feed them for months, shower them before they shove them into these ovens, while all it takes to get rid of a human parasite is one minute and one bullet in the back of the head. And, by the way, that’s exactly what Germans were doing to the jewish commissars in the occupied territories. Taking into account what jews did to Germany, could you blame them for doing so?

Do you know how many human bodies per day you would have to burn to account for 6 million people? Over 4000 every fucking day for 4 years! That’s about the population of a small town, Jake. Could that be done without leaving heavy footprints all over the place? This Holocaust narrative makes absolutely no sense, no matter how you look at it. That’s why it is absolutely necessary to confuse people with ‘debunks’ and ‘proofs’ before one could sell this Holocaust story to unthinking lemmings.

The truth, as always, is very simple: There was no plans - secret or otherwise - for mass physical extermination of jews in Hitler’s Germany. Gassing and all that is pure baloney - it never happened.

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Posted by Hamish on January 09, 2011, 08:39 AM | #

Why would Germans, or anybody else for that matter, build expensive, awkward, inefficient gas chambers while waging a war on two fronts, hoard stinking jews in concentration camps, tattoo them, feed them for months, shower them before they shove them into these ovens, while all it takes to get rid of a human parasite is one minute and one bullet in the back of the head.

Because the concentration camps, whatever else they may have been, were used as work camps.

Even if the purpose of the work camps was to kill all the Jews who ended up in them, it doesn’t change that they got a lot of slave labor out of them (especially compared to how cheaply they fed them) before they killed them.

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Posted by Thorn on January 09, 2011, 11:14 AM | #

Just heard on “right wing” FOX News that Gabrielle Giffords is Jewish and the shooter is connected to the “anti-Semitic” organization: American Renaissance. Great news reporting, eh?

As we can imagine, the SPLC, ADL, and all the rest of the “anti-racist” (read: anti-white) groups will exploit this tragic incident to the hilt.

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Posted by Hail on January 09, 2011, 12:04 PM | #

RE Thorn:

Occidental-Dissent has a thread up with lots of running commentary and news posting on this shooting.

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Posted by Thorn on January 09, 2011, 04:38 PM | #

Occidental-Dissent has a thread up with lots of running commentary and news posting on this shooting.

Hail,

Thanks for bringing that to our attention. Will check it out.

I see Jared Taylor has now weighed in on the issue and is trying to set the record straight.

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Posted by Jake on January 09, 2011, 08:19 PM | #

Hail, I’m not going to let this go.  In my earlier response, I wrote:

“In reality, it requires a maximum of only 300 ppm of HNC to kill humans, whereas to kill lice, beetles, etc. requires at least 16,600 ppm of HCN. It is understandable, therefore that the walls of the delousing chamber are heavily stained with “Prussian Blue” because of the much higher concentration of HCN that was needed and by the much longer periods of time it took to kill insects.

The gas chambers used much lower concentrations of HCN, were quickly aired out and were not always in continuous use. After each gassing, the walls and floors were washed down with water. Furthermore, Cremas 2, 3, 4 and 5 are in ruins and had been exposed to the elements of sun, rain, ice and snow for 43 years when Leuchter took his samples. The delousing building, on the other hand, is still standing so the walls with the “Prussian Blue” residue are protected from the elements.

A properly authorized and meticulously conducted, rigorously scientific study done by Polish authorities in 1994 found that “in spite of the passage of a considerable period of time (over 45 years) in the walls of the facilities which once were in contact with hydrogen cyanide the vestigial amounts of the combinations of this constituent of Zyklon B had been preserved. This is also true of the ruins of the former gas chambers.”

A letter from Karl Bischoff, the head architect at Auschwitz, to the German Armament Works dated March 31, 1943 orders “three gas tight doors” for Crema 3 following “exactly the size and construction of those already delivered” for Crema 2. Bischoff reminded the manufacturer that the doors had to have a spy-hole of double 8-mm glass “with a rubber seal and metal fitting.” The order was characterized as “very urgent.”

There are also many photographs of actual gas-tight doors that were found all over Auschwitz immediately after the war. One, which had been used in either Crema 4 or 5, had a peep-hole covered with a heavy mesh screen and still had a gas-tight seal still around the edge, just as Bischoff’s letter requested.

The blueprints for Crema 2 show ventilation ducts in the walls (labeled ‘Entlüftung’) and the remains of the ducts can still be seen in the ruins.

In the archives there is also a request for a “handle for the gastight door” and a request for “twenty-four-gastight anchoring screws for gas tight doors” for Cremas 4 and 5.

http://www.hdot.org/en/learning/myth-fact/leuchter

“The walls and ceilings of the gas chambers were plastered and whitewashed as numerous eyewitnesses have testified. By the time Leuchter arrived at the camp to take his samples, the plaster was gone and the exposed brick had been exposed to 40 years of rain, sun and snow. As HCN leaves only a thin blue chemical residue on surfaces, any “Prussian Blue” residue from the HCN would have collected on the surface of the plaster and would not have left a substantial presence on the bricks and mortar or concrete underneath.

Leuchter collected 31 handful-sized samples of bricks and mortar from the cremas and one control sample from the delousing chamber in Birkenau. By the time he crawled into the ruins of Crema 2, the plaster was long gone and only the bricks and mortar and concrete remained. Cremas 4 and 5 were constructed entirely of brick. They were totally destroyed before the end of the war. Only the concrete foundations remain and bricks have been gathered from around the area and loosely stacked up to show the general outline of the floor plan of the buildings. The bricks that Leuchter sampled did not necessarily come from anywhere near the gas chamber rooms.

In the laboratory the individual samples were ground up into powder. Any trace of the HCN residue that might have been there became a miniscule part of the entire sample. A more appropriate method would have tested only the surfaces of the sample.  Testing the total amount of the ground up powder was like trying to analyze the color and chemical structure of paint on the inside of a wall by looking for it in the boards and masonry behind the drywall. In the case of Cremas 4 and 5, it would like analyzing the materials from another room entirely.”

The fact that even “insignificant traces” were found in the ruins of the gas chambers after all these years of being exposed to the elements is proof that there WERE gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau.”

You can’t just ignore the facts.

Do you have any response, or do you admit you were lying?

The fact that mass murderers continue to espouse your ideology ought to give you pause for thought.

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Posted by lessli on January 09, 2011, 09:51 PM | #

i wanna now how hittler got soo much power over the jewish peolpe?
why did hitler hate his own peolpe!!!!!!??????????

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Posted by Ivan on January 09, 2011, 10:03 PM | #

Who is ‘hittler’, lessli?

Btw, the lesser lessli knows the better lessli sleeps.

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Posted by A Leader Speaks on January 10, 2011, 04:10 AM | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBG1Q0rI8wE&feature=grec_index

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Posted by JAgans on February 05, 2011, 08:30 PM | #

First, of all, it is deeply troubling to me to know that there are people who harbor such hate for any group of people. As a small business owner, I have had many dealings with Jewish People and they have always been very fair with me in every respect.

Second, It is absolutely abhorrent to me that anyone could be so ignorant as to deny what happened to the Jews, the Poles, and all other nationalities at the hands of Hitlers Henchmen. Do you think that the movies of executions and mountains of emaciated bodies are a fake?????

Some of our greatest thinkers have been Jews. Of course, the ability to think is obviously very alien and suspicious to some of the hateful ignoramuses who have posted concerning this issue.

To hate a human being for their Nationality, or their color is truly a testament to the fact that many poor excuses for human beings have not ventured very far from the cave.

Hate consumes the hater

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Posted by Guessedworker on February 05, 2011, 09:07 PM | #

JAgans,

If you are a prisoner of the belief that Hitler “hated”, perhaps those Jewish people you have engaged with didn’t treat you quite as fairly as you thought.

It is normal for people to want to be free of received wisdom.  I commend this happy estate to you, and hope you will pursue it with due vigour.  You need to.

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Posted by Ivan on February 05, 2011, 10:55 PM | #

It is very simple in a nutshell, Jay Agans
Jewish interests were Germans’ against
In order to protect his own kin
Hitler had to get rid of vermin
Should we repeat this again and again ?

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Posted by joshua on February 21, 2011, 08:15 PM | #

my mate hayden triffett said hes gay

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Posted by danielj on February 21, 2011, 09:46 PM | #

Some of our greatest thinkers have been Jews.

Even more of our greatest thinkers have been anti-semites.

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Posted by Mahmoud on April 05, 2011, 12:35 PM | #

From what I learned from reading a book sometime ago here the author explains why Hitler’s hate for the Jews multi-folded after WW II when he learned that many Jews betrayed him deeply.

While he was at the summit of his power and his win over the British was certain during the WW II, the British were about to sign a treaty with Germany that would take much of their rights away. Palestine was still under the British dependence and there was no Nation known as Israel.

The Jews decided to make a deal with England by betraying Hitler that costed Hitler everything he had.  They asked England how about we do something that you no longer need to sign the treaty, because you would not lose but instead win the war; however we want you to do something for us after you win. The deal they asked for was to give us Palestine and we make it our own nation after the war.

Obviously, the British didn’t mind to do that beacuse they were losing anyhow and Palestine was a small country anyway. So, as soon as this deal was done, Hitler learned that the influential Jews who had strong ties with the U.S. Government, forced the United States into the WW II which led into the destruciton of German forces. Hilter’s dreams all vanished by this betrayal and he continued his hate for the Jews until he died. After the WWII was finished, the Jews went back to the British and then claimed Palestine and invented a new country now known as Israel.

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Posted by Dirty Bull on April 05, 2011, 12:56 PM | #

Mahmoud,
          You’re post would be correct if you said World War 1 instead of WW2, mentioned the Balfour Declaration and David Lloyd George.

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Posted by MOB on April 06, 2011, 05:44 AM | #

Anyone who says, “Hitler, again . . .” is ignorant.  Certainly too ignorant to call himself a White Nationalist or whatever variation.  Hitler cannot be avoided - he should not be rejected - he is the only person to have ever waged a national war against Jewish tyranny.  That’s why Jews despise him.  That’s why non-Jews must either support him or be silent on the subject.

I see Troy Southgate is cashing in on Hitler with his new book.  I won’t be buying a copy.

Like a scalded cat, Troy instantly, knee-jerk, within seconds, unsubscribed me from his New Right list when I, ignorant of the crime I was committing, posted the URL of photographs of the Third Reich that David Irving posted on his website.  Color photos that revealed the aesthetics of the clothing, hairstyles, uniforms, demeanor, buildings, environments—all beautiful—and, of course, the huge enthusiasm of thousands upon thousands of Germans.

There wasn’t a drop of arrogance in my parents, who came to America from northern Germany in 1930, or in fellow immigrant relatives, neighbors, or friends, all of whom were equally poor but of high quality. They all supported Hitler - fervently.  None were of a rabid temperament.  All understood the Jewish Problem.

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Posted by Cara on April 18, 2011, 11:43 AM | #

cheese  Well he hated the jews because he was selfish and they didnt have blonde hair blue eyes !!!

If you dont like the anwser I am 14 so !!

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Posted by Shandi on May 02, 2011, 06:02 PM | #

this article isn’t really helpful!!!

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Posted by Mike on May 11, 2011, 12:30 AM | #

Benjamin Friedman’s 1961 speech given at the Willard Hotel in Washington D.C. says it all and proves beyond any doubt that Hitler and the Nazis were NOT scapegoating the Jews at all but actually knew EXACTLY what they were talking about!!!! Hitler himself said that his political philosophy was “speak the truth and fear not man.” All so called “psychological theories” as to why Hitler said what he did regarding the Jews and how they stabbed Germany in the back are pure rubbish. Hitler spoke the truth and in return for his honesty his country was burned to the ground. They is also still no reason to believe that Friedman as well was not speaking the truth when he said…
 
“World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. Nineteen-hundred and fourteen was the year in which World War One broke out. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. What happened? Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean, and Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, stood there with one week’s food supply facing her—and after that, starvation. At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home, they didn’t want to play war anymore, they didn’t like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed.
Now Germany—not a shot had been fired on the German soil. Not an enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: “Let’s call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.” Well, England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that. Seriously ! They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated.
While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and—I am going to be brief because this is a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make if anyone here is curious, or doesn’t believe what I’m saying is at all possible—the Zionists in London went to the British war cabinet and they said: “Look here. You can yet win this war. You don’t have to give up. You don’t have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally.”
The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They [Zionists] told England: “We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war.”
In other words, they made this deal: “We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.” Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It’s absolutely absurd that Great Britain—that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine—should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war. However, they made that promise, in October of 1916. October, nineteen hundred and sixteen. And shortly after that—I don’t know how many here remember it—the United States, which was almost totally pro-German—totally pro-German—because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews, and they were pro-German because their people, in the majority of cases came from Germany, and they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar. The Jews didn’t like the Czar, and they didn’t want Russia to win this war. So the German bankers—the German-Jews—Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: &“As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent! “But they poured money into Germany; they fought with Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime. Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, they went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like the traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they’d been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies’ hands. And they were no good. Well, shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.
The Zionists in London sent these cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis: “Go to work on President Wilson. We’re getting from England what we want. Now you go to work, and you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war.” And that did happen. That’s how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room. Now the war—World War One—in which the United States participated, had absolutely no reason to be our war. We went in there—we were railroaded into it—if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into—that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. Now, that is something that the people in the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War One. Now, what happened? After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: “Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let’s have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war.” Because they didn’t know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, and it was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn’t know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration. The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain’s promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. And I don’t think I could make it more emphatic than that. Now, that is where all the trouble started. The United States went in the war. The United States crushed Germany. We went in there, and it’s history. You know what happened. Now, when the war was ended, and the Germans went to Paris, to the Paris Peace Conference in 1919, there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened? The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations that claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, the Jews said, How about Palestine for us??  And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration.  So the Germans, for the first time realized Oh that was the game!  That’s why the United States came into the war.?  And the Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered this terrific reparation that was slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and they were determined to get it at any cost. Now, that brings us up to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany.
You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd’s and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers—the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. Now, the Germans felt: Well, that was quite a sellout. It was a sellout that I can best compare—suppose the United States was at war today with the Soviet Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: “Well, let’s quit. We offer you peace terms. Let’s forget the whole thing.” And all of a sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crushing defeat, with reparations the likes of which man’s imagination cannot encompass.
Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese citizens, who all the time we thought they were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to the Soviet Union and that it was through them that Red China was brought into the war against us. How would we feel, in the United States against Chinese? I don’t think that one of them would dare show his face on any street. There wouldn’t be lampposts enough, convenient, to take care of them. Imagine how we would feel. Well, that’s how the Germans felt towards these Jews. “We’ve been so nice to them”; and from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here they sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than they wanted Palestine as a so-called “Jewish commonwealth.” Now, Nahum Sokolow—all the great leaders, the big names that you read about in connection with Zionism today—they, in 1919, 1920, ‘21, ‘22, and ‘23, they wrote in all their papers—and the press was filled with their statements—that “the feeling against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by our intercession and bringing the United States into the war against them.”

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Posted by Mike on May 11, 2011, 12:32 AM | #

In fact, Hitler was RIGHT about the Jews and why he thought what he did is only a mystery if you want it to be!

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Posted by Mike on May 11, 2011, 12:58 AM | #

Mahmoud you were pretty much correct in your comments. However, you simply got the war wrong and a few other little facts wrong. It was not during the WWII that the Zionists made their deal with the British and stabbed Germany in the back but during WWI.

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Posted by wtfp on May 13, 2011, 09:53 AM | #

you people are sick and should be ashamed of yourselves. i might be young, and i might not understand some of the things you’re saying, but i can tell when someone is supporting this and i am shocked at the amount of people actually sticking up for this man. he is a horrid person and you are horrid for agreeing with him. get a life and go outside.

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Posted by Abhishek jain on May 22, 2011, 05:49 AM | #

well he was a good man as i have listened
 

but had a wrong and bad felling against jewish people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by dawnstar on June 10, 2011, 03:20 PM | #

i got to admit it doesn’t matter why he hated them we just know he hated them with far more then a passion but apparently some people think different and have different resources then everybody else. so who care he hated them and that’s all we know. the only person to tell you the truth is himself and he is dead so someone is right and someone is wrong.

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Posted by Sam Carpenter on July 28, 2011, 08:43 PM | #

The interesting thing here is that as I see it, Jewish conspiracy works on an almost subconscious level, never raising a fist, never raising a voice, but in its totality it achieves an aim and total domination of everything worth anything. In contrast, intelligent Christians “support Israel”, or “believe in human rights” or spew out such nonsense that it is hard to think of Chiristianity as anything short of a faith of fools in the wake of the Semitic juggernaut. Yet, there is no spirituality with Judaism, only pretence. They work thru the media and government to make Christianity the same way.

It is pathetic to see the Jewish professionals, deliberate in their erudite defense mechanism, vs. the white of European descent, most likely grossly inarticulate, undercapitalized, with defensive strategies that cannot work and that creates a social tension in which they themselves are the pascal lamb when the government needs to find a villain.

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Posted by thomson on July 29, 2011, 05:46 AM | #

hmm…
          i think that,its somewhat correct.And he proved how racism can be effectively used to create national integration,gr8 is nt it????????????????

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Posted by klin on July 30, 2011, 02:40 PM | #

Germans realised the need of colonialism far later than the others and while speeding up they followed that lunatic leader who made a mess everywhere.Germans are endowed with may qualities and Hitler was also probably the most charismatic mass leader human civilisation has ever seen but its a matter of same and misfortune for the world that the combination did not click.

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Posted by Es on August 07, 2011, 06:23 AM | #

“Germans realised the need of colonialism far later than the others and while speeding up they followed that lunatic leader”
Where do you get that from? The Germans had to give up their colonies after WWI as part of the reparations.
Also that comment from another poster, how Germans were indulging in their self-glory when Hitler came to power? What?? Have you heard nothing about the situation the Germans were in at the time?
Having and discussing opinions is one thing but how can you discuss on a base where you get the facts all wrong?
Some good history books on the subject might help.

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Posted by Alexandra on August 13, 2011, 04:37 PM | #

Hi,
Thanks for the information, I now understand the “Leftist” theory.
This has really helped with my research for my coursework.

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Posted by believer on August 21, 2011, 09:08 PM | #

hitler hated the jews cause the devil inpired the human souls of many germans and of hitler to do so

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Posted by Luke on August 25, 2011, 06:21 AM | #

the reason I think he hates jew was because after ww1 (which he served in) left Germany in a povety while Jewish people, who were all mostly worked at banks, lived in luxury compared to Germans that are left freezing to death on the streets. This incredibly angred Hitler that they were doing so while millions of Germans were dying on the streets. He saw “Judenrein” as Germany’s revenge on the Jews for watching many people suffer. I’m on the Nazi’s side, it just shows how selfish and greedy Jews are and will even leave many to die to stay in good health and have a warm bed and food to eat

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Posted by Katie on September 20, 2011, 06:05 PM | #

The reason why I think Hitler hated the Jews was because how he was treated when he was a child. He was lonely and unhappy, but when he moved to Germany from Austria he made some friends that liked him as a friend. Then after World War I he blamed the Jews for the defeat of Germany. He thought that the Jews had betrayed them by being Allies with the enemy. Also, he hated them for their type of Religion. Personally, I think he was Jealous because they are called God’s Children and he’s not.

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Posted by Jeriel Ahman Patula on September 26, 2011, 02:15 AM | #

In my own understanding. Hitler himself hated jewish people because he believe that they are the cause of his fallen dream.. He wanted to be a good painter but he was neglected and destroyed.. He saw the lots of jewish are good in painting.. And he felt a heavy burden about it… Another thing was that, he actually though that the Jewish people are the burden of Germany.. They cause the Germany to be pulled down… And the German people though that Hitler is was pushed as a chancellor because of the jewish people…

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Posted by Tren on October 03, 2011, 10:06 AM | #

Posted by Luke on August 25, 2011, 10:21 AM | #

the reason I think he hates jew was because after ww1 (which he served in) left Germany in a povety while Jewish people, who were all mostly worked at banks, lived in luxury compared to Germans that are left freezing to death on the streets. This incredibly angred Hitler that they were doing so while millions of Germans were dying on the streets. He saw “Judenrein” as Germany’s revenge on the Jews for watching many people suffer. I’m on the Nazi’s side, it just shows how selfish and greedy Jews are and will even leave many to die to stay in good health and have a warm bed and food to eat

Neo-nazi theories.

Well, sounds funny and that’s the base of every Jew conspiracy that Neo-Nazis want to fight.

There’s no need to argue the same things over and over again.
Simple and easy, people should read the “Treaty of Versailles’ terms
and could understand why actions like the invasion to Poland and France took place.
Why Hitler signed a non aggression treaty with URSS
(some Russian Neo-Nazis use this to say “Hitler loves us” and justify their Nazism
when it was only to prevent to URSS could interferer their invasion to Poland)
and other acts thought by Hitler.

As they say “the end of WWI is the beginning of WWII”.
The Treaty of Versailles left a lot of resentment in Germany
and was forced to have a not so good economy.
It should be a great paradise to make a lot of money…

In the end, Neo Nazis want to repeat the history and that means lose again.
even the people they try to save (save?) don’t like them.

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Posted by Politically incorect on October 07, 2011, 01:20 PM | #

Jews…...decadence…..control….abuse of power?  Never!

Haulicost shmaulicost….How often do you hear a jew getting upset about Columbus and the masacer of millions of native Americans?  Hit’s a little too close to home.

look at Palestine….oooops sorry…Israel.  Rocks vs Appache helicopters…. (Well, they started it)

How about Mel Gibson….Who?

Charlie Sheen?

Don’t screw with the chosen ones.

Slautering jews…...un-acceptable yes….understandable???

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Posted by Hamma Mirwaisi on October 18, 2011, 05:50 AM | #

Why Jews are Hating Humanity?
http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2011/10/state5496.htm

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Posted by sawyer on November 12, 2011, 04:22 PM | #

Hitler killed jews and all what he believe non supreme persons, Because he read the bible and realized that Jews and even Africans were ancestors of Jesus.  He tried to eradicate the truth. King David married a African woman named Bathsheba and gave birth to a child Solomon who was given by God more wealth and wisdom that any king of any nation that is or ever has been.  God asked him to build his elaborate temple.  Hitler could not deal with the thought of not being the supreme race. But,  Jesus is no respect of persons. I’ll reward in heave is not by genology but by souls bought to Jesus and good works. The bible said that all who accepts him are the sons and daughters of God. We are all the children of God if we accept his salvation. Who soever will let him come.

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Posted by theolo on November 13, 2011, 12:33 PM | #

DNA tests have shown that Hitler’s ancestors are African Jews. And he shot himself, he was an hero.

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Posted by Rustybuck on November 21, 2011, 06:09 PM | #

Guessedworker…........good stuff.  The only thing needed to add is (and I don’t have space to do it here
) is the total history of these jews.  As a culture of talmud believers, their own history speaks
volumns for their own actions.  Poor jew doesn’t doesn’t get it for me and many.  They have been run out of over 109 countries as a people…..why…..why…...money changers….....economic controls….
government controls, schools, who were the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, ie…..these creatures
have NOT ONE good place in all of global history…..why…why…..read their talmud.  They live by totally
different rule books ie.  and continue to make changes and lies according to their agenda…which is still
alive and well…all these issues we and nations are facing today can be traced to their agenda.
Its all about us Christians being Gentiles and spit to these people and always has been.  They are
thieves of our blood….our lives….our countries, and our governments, our schools, our morals….
even our thoughts….check out the purpose of the ADL and the ACLU…..damage control….
and what about their homeland security…...bully laws…..bad mouth laws….check it out gang
its all around us.

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Posted by Rustybuck on November 21, 2011, 06:26 PM | #

To: Hail

I Totally agree…...good stuff one only needs to review why they have been run out of over
109 countries…....seems they are serious as a heart attack bout being stupid.  Perhaps this
next (close at hand) “crash” will finally set the record straight.  I’m hopeful that Gentiles will wake
up…go the distance…..and stop what was started some 3000 years ago.  We have little time
left to organize.

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Posted by jasmine lokesh on November 26, 2011, 01:55 AM | #

hitler was really a good man but power made him evil and he wanted to avenge everybody who were responsible according to him for his past sorrows

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Posted by max white on December 02, 2011, 10:22 AM | #

WHY HITLER SO MAD ABOUT THE JEWS?

BECAUSE POLAND ALLOWED THE RUSSIANS TO PAST THROUGH THEIR LAND TO ATTACK GERMANY.

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Posted by Simon on December 28, 2011, 06:31 AM | #

And I thought the media and politicians were incapable of answering a simple question! You lot take the biscuit!

I have read (and am by no means an expert) in many places that Hitler wished to eradicate the ‘problem that were the Jews’.

If we could avoid all the pro Jew/British/German rhetoric, what exactly was the “Jew Problem”? It wasn’t just Hitler who disliked them and the inference is that the ‘problem’ had been around for years. I have many Jewish friends who cannot (or will not) answer this question.

Was it the pursuit of wealth? Political power? Surely not religeon? Was it the control of the banks as we see today?

Anti Jewish sentiment pre-existed WW2 by many years. Why?

Thanks
Simon

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Posted by Judy on January 04, 2012, 06:38 PM | #

I read that Hitler feared the Zionist/Bolshevik Jews.  There are more than one type of Jew. You can read about them on the Internet. 

They wanted to rule the world and take over Austria which Hitler loved. 

So it was Fascism against Communism.  A clash of power.

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Posted by lazar on January 07, 2012, 11:18 PM | #

HITLER STOPED IN GEMANY,WHAT ALREADY HAPPENED IN TODAYS U.S…..

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Posted by JC on January 13, 2012, 02:09 AM | #

The world would be a much better place if Hitler had succeeded.

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Posted by Bob Storm on January 30, 2012, 10:16 PM | #

Listen to this music and in wonderment of sadness ask yourself is this what any people should ever feel due to one mans rise?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnp_Xj9isrM&feature=related

If it’s not allowed it’s Henryk Gorecki symphony of sorrowful songs.

Sympathisers of Hitler should remember that he brought more death and devastation to the world than any other regime in the history of mankind.

We must trust in goodness not evil. Germania does not and never will exist and neither will a utopian state of Palestine.
So many lives lost for land.
God forgive them - if they want it.

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Posted by Darya Akatsuki on February 13, 2012, 02:56 PM | #

It is false to say that Jews are first and foremost Jews and only then are they the loyal citizens of their respective countries. Jews have unreservedly fought and sacrificed in the service of their homelands, often killing their coreligionists in the process. But it is true that Jews believe that what is good for the Jews is good for the country they reside in. By aligning the interests of their adopted habitat with their narrower and selfish agenda, Jews feel justified to promote their own interests to the exclusion of all else and all others.

Moreover, the rebirth of the Jewish State presented the Jews with countless ethical dilemmas which they typically resolved by adhering uncritically to Tel-Aviv’s official line. This often brought them into direct conflict with their governments and non-Jewish compatriots and enhanced their reputation as untrustworthy and treacherous.

Hence the Jewish propensity to infiltrate decision-making centers, such as politics and the media. Their aim is to minimize conflicts of interests by transforming their peculiar concerns and preferences into official, if not always consensual, policy. This viral hijacking of the host country’s agenda is particularly evident in the United States where the interest of Jewry and of the only superpower have become inextricable.

It is a fact - not a rant - that Jews are over-represented in certain, influential, professions (in banking, finance, the media, politics, the film industry, publishing, science, the humanities, etc.). This is partly the result of their emphases on education and social upward mobility. But it is also due to the tendency of well-placed Jews to promote their brethren and provide them with privileged access to opportunities, funding, and jobs.

I agree with this dialog and I WISH Adolf Hitler succeeded, if he had this place would be a much better one.

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Posted by Paul on February 24, 2012, 10:25 PM | #

Finally, a site that has educated discussions on this topic. I live in Seattle, Washington in the States.

I’ve had a real change of heart lately in how I feel about Jews. Seeing the economic devastation Goldman and Sachs is creating everywhere has me absolutely livid. They are Jews.  I personally suffered when the housing bubble popped because of their powerful influence.

Matt Tabbi’s article in Rolling stone on April 5th 2010 states “The world’s most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money. In fact, the history of the recent financial crisis, which doubles as a history of the rapid decline and fall of the suddenly swindled dry American empire, reads like a Who’s Who of Goldman Sachs graduates.”

With this and other articles I found accidentally doing research for a documentary I doing, I began asking myself a difficult question: “was Hitler right about the Jews?” I really don’t know but I want to. But once I do, there will be no turning back. Among the information I discovered is that just about every idea, technology, invention ever conceived in Nazi Germany has been adopted by the United States. 

I need to read the rest of the comments here to really begin to form an opinion. Once I do there will be no turning back. WW2 was way before my time and this is a great resource for study and to find out what I really believe. Some of you are very great writers.

If you can recommend any other resources I would appreciate it.

Paul
Seattle,Wa

 

 

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405#ixzz1nMI5Amms

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Posted by Barry on February 26, 2012, 05:57 AM | #

i dont know much about jewish folk. in fact i see anyone that thinks praying to god will change their lives at all, is a bit loony tunes.

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Posted by Bharati Narayan on March 09, 2012, 02:40 AM | #

a very good and thorough explanation of Hitler. And his times .

But whatever Hitler did was completely wrong. Killing humans is selfishness. When God created everyone, he didnt differentiate them in basic of races. he created men not to fight with each other, but to co-operate.


I will like to critizise the western nations, except Germany. i have a strong belief that Nato Nations are the most selfish nations in the world. They say about Asians that they don’t share resources together, but infact atlantic countries wanted to use imperialism as the tool to capture the resources of the world’s local population which is not just wrong but completely unjustified.

Germans rose to the no1. power at the world war2. just think, if hitler had captured the atomic technology, he could have enslaved the whole world, and it would be like the west is doing now.

what the west does now is just an addition to what hitler did and nothing else.


about U.S and Europe(Including Stalin’s USSR) I would say they no single one liked jews. they forced jews to go to Israel, forced the locals to go out of their motherland(which was their home for 2000 years), they made arrangements such that jews would go into a fight with the palestinians and eventually end up..


unfortunately, this is still going:(

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Posted by Sudipto Bhakta on March 10, 2012, 09:06 AM | #

I will just share my views on that part which reflects upon the question: Why did the Germans so heartily supported the Nazis?

I am an Indian, and I live in West Bengal. I am called a Bengali. However, there is one third of the population who are called Bangal (from Bangladesh). Trust me, if there was a leader in India who would be calling a spade a spade about these Bangals….these people will be butchered.

Whenever, an entire population becomes anti-Semitic, it would be good for us to really think objectively of the phenomenon, because there must be something behind this mass hysteria. Trust me, if non-Jews (majority) of USA are to be asked, they will emphatically want the Jews to be driven out.

I have seen, this mass hatred towards a race is a complex function of their social behavior, predisposition to social injustice, a morbid love to accumulate money, and a tendency to manipulate. Someday, these things come back to haunt the entire race.

In Germany, you could pin-point a person called Hitler, an institution called Nazis, and a victimized race that had religious affiliation (Jews)....so a good story was there for people to enjoy, get thrilled, and to comment upon. However, same events happened in French revolution, and the Bolshevik revolution, with even more horrific stories to tell. Difference- USA and UK were not involved.

So far as the Jews are concerned, a couple of things flummox me-
1. Why do they have to be so fanatic about arm twisting everybody to merely mention the name of Hitler? What is their fear.
2. Wherever they are in power, why are they following Hitler’s methods? At least Hitler was mad…but what makes these Jews react in this fashion?
3. Why in every place that Jews co-exist with other inhabitants, those inhabitants hate the Jews (irrespective of place, culture or skin color.

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Posted by Jim Backus on March 14, 2012, 05:28 PM | #

My father in-law was a Jew.  I good man.  Dedicated to his family, into which I married.  I love my wife for all her wonders and faults.

My father in-law taught me many things, mostly through observation.  He worked hard all his life, usually working more than one job, to provide for his family.  He did not achieve wealth.  Instead, he paid his bills, treated people very well, and was responsible for himself and his family.

He (Dad) did not go to Synagogue.  He did not keep practice Jewish holidays, althought I believe he struggled with understanding the history of Hebrews.  Dad served in the Armed Forces during WWII, although he never discussed his actions, duties, etc.  He was decorated, but these decorations were not known to his friends until after his funeral.

Since his passing, I have tried to understand my father in-law and other Jews!

What I have found is simple.  Some Jews are wonderful people, just like my father in-law.  Some Jews are a pain in the ass, just like some of my family members.

If we take the time to look at things clearly, people, come in all types, regardless of their ancestory. 

God said it best (please forgive if I got the quotation wrong) Judge not, least you shall be judged!.  I still have tremendous problems with this one.  I tend to judge and later regret my lack of judgement.

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Posted by ASIF on March 23, 2012, 07:33 AM | #

HN.HITTLER was right against jews.these will because of coming 3rd world war and was these were cause of both 1 & 2 world war

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Posted by Big Dog on March 28, 2012, 12:03 PM | #

Barry, you have a LOT of nerve to run your mouth about someone’s religion and if you was here right now, I would beat your ass.

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Posted by Fishmonger on April 01, 2012, 04:00 PM | #

Here’s the problem with this:  - not all bankers are Jews, and not all Jews are bankers.  These criticisms are valid, but the confusion is in blaming Jews and not the capitalist system.  (I am a capitalist, btw, but see it’s inherent problems).  It’s all too easy to “personify” the problems by assigning them to a people.

But, one may say, a larger percentage of the infamous “1%” (as in “Occupy NY”) is Jewish - at least as far as one can guess by looking at the names on the list of the most wealthy people in the world.  Why would this be?

Well, historically, Christians were not permitted to charge interest via Catholic Church degree.  Jews were exempt from these laws, which kinda forced their hand into banking and like industries.

Think, folks, before you jump on a bandwagon that has resulted in a lot of injustice.  Whether it was 2 million or 6 million, we’re less than a century away from the largest mass murder in history.  The underlying passions that lead to anti-antisemitism start with ignorance.

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Posted by Alla on April 09, 2012, 01:58 PM | #

To all who deny Holocost calling it a myth:

American president Dwight D Eisenhower knew that people like you who deny that Holocost ever happened stated and i quote his famous statement “Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses – because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
He was a great war hero and a wonderful president.  He personaly saw concentration camps and dead bodies, gas chambers. 
By the way i work in a pharmaceutical company Sanofi (former Hoechst)  The german Hoechst AG produced cyclon B-gas for concentration camps.  You can full illiterate and ignorant people but not me.
What happened to millions of jews should not be forgotten or ignored.  The museum Yad Vashem in Israel and other jewish museums have plenty of documentaries, pictures, statements from victims and other materials which is enough for anybody to beleive that jews were really gassed, murdered, burned and burried alive(example: Babiy Yar in Ukraine where thousands of jewish women, children and elderlies-entire jewish population of Kiev was burried alive)  My father’s entire family was murdered and nobody knows how.  So don’t lie that holocost did not happen, it happened and there are gas chambers still standing in Dahau, still warm…
In regards to Lazar Kaganovich starving ukrainians is a total lie. If you want to blame someone, blame Joseph Stalin.  His goal wasn’t starving ukrainians, he wanted to get grain from peasants who were hiding it, refusing to give it to soviet government, planning to starve the entire country.  Stalin was in charge, not Kaganovich.  What about Molotov, Malenkov, Beriya?  How come you blame Kaganovich but not them and Stalin?  The entire soviet union was starving in 30s not just ukrainians, my jewish family was starving too.  Russians were starving and muslims. 
The truth should be told….

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Posted by Emilie on April 23, 2012, 07:03 PM | #

This is great information… where did you get it from?

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Posted by Pip Power on April 27, 2012, 10:07 AM | #

“Abtreibungen macht frei”!

JEWISH RUN ABORTION CAMPS

Abortion: The Kosher Slaughter
By Jayne Gardener

Who drives the abortion industry in the United States? Want to hazard a guess?

If you said that the main movers and shakers behind the pro-abortion movement in the U.S. are Jews, you win the grand prize.
While there are, of course, pro-life Jews who are disturbed by the abortion rates in both the United States and Israel, I would venture to say that they are certainly in the minority, especially in the U.S. Their low regard for Gentile life at any stage of development is reflected in the number of abortions performed by Jewish doctors (about half of all abortion providers are Jewish) [1] in Jewish owned “women’s clinics” (about a half of all such clinics are owned by Jews)[2] which is way out of proportion when you consider what a small percentage of our population Jews comprise.

Various people have commented publicly about the disproportionate number of Jews in the abortion rights movement. For instance, Kenneth Mitzner, founder of an organization entitled The Pro-life League Against Neo-Hitlerism said:

“It is tragic but demonstrably true that most of the leaders of the pro-abortion movement are of Jewish extraction.” [3]

First, let’s take a look at the Talmudic view on abortion. The Mishnah, comprising the first part of the Talmud, provides a source for understanding the Jewish position which assumes that life arises only at birth which is when they believe that ensoulment takes place. So long as the fetus, or the most important part of it, its head, has not come out into the world, it is not called nefresh (a human soul) and therefore an unborn fetus is not to be considered a living being until birth.
The old testament, in Exodus 21:22-23 shows us that the Jews did not regard unborn lives as human beings as reflected in the laws during that period:

“If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.”

“Literally and by interpretation, this passage poses the basic legal principal that the destruction of the fetus is not to be considered punishable murder. Death of the unborn child is punishable by fine only, and capital punishment does not apply. Only if the mother is harmed, i.e. killed, does the law of capital punishment take effect.” [4]

Clearly, the Jewish Talmudic view on abortion is a disturbing one since if a fetus is not considered a living being until birth it can only mean that Talmudic Jews would have no problem with abortion at any stage of gestation for any reason, up until birth. It is unarguable that a fetus is a living being and it is abhorrent to think that pro-abortion Jews would be fine with the destruction of a healthy, viable fetus no matter how late in pregnancy the abortion would take place.
Abortion has pretty wide support among Jews in this country and various Jewish organizations in the U.S. are openly and unashamedly pro abortion, organizations such as:

American Jewish Committee
American Jewish Congress
B’nai B’rith Women
Central Conference of American Rabbis [Reform]
Federation of Reconstructionist Congregations
Hadassah Women
Jewish Labor Committee
Na’amat USA
National Federation of Temple Sisterhoods [Reform]
National Council of Jewish Women
New Jewish Agenda
North American Temple Youth
Rabbinical Assembly Union of American Hebrew Congregations [Reform]
United Synagogues of America [Conservative]
Women’s League for Conservative Judaism [5]

Many Jewish doctors as well as non-professional men and women are vastly overrepresented among American proponents of abortion on demand. Here is but a partial list:

“All four original organizers of the most influential group of abortion pushers in the United States — the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL) — were of Jewish birth, including now pro-life Dr. Bernard Nathanson.

Dr. Christopher Tietze worked for the Population Institute and International Planned Parenthood Federation, and did more to promote the worldwide slaughter of innocent unborn children than any other person.

Dr. Alan Guttmacher was president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America for more than a decade, founded Planned Parenthood Physicians, and did more than any other doctor to promote abortion in this country. He also advocated mandatory abortion and sterilization for certain groups in the United States.

Dr. Etienne-Emile Baulieu, inventor of the RU-486 abortion pill, was born in 1926 to a physician named Leon Blum. He changed his name in 1942.

Stanford professor Paul Ehrlich is the ‘father’ of the overpopulation myth. His ‘work,’ The Population Bomb, was the ‘spark’ that ignited the anti-natalist movement.

Lawrence Lader, (New York University professor and co-founder of NARAL) king of the abortion propagandists, has written several books crammed with fabrications and outright lies that have helped advance abortion all around the world… Lader was quoted 11 times in Roe v. Wade, because he had a message that the Justices wanted to hear. (In the same decision, testimony from the world’s leading fetologist, Dr. A. W. Liley, was totally ignored because it decisively undercut the Court’s decision)… Lader also founded Abortion Rights Mobilization (ARM), which sued the Internal Revenue Service in court in a failed attempt to get the tax-exempt status of the Catholic Church revoked for opposing abortion too effectively. He also was one of the leading proponents of the abortion pill RU-486.” [6]

The above mentioned Dr. Christopher Tietze, who died some years ago has left a legacy, albeit a somewhat distressing one. There is a Dr. Tietze Humanitarian Award from the National Abortion Federation which is awarded to doctors in the abortion industry for their contributions to, and advancement of, quality care in the abortion field.
Of course it isn’t only Jewish members of the medical profession leading the way. They have certainly been aided and abetted in their morbid cause by various legislators, especially state senators Anthony Bielenson in California and Albert Blumenthal in New York who were the leading proponents of legalized abortion in their respective states and in this country.

It is certainly a fact that there are other left wing organizations who are ardent supporters of abortion on demand which have large Jewish involvement, namely The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which has opposed most proposed bills to restrict access to abortion and Norman Lear’s organization, The People For The American Way, which stands firmly on the pro-abortion side.
Not surprisingly, even the Anti-Defamation League sits squarely and firmly on the pro-abortion side of the issue. On April 19th of 2007, the ADL publicly voiced its disappointment that the Supreme Court of the United States ruled to uphold the federal Partial Birth Abortion Act by saying:

“We are deeply troubled by the ramifications of the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. By upholding, for the first time, an abortion statute which contains no exception for the health of the woman, the Supreme Court has undermined a woman’s right to choose and to act in accordance with her conscience and the dictates of her faith. We continue to believe that Americans should have the freedom to make difficult decisions of conscience and health without government interference.” [7]

Abortion rights have pretty much become the litmus test for being an elected Democratic representative in this country as evidenced by the pro-abortion stance of Catholics like Sen. Ted Kennedy and others. “Of the 41 Jewish-born members of the U.S. Senate over the last 20 years, 32 (or 80 percent) have been stridently pro-abortion.” [8]
The radical feminist movement, headed by Jewish women like Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan, has been a staunch driving force behind the pro-abortion movement since its inception. Their disdain for families and imagined female oppression by men in this country and their belief that gender roles are a social construct and not innate has caused them to push for abortion as being the great equalizer, liberating women from their ‘oppressive’ role as mothers.
Simone Weil, former French health minister and Auschwitz survivor who led the drive to legalize abortion in France was quoted as saying:

“We are out to destroy the family. The best way to do that is by attacking it’s weakest member, the unborn child.” [9]

Kate Michaelman is another example. For many years, Michelman, president of Naral Prochoice America from 1985 to 2004, has been at the forefront of one of this country’s most contentious and divisive debates. Ever since Roe Vs Wade, NARAL Pro-Choice America, boasting in excess of one million members and supporters, has been the nation’s leading advocate for a “woman’s right to choose.”
NARAL actively supports the election of pro-abortion candidates through various political action committees. They are heavily invested in lobbying Congress to fight any anti-abortion legislation as well as supporting bills which would protect abortion rights and expand women’s access to “reproductive health care.”
The Lichter-Rothman (both Jewish by the way) study was officially suppressed and one can well imagine why. It’s information regarding members of the media and their proabortion stance was staggering, but not surprising. It’s findings?

“Leaders of the motion picture industry: 95% pro-abortion, 62% Jewish:
Leaders of the television industry: 97% pro-abortion, 59% Jewish:
Leaders of the news media industry: 90% pro-abortion, 23% Jewish.” [10]

Jewish groups are constantly involved in fund-raising efforts to keep abortion rights in the forefront, spending tens of millions of dollars to ensure that abortion remains legal. On February 28th, 1989, The American Jewish Congress ran a full page ad in the New York Times entitled Abortion And The Sacredness Of Life which cost them a staggering $30,000.

Securing the right to kill unborn children comes with a high price tag.
The press often gives pro-abortion Jews considerable coverage as well as considerable leeway. When Dr. Barnett Slepian (an abortion provider who was later shot to death by an anti-abortion activist) slugged a pro-life demonstrator over the head with a baseball bat (causing serious injury) for daring to picket his home, they not only demonstrated a double standard by excusing his behavior, they also claimed that he was targeted for picketing because he was Jewish and therefore the actions by pro-life proponents were anti-semitic.
Marilynn Buckham, an abortion clinic owner told the Buffalo News that the picketing of Slepian’s home was nothing short of religious persecution and attacked Christians for not respecting other people’s relgious beliefs. As a result of Slepian’s assault trial, the picketing of abortion provider’s homes in New York state was declared unlawful and subject to a $500.00 fine and 6 months imprisonment.
In Canada, the leading proponent of abortion is Dr. Henry Morgentaler, another concentration camp survivor who became one of Canada’s most proficient, prolific and notorious abortion providers who flaunted Canadian law and established illegal clinics in Canada where he performed abortions in direct opposition to Canadian law and for which security was provided by Canadian police. Morgentaler was once quoted as saying:

“It took me years to get rid of this image [of myself helpless in the concentration camps]. And to do that, it was absolutely necessary to oppose authority — whatever the authority may be.” [11]

It is a sad reality that Morgentaler has become somewhat of an icon in Canada, a man who is revered as being a champion for the rights of women. In 2005, Henry Morgentaler, at that time 82 years old, was given an honorary doctorate in law by the University of Western Ontario. Morgentaler spoke before the audience, saying he shared in the celebration of those receiving their degrees and told them that he believed that his work to make abortions safe and legal has “benefited society”, urging the graduates to stand up for their rights. Polls show that the vast majority of Canadians are pro-abortion and certainly many Canadians hold that view largely due to Henry Morgentaler’s influence.

And there you have it. Although it is absolutely factual that there is considerable gentile involvement in the abortion industry in this country there is certainly a disproportionate representation of Jews as proponents of abortion rights as well as Jews accounting for about half of all abortion providers and clinic owners; a staggering fact considering that Jews in this country comprise only about 2% of the population.

And why is this the case? Because they hate Gentiles and promote our destruction by any means at their disposal. Obviously there are Jews who oppose abortion but there are certainly many who not only condone it but push for it. And they not only push for it in the early stages of pregnancy but a lot of them have no qualms about abortions performed at any stage of pregnancy for reasons not encompassed by maternal risk or gross fetal abnormality. They are fine with it at any time for any reason.

 

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Posted by Pip Power on April 27, 2012, 10:11 AM | #

“Dr. Mengele’s Still Drumming”

See that baby in the corner?
Her life might not be so good!
I can tell she’ll be a problem…
That much, ma’am, is understood!
She’s not really quite a “person”;
Yes, we’re sure she’s unaware.
Her life may not be worth living…
Let’s “abort” and show we care.
She’s just not what we’d call “human”...
She’s not really at that stage.
“Cute” enough, but just not “with it”...
Unaware and disengaged.
She has no real moral standing…
Not just yet, and that’s the glitch!
She’s no diff’rent from a tomcat,
Or some tiny mongrel !@#$%.
We’ll decide for you what’s “human”...
When a “what” becomes a “who”!
On these shifting sands of reason,
Moral Law we may undo.
These things change, ma’am. Please don’t worry!
We know best about these things;
We’ve been schooled in Bio-Ethics,
Singing songs that Singer sings!
That’s the song of Peter Singer…
(Margaret Sanger sang it, too).
If that melody’s familiar,
Maybe you should ask the Jew.
That’s the downbeat of Eugenics,
Euthanasia’s Rhythm Band.
Dr. Mengele’s still drumming
Out there on that shifting sand.

“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teaching comes through hypocritical liars whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.” -The Apostle Paul (1Timothy 4: 1-2)

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“[N]ew-born humans are neither persons nor quasi-persons, and their destruction is in no way intrinsically wrong.” - Dr. Michael Tooley, Professor of Ethics , University of Colorado, President of the American Philosophical Society (2011-2012)

“Human babies are not born self-aware or capable of grasping their lives over time. They are not persons. Hence their lives would seem to be no more worthy of protection than the life of a fetus. “ -Dr. Peter Singer PhD, Professor of Bioethics, Princeton University

“After ruling our thoughts and our decisions about life and death for nearly two thousand years, the traditional Western ethic has collapsed.” -Dr. Peter Singer, PhD., Professor of Bioethics, Princeton University

Professor Andrea Zabel

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“People think monsters commit these crimes, so they must look like monsters,” Clingman said. “They don’t. They look like the guy next door.

“A lot of these mothers shack up with anybody and don’t give any thought to what they’re exposing their child to. Murders by strangers are very unusual. Most crimes against kids are by people who have easy access to them.”

Belazi said the cases “are very stressful and you feel the weight of them on your shoulders. My feeling is that people who harm children should never be given an opportunity to do that again. It’s an inexcusable crime.” Midland College Psychology Professor Andrea Zabel said the phenomenon may have animalistic origins.

“There are more step-dads and boyfriends who kill children,” she said.

“When biological fathers do it, they usually take everybody out. Some people look at it from an evolutionary perspective. When a female bear has a cub and is nursing it, she won’t copulate. If a male bear kills the cub, she will go into heat again and copulate with him.”

Dr. Zabel said women and children are victimized because they’re vulnerable. Sometimes it’s a matter of rage and previous abuse and that person can’t take it out on someone their own size,” she said.

Dear Andrea,

Can you please help me understand this terrible holocaust?

Larry

THE AMERICAN HOLOCAUST

What is the total number of legal abortions since 1973?
Since the legalization of abortion in 1973, there have been approximately 50 million abortions performed in the United States.
Source: Guttmacher Institute, 2011, August. Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States.
How many abortions are performed in the United States each year?
According to the Guttmacher Institute, there were 1.21 million abortions performed in the United States in 2008, the most recent year for which data is available. This amounts to 3,322 abortions per day.
Source: Jones, Rachel K. and Kathryn Kooistra. “Abortion Incidence and Access to Services in the United States, 2008.” Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health 43, no. 1 (2011, March): 41-50

What are the methods of abortion and at what stages of pregnancy are they used?
The following abortion methods are used regularly in the United States. Saline abortions are no longer performed.
• Suction Aspiration—6-12 weeks
• D & C (Dilation and Curettage)—6-12 weeks
• D & E (Dilation and Evacuation)—12-24 weeks
• D & X (Dilation and Extraction or Partial Birth Abortion)—24-36 weeks
• Prostaglandin or Live Birth Abortion—second or third trimester
• RU-486 (Early chemical abortion)—up to 56 days gestation
How is a Suction Aspiration abortion performed?
Suction aspiration, the most common abortion method, is typically performed when the fetus is 6-12 weeks, but can be used up to 16 weeks. The cervix is dilated, and a hollow plastic tube with a sharp tip is inserted into the cervix and then into the uterus. An aspirator attached to the tube tears the body of the fetus apart and suctions the pieces through the tube.
How is a D & C abortion performed?
A suction/D & C abortion is performed when the fetus is 6-12 weeks. The cervix is opened using an osmotic dilator. Then a curette (a thin metal rod with a knife-sharp loop at the end) is inserted into the uterus. The curette is used to dismember the fetus.
After this, a cannula (a hollow plastic tube) attached to a suction aspirator is inserted to remove the fetus, placenta and uterine lining. These are captured by a stockinet attached to the end of the suction tube.
To avoid the risk of infection or hemorrhaging, the contents of the stockinet are examined to be sure all fetal parts have been removed.
How is dilation and evacuation abortion (D & E) performed?
A D & E abortion is performed in the second trimester (12-24 weeks) and is usually a 2-3 day procedure. At this stage of pregnancy, the fetus’ tendons, muscles, and bones are more developed. The cervix has closed more tightly and must be dilated enough to remove the larger fetus.
To aid in cervical dilation, laminaria (dried seaweed sticks) are inserted into the cervix. The dilation process can take 1-2 days depending on the size of the fetus.
Once the cervix is sufficiently dilated, the laminaria are removed. Forceps are inserted into the uterus to forcibly dismember the fetus. The skull is then crushed and removed. A suction aspiration is then introduced to remove any remaining fetal parts, the placenta and uterine lining.
How is a partial birth abortion (D & X) performed?
The D & X abortion is used in late second and third trimesters (24-36 weeks). As with the D & E, the cervix must be dilated using laminaria.
Forceps are then introduced into the uterus to grasp the baby’s legs. The baby is delivered breech while the head remains inside the birth canal. Using blunt-tipped surgical scissors, the base of the skull is pierced and a suction catheter is inserted to extract the brain. This causes the skull to collapse and the dead baby is then fully delivered.
Sometimes, while the child is partially delivered and still alive, the organs are removed and sold for fetal tissue experimentation (an illegal practice).
How is a live birth abortion (prostaglandin) performed?
A Prostaglandin or Live Birth Abortion is done in the second or third trimester. Prostaglandins are naturally occurring chemical compounds which assist in the birthing process. For the abortion procedure, artificial prostaglandins are injected into the amniotic sac which induces violent labor and leads to the birth of a child usually too young to survive.
Often salt or another toxin is first injected to ensure that the baby will be delivered dead, since some babies have survived the trauma of a prostaglandin abortion and been born alive.
How is a chemical abortion (RU-486) performed?
RU-486 is a chemical (rather than a surgical) abortion, performed up to 49 days gestation. RU-486 requires at least three visits to the doctor’s office or clinic.
At the first visit, the woman is given a physical exam and is administered mifepristone. RU-486 blocks the action of progesterone, the natural hormone vital to maintaining the lining of the uterus. The embryo starves as the nutrient lining disintegrates.
At a second visit, 36-48 hours later, the woman is giving a dose of artificial prostaglandins, usually misoprostol, which initiate uterine contractions and usually cause the embryo to be expelled from the uterus. Most women abort during the four hour waiting period, but about 30% abort as many as five days later—at home, work, etc.
A third visit about 2 weeks later determines whether the abortion has occurred or if a surgical abortion is necessary to complete the procedure.
Dr. Martin Haskell giving a presentation at the 16th Annual Meeting of the National Abortion Federation Conference in 1992 in San Diego. It was a gathering of abortionists—men and women who make their living by killing babies. Haskell was describing to his audience how to do a partial-birth abortion. Listen to his words about how this procedure takes place:
“The surgeon then introduces large grasping forceps … through the vaginal and cervical canal …  He moves the tip of the instrument carefully towards the fetal lower extremities—and pulls the extremity into the vagina …The surgeon then uses his fingers to deliver the opposite lower extremity, then the torso, the shoulders, and the upper extremities. The skull lodges in the internal os.  The fetus is oriented … spine up … The surgeon then takes a pair of blunt curved Metzenbaum scissors in the right hand.  … the surgeon then forces the scissors into the base of the skull—spreads the scissors to enlarge the opening. The surgeon—surgeon then introduces a suction catheter into this hole and evacuates the skull contents.”
Haskell, having described these brutal details, shows his audience a video of himself doing one of these procedures. And at the end of the video, after the sound of the suction machine taking the brains out of the baby’s head, the audience applauds.
BABY BODY PARTS
Fetal tissue wholesalers are companies which place employees in abortion clinics to harvest tissue, limbs, organs, etc. from aborted babies. This material is then shipped to researchers working for universities, pharmaceutical companies and government agencies. Although it is against federal law to sell human tissue or body parts, these organizations have devised a system to circumvent this restriction. Technically, all fetal material they harvest is “donated” to them by the clinics. However, they do pay a “site fee” to the clinics for the right to access the tissue. The tissue is then “donated” to the researchers who in turn pay the wholesalers for the cost of retrieval. Profit is realized by the wholesalers’ ability to set their own retrieval fees.

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Posted by Leonardo de la Paor on April 27, 2012, 10:17 AM | #

The Holocaust As A Mechanism For Suppressing The Truth
By Louis Beam

Because of the incessant talk about a holocaust, that for the most part did not occur, the truth about a holocaust that did occur has been successfully suppressed since the end of World War II. Now suddenly, with the assumption of a new, democratically elected government in Austria, the horrible truth of the aftermath of World War II has finally broken into the front pages of newspapers throughout the world, with the call by the Austrian Freedom Party for compensation to those ethnic Germans who were expelled and murdered by Czechoslovakia at the end of WW II. For the very first time since 1945, a period encompassing the entire lives of most of those reading these words, the murder, expulsion, enslavement, and destruction of millions of ethnic Germans after the war ended is coming to light with a vengeance.1

This bloodthirsty and ruthless extermination of ethnic Germans is surpassed in magnitude and horror only by crimes of mass murder in the Soviet Union committed by Joseph Stalin against the people of the USSR. It was there, in the horrible gulags of Stalin and in the towns and villages of the Kulaks, that the single, largest mass murders of the twentieth century occurred. Not in Nazi Germany under Hitler, as so many of us have been falsely led to believe, but rather, under communism in the Soviet Union did blood flow so freely that it came to count for naught. Under the rulership of idealistic socialists, some 30 million human beings were put to death by Communist, homicidal butchers. Lest one think only communists and socialists are capable of such horrendous crimes against other human beings, let it be stated here, now, and forever, that the next greatest massacre of helpless humans occurred during that same period by the so called “democracies” of the United States, England, and France.

Indeed, it is now, and only now, that we find out that this second largest mass extermination of human beings in the 20th century did occur in what was formally the greater German Reich. But, the victims were not Jewish concentration camp inmates, and there were not six million murdered during a war, but rather the victims were 9.3 million German civilians and prisoners of war murdered by the Allies after Hitler was dead and after “peace” was declared.2 Such absolute shame and utter disgrace as this heaps upon the heads of the governments of the United States, England, and France-and were it still in existence-the Soviet Union, can scarcely be comprehended. This real holocaust cannot be denied. For, unlike the holocaust we all grew up hearing about, the numbers are not inflated. There were no soap bars made, nor lamp shades produced, only murder, more murder, and then the cover up of the twentieth century ensued.

Suppressing the knowledge of this post war genocide of over nine million defenseless, helpless, and prostate people for so long was no easy task. Those in government and the news media who did so knew that only by creating a lie so horrible that it would shake the very souls of decent men everywhere could the real terror story of mass murder and genocide by the Allies after the war be cleverly covered up. Thus, in the hearts of evil men, with blood dripping from their hands, were born the stories of Jews being made into soap and lamp shades, gas chambers disguised as showers for millions,3 and the black smoke of furnaces reaching toward the heavens from crematoria. In sum, a holocaust of lies was born…the one we all “know” about, but not one that actually occurred.

It needs to be pointed out that it is true that innocent Jews died by the thousands at the hands of Nazis, just as other innocent people died by the thousands at the hands of the Allies at Dresden, Hiroshima, and elsewhere  DURING THE WAR. However, the massive lies with intent to cover up crimes against humanity committed by the Allies begins with the fabrication of the magnitude of Jewish deaths as well as the method of death. The number of Jews killed during the war were inflated not by thousands, but by millions. The fiendish descriptions of German soap factories, lamp shades, and “death camps” during the war were for the purpose of covering up the real holocaust going on after the war ended, creating such enmity and hatred toward the German people that their murder by the millions would go unnoticed, unreported, and unlamented by the world.4 And thus it has been till this day. The lampshades, the soap, the gas chambers were all to cover up the real holocaust: After the unconditional surrender of Germany, 9.3 million people were killed by the victors…deliberately.5 Dwight D. Eisenhower ran prisoner of war camps where well over one million German men who had laid down their arms were starved to death.6Then to crown this horrific crime by the allies, another 15 million Germans were expelled from their homes in East Prussia, Pomerania, Sudetenland, Silesia, and elsewhere. The most massive ethnic cleansing of the century led by the United States.

The deaths of millions in the years after the German surrender can no longer be covered up, nor hidden by distractions. This must be called by what it is: The Real Holocaust.

With the election of the Freedom Party in Austria the truth will become a topic for discussion for the first time in fifty-five years. And this is what terrifies the Western governments of the world. This is the reason for the frenetic opposition to the new government of Austria. The morality, the veracity, the very legitimacy of all those who helped promote the post war lies are now being brought into question. The assumption of power in Austria of those not committed to lies, cover-up, corruption, and historical falsehoods will shake the very foundations of post World War II history, as well as the view of the modern, democratic states toward themselves. The time for truth has finally arrived and let no honest man fear its words.

Let those harboring hatred or ignorance not rejoice or dismiss the deaths of any helpless and innocent people. For all of history shows that human cruelty toward one’s fellow man is a sharp, two edge sword that will cut both ways. Today it may be one’s enemies who are unmercifully persecuted or murdered, but tomorrow it may be your own loved ones. The genocide of human beings is the product of sick minds.7 Healthy men must meet this act head on with absolute repulsion and join together in exposing those guilty of such crimes. It must be remembered that only by insuring the safety of all men do we insure our own. Finally, those of us living in the United States, England, and France must come to terms with and recognize that those in government and media whose ghoulish acts of fabrication and malicious lying hid the truth about the real holocaust for fifty years in order to cover crimes too horrible to reveal are the promoters of “humanitarian” wars today, and have no moral authority over decent men. Their cries for troops mean broken hearts, their guns mean death, and their bombs for “peace and stability” mean destruction of innocent lives, so they must be soundly rejected and their perfidious lying laced with self-righteous hypocrisy shunned.

The election in Austria signals the end for lies of the “holocaust.” Conversely, it signals the beginning of truth and knowledge about the real holocaust of 9.3 million women, children, and men of German decent. There must be no more holocaust denial. Only by forthrightly facing this tremendous crime committed by the so called “democratic” nations and their communist allies against the defeated German survivors of World War II can we even begin to compensate for the lives destroyed as well as to insure such an event never happens again. Let us now begin discussion about The Holocaust and by doing so, build a better future for all of us.
A new and unforeseen weapon came into play at Hamburg—the firestorm. Martin Middlebrook describes one in The Battle of Hamburg. A thermal column of wind generated heat in excess of 1,400 degrees Fahrenheit, melting trolley windows and the asphalt in streets, the wind uprooting trees. When people crossed a street, their feet stuck in the melted asphalt; they tried to extricate themselves with their hands, only to find them stuck as well. They remained on all fours screaming. Small children lay like “fried eels” on the pavement. The firestorm sucked all the oxygen out of the city; a 15 year-old girl said that the brains of people in shelters “tumbled from their burst temples and their insides [extruded] from the soft parts under the ribs.”
Foot Notes:
1 Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950. By James Bacque.
2 Senator Kenneth Wherry, statement of January 1946: “The American people should know once and for all that as a result of this government’s official policy they are being made…accomplices in the crime of mass starvation…Germany is the only nation subjected to a deliberate starvation policy…”
3 Auschwitz: The Final Count. The Barnes Review, September/October 1999. www.barnesreview.org
4 Bury My Heart At Wounded Berlin. By Michael A. Hoffman II. Revisionist History, No.3 1997. www.hoffman-info.com/
5 A Terrible Revenge. By Alfred de Zayas
6 Other Loses. By James Basque. 1989.
7 An Eye for an Eye. John Sack. 1995.

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Posted by Ben on May 08, 2012, 12:13 AM | #

Well, the answer is not here! Nor the bottom line of his doctrine about Jews . The answer is more prosaic and obviously eluded here in an redundant exercice de style.

He hate the Jews because of their domination over the economics, their ability to modulate a country’s destiny and name it…

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Posted by Stephen on May 21, 2012, 06:33 PM | #

My school education on WWII was as you expext one sided, history is writen by the winners. I believe history will prove Hitler was right about the destuctive nature of zionism. Isreal to this day is protected and funded by Britian and America. It is my unproved claim that Mossad were in some way resposible for 9/11. The five dancing Isrealis spings to mind. The International banking system is robbing as the media scare mongers untold debt through countless wars in the middle east on the average man. I do not want another war in Europe, but I fear the powers that be will resort to this to keep the status quo. There is a coming finacial crash that will take us to the brink.

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