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Public Schools, Cash is Trash, and the New World OrderHaving learned of the Russian and Chinese educational systems from first hand accounts of family and friends, and comparing what I learned from my own daughter’s American public school experience, I am continually shocked at how much Americans are purposely intellectually hobbled. For example, in math class, they were going over polynomial division for a week, and my kid still didn’t get it. When I sat down with her, it took all of 5 minutes to get it. They give them assignments to factor quadratic equations, without telling them that a quadratic equation is a parabola, and what it means to find the x zeroes and y zeroes, and that a negative parabola is upside down, and a parabola with a coefficient greater than one is a thin parabola and with a coefficient less than one is a fat parabola, and shifting left and right and up and down. Some of the kids wouldn’t care, but some would, and they make no effort to sift out the most enthusiastic and perceptive kids and put them in a class together. I remember a “gifted and talented” track from my elementary school in the 1970’s, but those things got squelched. The culture of mediocrity has also hit the private schools. The children of the elite weren’t safe from the mess their parents created. This is why a new White American ruling elite can be bred in the homeschooling movement. The field is wide open. The elites are hoping to train the Chinese for the position, but even if all the professors and bureaucrats become Chinese people, the White Americans will still be the ones who come up with new ideas. And a competent early education provides the foundation for taking great ideas and implementing them, or getting them implemented with some help. And what I mean by a competent early education is the sort of education that Henry Ford had; practical, mathematic, scientific, technical.
He may have “despised” farm work, but growing up doing farmwork cultivates the intelligence because it is a constant process problem-solving and planning. Moreover, the farm should be looked at as “biological engineering,” using knowledge of animal welfare and soil and plant health and the means of testing and measuring both, to optimize yields, and also “process engineering,” to maximize nutrient recycling, minimize the need for outside inputs, and reduce human labor without adding outside energy. For example, to let pigs “rototill” a garden rather than a rototiller machine. A pig farmer could even hire out his pigs to “rototill” peoples gardens, so long as he had a good way to temporarily but securely fence them in. Maybe a really strong version of “invisible fence” that dogs have. The farmers of the past did not have as much access to scientific and engineering knowledge or even that process of thinking. It was largely done as you learned from your father, and he learned from his, and of course they did figure out a lot of things. However, when the technological revolution came, a lot less people did farming. So we have a blind spot—we don’t have a pool of engineering minded people developing optimal and sustainable food production. Lots of people developing cell phone apps, not too many people figuring out how to make a positive EROEI (energy returned on energy invested) farm that needs only sunlight and soil and water to export energy. And it’s all because we were herded off the farms and into offices. Imagine if you went around to farmers in 1890 and tried to compel them into “diversity training?” Take the great grandkids of those farmers and you got your Negro-worshipping football fan office workers who may chafe at diversity training, but dutifully go through the motions like a church service that one doesn’t believe in, but must sit through regularly. It’s quite cowardly and dishonorable, but they’ve been bought off by cheap gasoline and cheap food. One last aspect of the modern education system; there is a fashionable idea that “one can’t know anything.” Robert Anton Wilson, who appears to be a writer for the ruling elites, promotes a “model agnosticism,” which I will quote below:
I remember this viewpoint being pushed along with political correctness. When I tried to debate against PC in the 1990’s, the liberal students and even the professors would say, “well you can’t be right because you can’t know anything anyway, it’s impossible to have any certitude.” But these people have their own beliefs and certitudes, so how can they say I’m wrong? It’s a very interesting MindWeapon meme used by pointy-headed professors and pretentious liberal snobs and scolds. The anti-belief ideology has permeated the masses via popular culture. It leads to apathy, low level despair, and a focus on the next meal, the next videogame, the next drink, the next high or the next orgasm. People don’t believe they can or should bother to do anything; people who would otherwise likely have been lifelong contributors to their community. The model agnosticism meme is the MindWeapon of the ruline elites/illuminati/New World Order/Tribe of Thieves. It’s vanguard are professors of humanities. And all we have to do to defeat it, is to actively do the opposite on a mass scale. To have beliefs, and to take actions, and to biological and process engineering and from there re-engineer a local economy where we barter as much as possible. There is a pathetic attempt by the bankers and elites to force everyone into credit cards. They started a silly, Edwin Bernays type rhyme “cash is trash.” (funny I thought cash was king!). http://rt.com/news/terrorism-credit-cards-government-613/
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Posted by Leon Haller on January 08, 2012, 06:52 AM | # Feral negroids - another reason for US parents to get either their kids out of the communist schools, or else at least them and themselves out to the whiter ‘burbs: http://news.yahoo.com/7-teens-charged-beating-classmate-unconscious-174353443.html PS -Money is a great product of civilization, and a vital component of the further advance of civilization. The problem today is that it is backed by nothing (no real, tangible commodity, like gold). “Barter” would be utterly ruinous of living standards; indeed, its return would lead to mass impoverishment, followed by civil strife or war, and finally foreign invasion/colonization (a ‘barterous’ society would not be able to produce high technology, and thus resist foreign state aggression). A more interesting article would begin the long conversation of seeking to uncover the basic components of civilization, and how PC and racial integration are regressive practices. 4
Posted by Jimmy Marr on January 08, 2012, 09:08 AM | #
Yes, they most certainly do. To believe that mankind is incapable of accurately modeling the Absolute is, in fact, an absolutist perspective. Believing, on the other hand, that such models are relativistic or allegorical with the respect to the Absolute, obviates the need to treat any model as universally true, and therefore opens the liberal zeitgeist to vulnerability to the arising of particularistic (race specific) religions. In a world where pigs rototill, will not the sons of men create gods? 5
Posted by Søren Renner on January 08, 2012, 09:50 AM | # http://fincalunanueva.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/pig_equipment_tiller300.jpg 6
Posted by danielj on January 08, 2012, 10:49 AM | # Feral negroids - another reason for US parents to get either their kids out of the communist schools, or else at least them and themselves out to the whiter ‘burbs: Sure no problem. They can do that and establish Zion in their spare time. 7
Posted by danielj on January 08, 2012, 10:49 AM | # Until you have some kids, you should keep your fucking mouth shut about raising them. 8
Posted by CS on January 08, 2012, 11:32 AM | # They can move and there is nothing to stop the negroids from following. Move enough WN to a small enough country and we can stop the negroids from following us. 9
Posted by lolzlzlz on January 08, 2012, 02:32 PM | #
KEEP SPENDING!!! 10
Posted by Lomtick on January 08, 2012, 08:57 PM | # “They can move and there is nothing to stop the negroids from following. Move enough WN to a small enough country and we can stop the negroids from following us.” A small WN nation had better be heavily armed and armored, down to the kids. 11
Posted by J Richards on January 09, 2012, 01:25 AM | # Haller @3 If you can come up with why basing money on a commodity is a sound form of money, in your own words, you may have an argument. Merely repeating the assertion is simply propaganda… spare us this propaganda. Again, your argument needs to be in your own words. Don’t waste time citing history as the past didn’t have the nature and size of the modern economy. If you bring in market choice, it’d be an easy matter to cite literature showing that in recent centuries, whenever a gold standard has been established, it has been forced upon the public, never voluntarily adopted by the people. If you can explain how money based on a commodity could be expanded to accommodate increases in population size and commerce, that would be something. If you can show how the value of the commodity could be held constant, that would also be something. If you can explain how the current trillions in debt could be taken care of by switching to commodity money, you have something worth reading. If you can’t come up with the justification, stop promoting a commodity standard. 12
Posted by John on January 09, 2012, 03:51 AM | # “If you can come up with why basing money on a commodity is a sound form of money, in your own words, you may have an argument. Merely repeating the assertion is simply propaganda… spare us this propaganda.” Mr. “Free Market” is against a free market (for “practical reasons”, mind you) in the most important resource there is. No doubt he sees nothing wrong with the red and pink marketeers who made their rent-seeking income in part from capturing regulators and would do nothing to correct and everything to protect the resulting imbalances and would recoil at a debt jubilee just as much as he 13
Posted by CS on January 09, 2012, 10:11 AM | # The main reason gold is sound money is that gold can’t be created in unlimited amounts by government to pay bills like fiat currencies. I’m pretty sure it’s also not possible the rack up the huge amounts of debt we have now and the possibility of a deflationary collapse is also avoided. I recommend all our people put some money into physical silver as silver has a history of also being as money and might explode in price as physical shortages appear in the future. 14
Posted by Just-So on January 09, 2012, 04:33 PM | # We have one recourse that can not be delayed. We need more bodies. We are being overrun numbers wise and forming small enclaves will not be enough to preserve us. I do not need to give examples. 15
Posted by CS on January 09, 2012, 04:59 PM | # There are already plenty of white people. The problem is most of them are brain dead liberals as a result of the hostile environment they are in. We need to create a Whitopia on a national scale so we have more control over the enviornment we and our kids live in. 16
Posted by danielj on January 09, 2012, 07:00 PM | # There are already plenty of white people. For what exactly? This isn’t the case globally in absolute or relative terms and certainly not the case in almost any country I can think of. 17
Posted by CS on January 09, 2012, 08:23 PM | # The UK is like 90% white. The problem is that most of those whites are fucking idiots who don’t vote BNP or someone like them. We need to separate from these idiot whites as much as we need to separate from negroids. BTW, if you have a better idea than starting Whitopia is some small country now would be a good time to share it. 18
Posted by SHTF on January 09, 2012, 11:01 PM | # Having silver about would seem to be good “small change.” Don’t know how I’d have anyone be able to break up my Kruggerands when I purchased something a SHTF type of situation. I buy Canadian Maple leaves on a regular basis (along with ammo and other stuff that keeps a long time and is useful) for whatever it is worth. My $0.02… 19
Posted by danielj on January 10, 2012, 12:02 AM | # The UK is like 90% white. The problem is that most of those whites are fucking idiots who don’t vote BNP or someone like them. Then I repeat the question again to you: enough Whites for what? We need to separate from these idiot whites as much as we need to separate from negroids. I guess. I think we need to convert them. BTW, if you have a better idea than starting Whitopia is some small country now would be a good time to share it. I think the broad contours of American White Nationalism are already essentially agreed upon by a majority of us. I’m working on an essay right now that addresses our situation in great depth but also what I see happening in Europe. No plans for taking over a small country. However, that isn’t to say I disagree with your idea. I just don’t think it is feasible. You can still try. My fears stem from the various independence or secession movements that have already existed in this country for some time and still don’t have any traction. It is just a non-starter as far as I’m concerned. I’ve also said that fixity of place is really important and I truly believe that it is for a majority of us. There is something a little strange (and “unorganic” to use that dreaded term) about the kind of mass immigration you are proposing and the idea fills me with great reservation. There are plenty of very tiny European countries. I’m not sure how hard they are to get into. You are more than welcome to try to set something up. You have my blessing despite my concerns. Daniel Antinora isn’t holding you back brah. 20
Posted by CS on January 10, 2012, 05:57 AM | # The Whitopia model is sort of based on what people who were persecuted for their religion did way back when and what they did is leave. In a sense what we are are religous heretics who don’t believe in the BS of racial equality and multiculturalism. And while it is good to convert people to our side I don’t think we’re going to be able to convert enough of them to change things in our own countries. 21
Posted by danielj on January 10, 2012, 06:09 AM | # The Whitopia model is sort of based on what people who were persecuted for their religion did way back when and what they did is leave. In a sense what we are are religous heretics who don’t believe in the BS of racial equality and multiculturalism. The conditions were a little different. And while it is good to convert people to our side I don’t think we’re going to be able to convert enough of them to change things in our own countries. And now you are beginning to see why radical despair is the only option. It is this way in every country and ZOG has extremely powerful, far-reaching tentacles. The hegemony is total. It is only once we have lost everything that we are free to do anything. The longer the graybeards clutch with frantic zealotry to their every-declining-in-value pensions the longer we will be prevented from affecting change. Radicalism is the only option. Leon Incorporated only cares about one thing and that’s money but he is just a more honest member of the graybeard faction. They all turned their backs on their posterity and ancestors for a little bit of cheap energy and easy living and they want a bailout. I say fuck no. 22
Posted by danielj on January 10, 2012, 06:11 AM | # Go and learn what this means Son: the entropy of the universe tends toward a maximum… 23
Posted by Leon Haller on January 10, 2012, 06:32 AM | #
Could there be greater untruth? Why do I spend money studying ideas (instead of continuing to earn wealth)?! How old are you danielj? I wonder if this “graybeard” (at what age does one become such a “beard”?) couldn’t kick your ass in a whole slew of physical (let alone cognitive) tasks and challenges .... Certainly my beard is less gray than Jimmy’s or GW’s ...
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Posted by danielj on January 10, 2012, 06:54 AM | # Could there be greater untruth? Why do I spend money studying ideas (instead of continuing to earn wealth)?! What ideas? The ideas of filthy kikes? You spend your money where it shouldn’t be spent. You invest in the aether. Leon I beseech you to instead spend your seed inside a White woman and invest where it matters most. Besides, you should refrain from melodrama as it makes you sound more feminine than we already know you to be. What money? Everybody knows that practically every libertarian text is online and widely available for free because that is about all they are worth. Regardless, you’re welcome to come up to my place at any time Leon. I’ll be back Thursday evening and have the whole weekend unscheduled. If words seem to fail you at that critical juncture after our meeting as comrades and your more than hospitable reception (after all, is it not life from the dead?!) you are more than welcome to step in the garage for a friendly brawl. I’ll warn you now that I don’t spend my days studying Leon. I’m quite fit and I’ve had the shit kicked out of me enough times to know you never have and it would certainly do you good. The only difference between you and me is that I’m not afraid to fail. I’m more afraid to wind up like you have never having tried at all. Better yet, I can stop by your place on the way to Long Beach this weekend and give you the punishment you deserve. In case you missed it, nobody believes you are a graybeard. We (those of us who are real) all think you are a mid-twenty something nobody who is lying about almost everything you say. You’re a fraud and we all know it. How old are you danielj? All you have to do is facebook “Daniel Antinora” to find out Leon. We all know you won’t do that though. I wonder if this “graybeard” (at what age does one become such a “beard”?) couldn’t kick your ass in a whole slew of physical (let alone cognitive) tasks and challenges .... Cognitive tasks! Ha! You’re so hilarious. Like what? Remembering a string of numbers nine long? Differential calculus? Would you care to take an IQ test together? How about the cognitive task of ejaculating inside a woman? You’ve got it so twisted… I’m an electrical lineman Leon. My job is almost a perfect combination for simultaneously testing wit and brawn. You’ve got to be able to climb a fifty-footer in spurs and remember your electrical theory at the same time. I’m a man completely satisfied with his manhood. You are the only one on this form who needs to prove yourself. You’ve achieved nothing of substance. 25
Posted by Anon on January 10, 2012, 07:18 AM | # The dumbing down of mainstream society means that the field is WIDE OPEN for a nationalist elite to take over. It’s there for the taking - all we have to do is reach out and take what is rightfully ours. Breeding a future nationalist elite of superhumans should be the #1 long term aim of the nationalist community. How will this be done? By a technique called “gene capture”. Gene capture is when a smaller group (ie the nationalist community) “captures” the best and brightest genes from mainstream society. This is done by using a “temptress” who seduces a man with high quality DNA. She “captures” his HQ DNA into her womb and then takes it off back to her smaller community, where that community is then enriched with that high quality DNA. Repeat the process. Can you imagine what the nationalist community would be like if the next generation of nationalist leaders were all genius level IQ? We would claim victory with ease, especially when the rest of society is so dumbed down. How to communicate this idea to the wider nationalist community? Through the medium of a thrilling fictional story. (White people love fictional stories.) Imagine a script from a Hollywood movie: One of the world’s leading chess players has gone missing. It turns out he has been kidnapped by a gang of white supremacists. But the gang aren’t making any demands for his release; they don’t want to kill him, they don’t want him for his money. They want him for his DNA. Why? Because the gang of white supremacists have realized that if they want to rule over society, they will need to have some of the world’s most brilliant minds and strategic thinkers in their gang. They also realize that intelligence is largley genetic and that their gang members don’t quite have the DNA required to take them to the very top. They also realize that converting a large number of brilliant white minds to their cause is unlikely. Those brilliant white minds are too concerned with status and careers to ever voluntarily join the gang. So they have forumlated a cunning plan: They will fortify their white supremacist gang with the DNA of some of the world’s most brilliant white minds. So they have kidnapped this leading chess player and every day, they make him have sex with a different female member of their gang to impregnate her. This leading chess player will never get to see the children he has put inside the female members of the gang. He will never be able to indoctrinate them with liberalism. Instead, the children will be raised on the white supremacist’s isolated mountain base, far away from the influence of liberalism and MTV. They will be indoctrinated with loyalty to whites. They will be trained from birth to use their brilliant minds to help further the white cause - and sure enough, their minds are indeed brilliant, because they have the DNA from the leading chess player. They also have the DNA of the white supremacist gang members in them. They are a combination of white ethnocentrism and a brilliant mind. A combination that, in many generations time, will enable the gang to eventually rise to the top of society and steer it towards the white cause. The gang doesn’t just kidnap the chess player, they make sure to fortify their gang with the DNA from whites of all the talents. Such as high verbal ability lawyers, business men, financiers, leaders, sportsmen, warriors, scientists, artists, writers etc. They select the right mix of heritable talents to ensure their gang will rise to the top of society in several generations time. And finally of course, the male gang members make sure the future generations will have a rich supply of the ethno-centric gene, by providing that gene themselves. But life is not like a Hollywood movie. There is no white supremacist gang going round kidnapping talented whites and farming them for their DNA on a secret mountain base. Even if such a gang did exist, the kidnappings of highly talented whites would attract unwanted attention from the enemy. Thankfully, there is a more legal way. It turns out that it doesn’t take much to get a man to have sex with a woman. All you need is seductive white supremacist temptress to make advances on the man and he will soon give in to her demands. Especially if he thinks there will be no strings involved. The white supremacist woman doesn’t need the talented white man to hang around after the baby is born, possibly indocrinating it with liberalism. No, she just needs to get the man’s DNA and then she can return to her isolated white supremacist community and raise the baby there to be a loyal white advocate. Repeated over several generations, this DNA capture method will transform the white supremacist community into super humans, with skill levels far above that of wider society. They will naturally rise to the highest levels of society and victory will be inevitable. This is how the white race will be saved. 27
Posted by Liberal Heresy on January 10, 2012, 10:44 AM | # @Anon on January 10, 2012, 07:18 AM / 25 I think the temptress / slut angle might be a little hard to accomplish Anon! Reminds me of old erotic-horror plots, which is maybe why I thought about it for longer than I might otherwise. But, I do think it is fair to say that if the Repository for Germinal Choice had an advanced political and educative arm attached to it then we might well have been in a better position now. Social taboos are easily overcome or diminished within the family unit. If there was a PLE structure then there are a range of gene banks where embryos or sperm can be purchased; heck you can even find a surrogate to sit on the nest. Physiognomy can be chosen as can intelligence levels although Nobels are not available like they were with the RGC. Then I guess you have to factor regression to the mean and how you frame that project for the mental wellbeing of the child. But there are already a good number of high IQ folks within the tent, they tend to be backroom people in scientific endeavours rather than those suited to picking up the flag and running at the enemy. I feel that once the front room people make a reasonable enough showing of themselves then these people will feel more inclined to come forward or give veiled covert->overt support. 28
Posted by Liberal Heresy on January 10, 2012, 10:45 AM | #
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Posted by CS on January 10, 2012, 11:39 AM | # Assuming we had smart people on our side, what exactly what they do to help us obtain victory? We already have some smart people on our side. One thing we could do is run a WN in the Republican primary. Not with any hope of winning but simply getting the message out and getting people started on the road to conversion. You wouldn’t even have to run openly as a WN. Just run someone who will talk about stopping legal and illegal immigration, stop affirmative action etc. It worked with Ron Paul and his flawed political views. Just run someone who always votes the way we’d want them to on Capital Hill. Instead of the American Third Position which takes enormous resources just to get on the ballot and will be ignored anyway, run someone in the Republican primary which wouldn’t cost as much and get some attention. 30
Posted by danielj on January 10, 2012, 12:15 PM | # Assuming we had smart people on our side, what exactly what they do to help us obtain victory? We already have some smart people on our side. Ding ding! Tell him what he’s won! We have the smartest people on our side and what good has it done? What has standing upon the shoulders of giants and passing down the ancient wisdom done? Have we been able to stand in the gate and defeat a small band of Asiatic barbarians hell bent on destroying us and our civilization? Have been able to oust their co-conspirators? Rout the unscrupulous devils? Throw the money changers out of our racial temenos? All it took was a few power hungry, culturally nomadic wanderers to destroy the faith, deracinate an entire continent and leave a wasteland for an inheritance. Welcome to radical despair my friend. One thing we could do is run a WN in the Republican primary. Not with any hope of winning but simply getting the message out and getting people started on the road to conversion. You wouldn’t even have to run openly as a WN. Why not? Why not both? Why not have two candidates secretly collaborate to push the Overton window? Run a radical and the shadow of the radical! This is cheap, effective propaganda if done at the local level. I could run as the radical since I’m already deeply compromised, morally suspect and heavily tattooed. 31
Posted by Dasein on January 10, 2012, 01:07 PM | # Genius-level IQs aren’t sufficient or even necessary. Only 2 of the leading Nazis tested had (borderline) genius IQs (would not be surprised if Hitler and perhaps Himmler were higher than 141). http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/grady/nazi.html
I agree with this. NS had strong support among university students. Academics are often dismissed as wimps, but they can be politically ruthless. Tenured professors could be good targets for the nationalist pitch. I’ve thought in the past that if MR (or some unaffiliated group) could put together a quarterly PDF with several high quality articles, it could be mass distributed via e-mail. Getting addresses and escaping spam filters might be a problem, and I’m not sure about the legal issues involved. Lenin spent nearly 20 years in exile writing and distributing his political newsletter (Iskra, ‘The Spark’) and writing dry treatises on economic history directed at rival communist intellectuals. This was after there were already lots of political/economic unrest and assassinations. Like it or not, there is a lot of intellectual work that will be done before nationalists come to power. 32
Posted by CS on January 10, 2012, 01:08 PM | # Danielj, When the jews took over, they basically had zero opposition and unfortunately white people themselves are bascially aracial lemmings who don’t seem to mind having their countries flooded with racial aliens. Conservatives don’t even seem to mind having their countries flooded with racial aliens who are going to vote 100% against what conservatives want. There is just too few of us to get anything done politically. Whites are just going to have to take even more abuse before they might start thinking in racial terms and voting that way. And by then it’ll probably be too late. 33
Posted by CS on January 10, 2012, 01:13 PM | # Lenin had the advantage of some serious (jewish) financial backing and a country and opposition that was falling apart and open to Revolution. IIRC, a whole bunch of jews from America actually physically went to Russia to help out with the revolution. If America falls apart our enemies are probably prepared for that and aren’t going to be weakened any. All these attacks on civil rights are probably meant for us because they expect problems ahead. 34
Posted by Dan Dare on January 10, 2012, 03:01 PM | # Dasein, while agreeing with your general thrust, I found this remark a little puzzling:
I seem to recall reading just recently about a survey which indicated that 90-odd percent of British academics have liberal-leaning views, and would be surprised if the number were any different in the US. To some degree that might just be adopting protective coloration, but I should have it true in the whole.
In what respects might such a periodical need to differ from those already out there, e.g. TOQ, AmRen or the Salisbury Review, say? 35
Posted by danielj on January 10, 2012, 04:08 PM | # CS, You tell me when you think the Jews took over. 36
Posted by CS on January 10, 2012, 04:22 PM | # It depends where you’re talking about. America no later than 1917 when the Federal Reserve was put in. In Europe before that the jews created / took over the banking system. Why the fuck whites let them do that is beyond me. 37
Posted by dc on January 10, 2012, 04:44 PM | # I wish someone would attempt an in depth historical perspective to put me and people like CS straight. 38
Posted by Jimmy Marr on January 10, 2012, 06:01 PM | #
I’m interested in this question as well. I have suspicions that “White” royals, who should have been the guardians of White interests were/are no more identified with White genetic interests than the Jews with whom they collaborate(d). Horus the Avenger talks as if Whites have as much to fear from the European royal bloodlines as we do from Jewry itself, and it’s not as if there hasn’t been ample mixing of the former with the latter. Captcha = “try 88” 39
Posted by Leon Haller on January 10, 2012, 06:29 PM | # danielj,
I’m talking about the tens of thousands I’m spending on grad school at the moment - and that after giving up a job in finance where I had a six figure income (though I rarely made as much as you, which proves that WN street warrior types have gotten the economy they actually want, one where a twenty-something autodidact blue collar guy can make as much or more as someone with a dual UC MBA/JD). BTW, I find it interesting that on one of your blogs, Daniel Antinora, you have a link to Mises’s Human Action. I’m fairly certain you haven’t actually read it, but I applaud the intent. Oh, and I have a vast library of physical books. When I began their acquisition, there was no internet.
You certainly act like you do. Where do you find the time to study Christian theology, virtue ethics (I doubt you’ve read much MacIntyre, or possess the intellectual background to understand it), Third Reich history, genetic interests, etc? And raise a family, and make very good money in a bad economy, and travel around the country visiting WNs, etc? Something smells phony about you, whether you’ve ‘outed’ yourself on facebook or not (seriously busy people like me and my friends and former colleagues have very little time for “social media”, btw) ... I have many professional friends, men in their 40s and even 50s (actually, into their 70s in a few cases).[ I’m in my 40s, as anyone could tell from my commentary at MR over the years (eg, lots of references to things in the 70s and especially 80s).] Most of these guys work very, very hard, often in fairly elite positions (which occasionally even get their names mentioned in business sections of major newspapers). I have one friend, to take a single example, who used to manage a factory in Southern CA which has over a thousand employees. Now he is an executive VP (which is fairly high up in his company) with a different manufacturing company (a major one) in a different state, a project manager specializing in corporate acquisitions of smaller companies, mills, etc, in other states (he assesses the financial viability of proposed acquisitions). He is in his early 50s. This man went to a good (but not Ivy) university, spent a decade in the US Army, followed by a top ten or fifteen MBA and two decades in corporate management, including time spent as an adjunct professor in the business school of a state university back East. Recently, we were discussing investments, and he mentioned that he currently makes a little over 200k, which sounds about right, considering what he does and the low living costs where he’s based. I could discuss legions of other examples of real people in the real world. But, again, it is you, not I, who sounds like a phony. You see, young Daniel, I really am the age I claim (I wish I were in my twenties again!), and I really have the education I claim, and have done what I claim. Your story just doesn’t mesh with the world I’ve experienced.
You have no idea who I am or what my experiences have been, other than that I’m not of a blue-collar background. Don’t presume you do, simply because I can write effectively, and advocate a serious but mainstream approach to saving the white race. I’ve been in several club brawls, in the 80s and esp 90s. I got hit a number of times, but never did have the shit pounded out of me, I admit. Some have tried, though. For example, I once had to fend off a drunk asshole who physically attacked me outside a lonely way-off-the-Strip bar in Vegas (I don’t know why I bothered to stop there, by myself; I was a bit drunk, too, and my friends had already crashed for the night), in a surprise attack, which had him on top of me with my bomber jacket covering my head (which was actually lucky, even though I couldn’t see what was going on) doing a ground and pound before I hardly knew what was happening (fights happen fast, rarely go ‘by the book’, and get out of control quickly, Daniel, but being a tough guy, you know that, don’t you?). Fortunately, my flailing right fist connected with his face, I think, and immediately he jumped up, and was already 50 feet away and running fast, when I actually got my jacket off my head and saw him. I don’t claim to be a fighter, and as I age, I’ve discovered my pride is less easily tweaked, and that I prefer to let tensions get lowered without fisticuffs. I really don’t care about my personal honor, ‘space’, etc so much anymore (being immature - and yes, you are very immature, it’s very obvious to someone who is substantially older, despite the ‘knowing’ pose you pathetically adopt, as if it impresses a man like me - you may not understand that attitude, but as you age, you will). I weigh about 240lbs, a bit fat, but mostly not, a long time if moderate and irregular weightlifter (I don’t let the gym interfere with my life or fun, but I always return to it) and I can very well take care of myself. I’m also well-armed and proficient (and connected to lawyers and my local cops - in OC; right now I’m not even in CA, and I’m not armed, as I haven’t bothered to research this area’s gun laws). Your attempt to act like you could do anything to me or my home is risible and ridiculous. There is nothing you could do, at least without surprise.
I laugh, but why do I “deserve punishment”? What have I done to you?
I’m a fraud because, why? Because I have no interest in compromising my mainstream academic viability by associating with neo-Nazis (with whom I have basic moral and strategic disagreements anyway)? These are rather harsh words from you, indicative of why WNs get nowhere. WN really does attract a morally problematic crowd, with whom nice, normal white people want no contact. What is sad is that there is a huge core of neglected truth that only WNs will touch. Jared Taylor was exactly right. What is needed is a morally upstanding, behaviorally conventional movement of serious whites to develop common cause to preserve the West. Thugs and conspiracist looneys must be kept rigorously away. It is to that end that I am devoting my efforts.
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Posted by Liberal Heresy on January 10, 2012, 07:10 PM | # DC and My quick attempt at a thumbnail - it isn’t so hard to outline. Subversion enabling two world wars (scan read a couple of titles such as Reed’s The Controversy of Zion / later chapters of The New Unhappy Lords and some others) after WW2, near bankruptcy, the destruction of the Empire, the manoeuvring into Europe and the fact that in the upper elites socially and politically there was little table room for the politics of the hard right in the UK, or in fact, in any European country. If we also believe writers such as Carroll Quigley, our setting up of blood brotherhood groups for a global empire was also part of our downfall after it was corrupted. As was the debilitating morality adopted by much of the elite in the overconfident period of growth - Matthew Arnold over Herbert Spencer, say. Also, after 1911 our aristocrats were in a reduced position and were not inclined to pursue their theoretical role. 41
Posted by Liberal Heresy on January 10, 2012, 07:13 PM | # Poor joke, I think my memory might be failing on the TC gang. 42
Posted by danielj on January 10, 2012, 07:19 PM | # I’m talking about the tens of thousands I’m spending on grad school at the moment I know you douche. Jew poison. and that after giving up a job in finance where I had a six figure income Well that was stupid. (though I rarely made as much as you, Because, according to the market, you didn’t earn it. which proves that WN street warrior types have gotten the economy they actually want, one where a twenty-something autodidact blue collar guy can make as much or more as someone with a dual UC MBA/JD). That proves no such thing. I’m one man telling an anecdotal story. And as I’ve repeatedly pointed out this isn’t the economy I want. BTW, I find it interesting that on one of your blogs, Daniel Antinora, you have a link to Mises’s Human Action. I’m fairly certain you haven’t actually read it, but I applaud the intent. I told you I’ve read it. I went thru my libertarian phase Leon. Fortunately it happened to coincide with my methamphetamine days which is the only way I could have made it thru that dreadful nonsense. I never said that nobody should read the Austrians. You certainly act like you do. Where do you find the time to study Christian theology, virtue ethics (I doubt you’ve read much MacIntyre, or possess the intellectual background to understand it), Ask Marshall. I have After Virtue and Whose Justice?, both of which are heavily marked up and highlighted and have read rebuttals to both in some journals. I have JSTOR access and plenty of other access thru my school. Third Reich history, genetic interests, etc? My historical knowledge of the Third Reich is weak compared to my general knowledge of European history (I’ve read Norman Davies’ Europe twice and marked it up heavily as well). I was more interested directly in the revisionist question. I just started Hitler’s War again but I struggle to read Irving. And raise a family, and make very good money in a bad economy, and travel around the country visiting WNs, etc? Something smells phony about you, whether you’ve ‘outed’ yourself on facebook or not (seriously busy people like me and my friends and former colleagues have very little time for “social media”, btw) ... I have a smart phone. I have a frantic level of energy I’m also possessed trying to burn and I’m younger and possess more vital force than you. Balance is a constant battle. Recently, we were discussing investments, and he mentioned that he currently makes a little over 200k, which sounds about right, considering what he does and the low living costs where he’s based. I have friends who are secretaries for hedge fund boys that make that. Sounds like your friend is a fucking loser. I could discuss legions of other examples of real people in the real world. So could I. You are a twenty something electrical lineman with no education, but you make basically as much as this friend with all his experience and qualifications? Sounds like I make more. I’m going to spend some time redacting some personal info and post my end of the year W-2 for you if that will satisfy you. I have no real knowledge of blue collar salaries, I admit, and I know that some blue collar jobs do make surprising amounts of money (eg, go be an Australian gold mine worker). The shut your fucking mouth. We see the mask drop now don’t we! You think you’re an intellectual and you’re more important! Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic that you think your friend deserves more cash than me like that is all that matters. Do you know how many Christmases, how many birthdays, Christenings, weekends, nights, baby milestones and family get-togethers I’ve missed turning the power back on? Do you know what it feels like to fall twenty feet to the ground with fifty pounds of tools on? Do you know what it is like to watch somebody get decapitated? To lose a friend you worked with for almost four years on the job to electrocution right in front of you? You have revealed yourself to be the true snake you are: an extended phenotype for Jewry and a man who bows down before Mammon. WN really does attract a morally problematic crowd, with whom nice, normal white people want no contact. Oh come the fuck off it Leon. I never miss an invitation to anybody’s beer buys, parties, Christening, kid’s parties or baptisms. I’m as normal as can be. What really irks you is that I’m superior to you in every way and I am so in a completely effortless fashion. Jared Taylor was exactly right. What is needed is a morally upstanding, behaviorally conventional movement of serious whites to develop common cause to preserve the West. Thugs and conspiracist looneys must be kept rigorously away. By all means then. Marry a Jew and complete your transformation! Convert and write op-eds for Taylor’s publication. Fucking disgusting. 43
Posted by Leon Haller on January 10, 2012, 07:48 PM | # Dasein @31 I question this IQ ranking:
1) How good were IQ tests then? 2) How tight is the correlation between demonstrated IQ and what recognizably intelligent persons accept as ‘real intelligence’? 3) Speer and Rosenberg were highly intelligent, almost certainly more than Goering, I should think. Speer’s intelligence, demonstrated during the war wrt economic management, was clearly superior to the wartime accomplishments of Goering. 4) I think Goebbels was very smart, more so than Himmler. I doubt Hitler was as smart as you claim. Mein Kampf is far less indicative of high intellect than the average Yale or Princeton University press publication by white authors. Trust me on this: I went to one of the Ivies, and the typical professor there was in no way a “near-genius”. 5) Do you believe reports that Sharon Stone has an IQ of 150, or Reggie Jackson above 160? How do those kinds of attributions, where there is such a tremendous discrepancy between demonstrated mental accomplishment (in any way or field) and alleged IQ, get made?
Yes, to the last sentence, and in both potential senses: a lot more foundational intellectual work in building the nationalist case (esp ethically, in making it congruent with Christian or Western moral principles) is needed, and a lot more intellectual persuasion on our behalf at all levels of society is needed. Radical ethnocultural individualism is the new religion among whites (and only whites, to any significant extent), and we are proposing its overthrow. Your idea re mass emailing is good, even of professors (though most are not stupid, and are liberal therefore out of basic agreement, not mere ignorance), but I don’t think we need a PDF quarterly (we could email back issues of AR or TOQ articles, after all). Professors’ emails are usually listed on their homepages. Not hard to come by. What we need - I propose YET AGAIN - is a concise, propagandistic, Nationalist Platform, with allied facts and their proper citations, that can then be emailed across the entire web, to everyone, all the time, continuously (I still get enough goddam viagra spam, even at my business address, so why is it impossible?). It’s the constant repetition that is important. Even so, I wonder how great an effect it would have on professors. Even if more if them were in secret Revolutions are made by the alienated and disaffected, with little to lose and much to gain from a changing of the guard.
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Posted by Leon Haller on January 10, 2012, 08:19 PM | #
I’m studying Catholic theology! And you wonder why WN gets no hearing?!
Perhaps your effortless superiority is demonstrated elsewhere. What you (and many others) do demonstrate here is remarkable arrogance, disrespect and unseriousness. I think I have wasted my time here at MR. I persist because there are a few I like, and in my normal life, I have few with whom to discuss these issues. My WN friends agree with me on most matters except the Jews, and they keep things to a basic level, and my really intelligent friends are race liberals who don;t like touching race at all. I think in the future it would be better for me to work on articles and books, without engaging in web arguments. Let people respond to my work as they will. Rather than trying to convince highly committed people of the wisdom of my particular approach, as I’ve been doing for 5+ years now across the web, it would be wiser simply to build an independent base and ‘end-run’ your types. I believe there are or could be tens of millions of white Americans receptive to a Middle American nationalism, one which talks about fairness and justice for abused or victimized whites (whether the source is crime, affirmative racism, immigration invasion, etc), without engaging in weird conspiracism, historically problematic revisionism, or morally unpalatable extremism. Build that moderate nationalism up, and the extremists will find themselves effortlessly marginalized. Yes, that is the approach which will reap dividends. 45
Posted by danielj on January 10, 2012, 09:05 PM | # I’m sorry Leon. Catholic theology isn’t Jew poison. my brain was scrambled for a second. 46
Posted by Francis on January 10, 2012, 11:44 PM | # You’re currently the best thing about MR, Haller. Good luck on your next endeavor. I’ll read it, buy it, subscribe to it, whatever. 47
Posted by Leon Haller on January 11, 2012, 03:45 AM | # Francis, Thank you for the kind words. I must ask, however, are you sure you’re not Silver? Evidence: 1) I’m unfamiliar with “Francis”, yet your comment suggests familiarity with me. I think it’s unusual for persons to read MR for any length of time without themselves contributing. I don’t read or even skim every thread at MR, but I have done so for many, and believe I remember most contributors’ web monikers. 2) Your comment here@ 11:44pm is adjacent in the Recent Comments queue to a much lengthier one by Silver @12:32am. 3) The latter comment by Silver is likewise directed in part to me. 4) There is a noticeable difference in how I am addressed across MR. For some it is “Leon”, for others, “Haller”. Silver falls in the latter category (see comment @12:32am), as do you. 5) Past interactions suggest the good Silver finds me among the more civilized and less sheerly weird (not to mention morally repulsive) among MR regulars. 6) I sense a literary/psychological similarity between your prose and that of Silver. All very circumstantial, of course. Again, thanks for the vote of confidence, Francis/Silver. I shall continue with my agenda, somewhere. WRT the truths of race differences, and their social and political meaningfulness, we WNs have all but won the academic debate with the race-deniers, though we continue to make at best remarkably slow progress in translating our truths into broad attitudinal changes among whites (I’m thinking of the US, but this seems true elsewhere, too), let alone concrete nationalist polices and legislation (one example of a small, albeit ‘negative’, victory, is the near universal rejection by the current and recently departed Republican presidential aspirants of any illegal alien amnesty, of whatever form proposed). The task for scientifically inclined nationalists is less to discover more ways in which race is taxonomically valid or sociologically important, but rather, to ensure the spreading of our truths as widely and continuously as possible. Where real intellectual progress is still needed, however, is in changing the ethical paradigm by which the bulk of our people evaluate race-related proposals. Most whites think (even if only superficially, and I’m not sure about that empirically) that even moderate racism is morally wrong. I’ve experienced this not only with self-identified liberals, but with Christians and even secular conservatives, too. ‘Endogenists’ (those who argue that this reflects some underlying genetic propensity towards race liberalism on the part of whites) can fight all day with ‘exogenists’ (those who hold some outside agency - usually Jewry, sometimes liberalism or globalization, or even capitalism - primarily responsible for polluting our ‘race-mind’) over causes and their proportional blame, but merely understanding how this racial brainwashing came about does not guarantee that mass racial enlightenment or deprogramming (with attendant electoral/policy changes) will follow. I genuinely believe that very little concrete white EGI progress will be made until vastly more whites come to reject the “racism is wrong” meme, and I don’t think WNs yet have a fully formulated ethics of race adequate to the task. I am committed to doing what I can to further that element of our larger agenda. 48
Posted by Captainchaos on January 11, 2012, 04:10 AM | #
Sure we do, dipstick. Any “morality” which demands our extinction is itself immoral.
Oh, fuck off with you, Leon. First you say we need more mainstream-palatable activism and less theorizing, now you imply we need more theorizing; which, conveniently, as you imply, only you will be in a position to provide. I hear the pied piper playing and it is a disagreeable tune.
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Posted by Leon Haller on January 11, 2012, 05:20 AM | # CC, OK, try this one: we generally need less theorizing, historical revisionism, refighting ancient feuds, etc, and more concrete activism to spread our message - except wrt ethics, in which I think we need better theorizing. We have plenty of evidence of race differences in ability as well as behavior, of future race extinction unless we change policies, and of how racial integration is mostly harmful to whites. I’m not discouraging scientists from continuing to pursue their passions, but merely pointing out that wrt racial realities our problem is not with gathering the truth, but rather, with its widest possible dissemination. A lot of whites still don’t know the reality of race. Sounds incredible to us, but I’ve come across amazing ignorance out there, even (perhaps especially) among the intelligent. Regarding ethics, however, it’s another matter. Right now our ethical arguments are mainly negative; that is, we can use analytical philosophy thoroughly to disprove liberal ascriptions of blame to whites for minority social pathologies or socioeconomic outcomes, as Michael Levin [oh no, a ... Jew!] did so brilliantly in his book Why Race Matters. Whatever problems or inequalities ‘plague’ nonwhites are not our fault, and we can now prove this beyond a reasonable doubt. But this disproof of blame is insufficient to save our race. Proving that minority test scores are not low due to racism, or that blacks commit crime at higher rates than whites even controlling for IQ, or that diverse societies have greater levels of conflict, and lower levels of social ‘capital’ and trust, than homogenous ones, will not thereby provide the ethical justifications for the hard measures that will be needed actually to preserve the race in perpetuity. That will only be possible when at least some significant White Racial States have been brought into existence - and that will only happen as a result of serious, ‘racist’ population expulsions. For Britain to become a white redoubt, several million (5 million? 10?) nonwhites now resident there will have to be told to leave - and when some violently resist, those will have to be killed. What we are talking about involves huge upheavals, which are morally problematic as well as difficult to implement - which is why I have been fighting immigration since the 80s, formally as a paid anti-immigration policy analyst, as well as informally and editorially. It would have been so, so much easier, ethically as well as physically, just to have kept the aliens out of Europe (and to a minimum here in America) in the first place. But removing those now established requires a whole other set of ethical justifications, at least insofar as I am correct in my political assessment that most whites would rather allow their race gradually to go extinct, than to be aggressively racist in doing something to prevent it. Am I wrong in that? I spend far more time reading mainstream than nationalist materials, and I’m pretty sure I’m right. There is a world of ethical difference between keeping an immigrant out of your country, and expelling one already here. Just look at the divisiveness among whites over the issue of merely expelling illegal immigrants, which ought to be a no-brainer. We’re a long way from where we need to be, in terms of ethical race theory, as well as the spread of that theory. We should each contribute where and how we can, which in part means doing what we’re comparatively good at as well as what interests us. I’m going to work on ethical race theory specifically geared towards conservatives for whom Christianity is important. That’s a large field, believe me.
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Posted by Leon Haller on January 11, 2012, 05:31 AM | # danielj, I want to quickly note that I have no disrespect for any honest work, and I recognize that being an electric lineman involves a high degree of skill, as well as other qualities of character. I don’t think working in finance is somehow superior to such work; quite the contrary, in many ways. I also think that free markets should be free, and that in truly free markets, work like yours might well come to be far more highly valued and hence remunerated than work like mine (though you shouldn’t look down, either, on what it takes to be a corporate executive in a manufacturing industry). At the same time, don’t think becoming an intellectual (a real one) is easy, either. It’s easy to mouth opinions, but educated and wise ones take a lot of background work. 51
Posted by Captainchaos on January 11, 2012, 05:47 AM | # Theory is fucking boring. What we need is to spend hours poring over data tables all the while refraining from the culminating gratification of drawing any hard conclusion from said data that contradicts Richards’ interpretation. Only then will our heroic Germanic asceticism be confirmed. We must always strive to live in the image of our Fuhrer (Richards). LOL 52
Posted by J Richards on January 11, 2012, 06:47 AM | # CS @29
You and Haller come up with proposals as if they’ve never been tried before! Ever heard of James Hart? http://jameshartforcongress.com/ He tried to run as a Republican, only to have his name thrown off the ballot. Then he ran as an independent. If you learn about his efforts, you’ll understand what needs to be done. CS @32
Ridiculous! The founding fathers of America fought tooth and nail against these creatures, but ultimately lost because the Jewish community is relentless, knows no morals in dealing with non-Jewish communities, doesn’t follow rules, plays dirty to the hilt… Here’s American history in brief: http://www.majorityrights.com/money/american-history England is another example. Jews had been expelled and kept out of England for centuries. Did they just invite themselves back in? They had to have the King of England murdered before they were able to enter in droves: http://www.majorityrights.com/money/american-history#h5 And guess what happened when the Jews came in? The English were quickly screwed: http://www.majorityrights.com/money/american-history#h9 Then there’s Canada. White French established a new settlement, free of Jews. How did the Jews end up acquiring control? Warfare and massacre: http://globheu.blogspot.com/2007/10/ch-29-qubec.html Examples like these show the uselessness of one thing you’ve been proposing left and right: Haller’s white Zion. As history shows, unless you destroy Jewish money power, a white Zion would be destroyed, that is if you can even get it started somehow. You need to stop bringing in the white Zion idea and start discussing how to work on the Juden (I’ve already directed you to the right resources). When Haller has his white Zion website, join him there in working out the logistics.
The facts show nothing of the sort regarding your claims of araciality and not minding the flooding of their nations by racial aliens, quite the opposite: http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/tony_lecomber_on_the_future_of_nationalism#c120185 The problem isn’t lacking racial consciousness, but being unable to do anything about the matter because the money supply and hence the seat of power is under Jewish control.
No surprise. Lenin was Jewish and he was implementing Jewish goals. CS @36
It goes way earlier, as some of the history extracts show. And most certainly, the white people didn’t let the Jews do them over… it’s losing to an exceedingly treacherous, persistent community that doesn’t follow normal human rules and has no qualms against the commissioning of any crimes necessary to subjugate and rule. dc @37
As you’ve cited some examples and the links I’ve passed on to CS show, there’s plenty of historical materials. It has to be put in one place and then people like CS and Haller wouldn’t even try bringing up such issues, forget about doing so again and again and again….
It’s about controlling money. Once you get to do so, attempting to control public discourse is not so difficult, and one needs to do so. 53
Posted by J Richards on January 11, 2012, 06:53 AM | # Jimmy Marr @38
This doesn’t apply to the American founding fathers, the French who settled in Canada and the English royalty (King Charles) as my links in the reply to CS show. You can add the French revolution of the late 1700s as an instance of a royalty that cared about the people and wouldn’t be corrupted. The Jews had to kill them to take control. Later, when Napoleon realized what the Jews were upto, Jews financed all European powers they could against him. Similarly, the Russian royalty had to be removed [and was murdered] for the Bolshevist revolution to succeed. Now, there are other more complex examples, but none of the sort you suggest as far as I know. Let’s look at one of these examples, from the 1100s in Béziers, France. This region had a mild climate, produced fine wines, and was wealthy. The Bishops knew about the nature of the Jews and warned others, especially from Palm Sunday to the second day of Easter, which prompted some people to throw stones at Jews during this week. Initially, the Jews had to bear this, but they succeeded in ingratiating themselves to the viscounts by loaning them money. Then they used bribes and struck an agreement, in 1160, that they’d pay four pounds of silver every year on Palm Sunday if the priests speaking ill of Jews are excommunicated. Bingo! The problem priests were removed, and you can guess what happened next. Jews quickly ended up controlling most of the government, especially the judiciary, tax, farming and the treasury. But getting all the wealth would require additional measures. Béziers and other localities within Languedoc had a significant Cathar population, with religious beliefs at odds with the majority. The Cathars didn’t provide the Pope with tithes or offerings, and the Pope was’t pleased with this heretical offshoot of Christianity. On the other hand, a “baptized” Jew, Arnaul Amaury Amalric, had rapidly risen in the ranks of the clergy in the 1190s, and in 1201, became the Abbott of Citeaux and head of the Cistercian order. Now everything was in place. Missionaries had been sent to locales in Languedoc to target the Cathars, without success. The Cathars weren’t impressed with the rich, ostentatious and arrogant missionaries. When newer missionaries pretended to be poor, the Cathars saw through the ruse. The missionaries arranged a debate with top Cathar theologian Theodoric, but the Cathars thought that Theodoric won the debate. The trigger for what would follow was the murder of a priest [possible false flag operation], Pierre de Castelnau, in Saint-Gilles, who had traveled there to excommunicate the count of Toulouse. Before dying, Pierre de Castelnau had forgiven his killer. But Arnaul Amalric had a different idea. Amalric swung into action, asking the Pope to proclaim that any man who does not take the cross [against the heretics] shall drink no wine, shall not eat off a cloth morning or night, shall wear neither linen nor hemp and when he dies shall lie unburied like a dog. Thus began a crusade. Indulgence was offered (forgiveness for all sins) and an army was raised. This army was led by Amalric, and included Amalric’s friend Dominique de Guzman, a Spanish Jew working for the Catholic Church as the Canon of Osma. When the viscount of Béziers learned of the approaching army, he left, telling his people that he was needed in Caracassonne, and that help would arrive. Most of Béziers’ Jews left with him. They knew what was coming. The remaining Jews would presumably be protected by virtue of the distinctive clothing they wore, supposedly to avoid accidental sexual intercourse with Christians. When the crusaders were poised to strike at Béziers, Amalric was asked, by the Captain of the Catholic army, how to distinguish Cathars from the Catholics. Amalric said, “Kill them all! God will recognize his own.” But while the discussions were going on, the ribaldi (scavengers, hanger-ons, servants in the army), who had been “picked up” by the army, stormed in and started the slaughter. All the Catholics and Cathars were slaughtered, including women, children and the Catholic priests that had sought shelter in Churches, which the Christian French knights would never have done. People were blinded, dragged behind horses, and used for target practice before being murdered on the day of the celebration of the feast of Mary Magdalene (22 July, 1209). Around 20,000 were slaughtered. The ribaldi killed, looted and had an “amazing predilection” for just where the wealth was. Now, what’s responsible for this? The non-Jewish ruling elite of Béziers had been bribed and corrupted into initially doing something supposedly humane [stamping out prejudice] (excommunicating clergy warning people of the nature of Jews) and then inadvertently handed over control to Jews. You can’t say that they knew what was going to happen and were okay with it. It’s the viscount who understood close to the end what had been the plan, at which point there’s nothing he could’ve done to prevent the massacre, and he saved his ass by leaving the city. On the other hand, the Catholic Church had been infiltrated and some wonder whether the Pope was secretly Jewish himself for having authorized the Crusade, which would go on to cause more carnage, but I haven’t been able to confirm whether the Pope was secretly Jewish. Here’s another example of the hundreds of years of plotting, treachery, treason and other normal Jewish behaviors that led to the overthrow of the Swedish rulers of Spain [Visigoths]; the grand finale was when the Jews invited hordes of Muslims [armies] to do the dirty job: http://globheu.blogspot.com/2009/01/rise-and-fall-of-visigoth-empire-in.html All of Jewish history is like this. You have to ask yourself why have they been repeatedly expelled from all over and throughout time. Beware of comments blaming our major problems on intrinsic deficiencies and the ruling elite of our own racial backgrounds. History, facts reveal the truth. 54
Posted by J Richards on January 11, 2012, 06:58 AM | # Francis @46 Haller is a fine fellow indeed. @47 he writes:
He also shows his commitment to formulate the ethics of race and help more whites reject the “racism is wrong” meme by writing @3:
You better hope that this gentleman’s next endeavor is his own website as I’d guess it’s only a matter of weeks if not days before Haller stinks up the discussion yet again with a strong stench and is disposed off in the garbage for good. 55
Posted by Anon on January 11, 2012, 07:19 AM | #
You may chuckle about this plan. But the Jews are already doing it. Marcus Du Sautoy is a top gentile mathmatician who has been ensnared by a Jewish temptress. His DNA has been stolen away from us by the Jews. She is raising the children as Jews and they will be using their mathematical abilities to help the Jews from now on.
Think how different things could have been if only Du Sautoy had been ensnared by a white nationalist temptress instead. She could have gained 3 genius white children out of him with excellent mathematical abilities. When the children grew up, they could have combined their top mathmatical abilities inherited from their father with white ethnocentrism inherited from their mother and use these skills to set up a white bank. This could have transformed the nationalist community, the bank could have been used to finance nationalist businesses and projects, creating an upwards spiral.
It would be easier than trying to establish a new white country. Easier than trying to convert the whole entire white population. Easier than trying to convert old liberal professors already set in their liberal ways. Most religions grow by breeding new recruits, rather than by converting adults. It’s much easier to indoctrinate a child than an old man. If talented people do not come to the nationalist community, then the nationalist community must breed it’s own geniuses. The nationalist community must make itself stronger on the genetic level. Also, there are many other uses for white temptresses, such as blackmail. They really are a much needed valuable asset. The nationalist community really should be on a mission to acquire as many white temptresses as it can.
The nationalist community doesn’t just need high IQ science types, there are other talents required for political success, such as high verbal ability, merchant talents, sales talents. Entrepeneurial talents required to run successful businesses in order to fund the nationalist movement. The children being bred for front line politics will also need to inherit the beauty gene, because voters want to vote for good looking people. The nationalist community needs to overhaul itself from the ground up, starting at the genetic level.
Old professors are set in their ways and don’t want to lose social status. A much better idea would be to create a fictional novel aimed at white students. White people are very influenced by fiction. For example, you will often hear libertarians saying that they decided to become libertarians after reading a novel called Atlas Shrugged when they were students. Some libertarians were so inspired by this work of fiction that years later, they named their businesses after characters in the book. The nationalist community needs a fictional novel that is equivalent to Atlas Shrugged. Something that white students will identify with and be inpired by. Something that will make the white students name their children after the characters in the book.
White people are sheep looking for a quality shepherd they can trust and believe in. The nationalist community has failed to produce such a shepherd. The nationalist community needs to completely overhaul itself from the ground up, starting at the genetic level. The long term goal for the nationalist community should be to produce an elite of nationalist superhumans who can fill this shepherd role. The first step is to acquire a batalion of white temptresses. 56
Posted by Liberal Heresy on January 11, 2012, 08:12 AM | # @Anon, there’s much I sympathise with here but in reading such suggestions I always try to be harshly Devil’s Advocate for practicality purposes. Yes it could work, yes children brought up in the faith are likely to retain elements of that faith and not be deeply phased by social taboos but let us consider your example as a quick case study. Would the mother in this case determine the political education of the child within the hierarchy of that family? How far might she inculcate it ideologically? The father here, to be fair, does seem to be a captive to his wife - the ‘children being brought up as Jewish’. So we would need a small active corps of beautiful, intelligent and wily women willing to dedicate themselves to the cause in an arranged marriage for the duration. Where do you bulk buy some of those? There is a place for this tactic, but I think there is also a place for the gene selection options that I’ve outlined above. I tend to think the latter would be a more successful way to accomplish the ends that we are discussing. In a PLE environment, especially if it could be combined with a little Mormom-lite extended family structure, you could develop a much higher number of children within the first generation, no? School them together and reinforce the support structure for their whole lives. @Dasein followed your Nazi IQ links. From the myriad of ultra high IQ sites linked on that website, is racial (even Western civ) thinking ever a consideration for those folks? John Bryant used to make efforts in that direction I know. They do seem somewhat a powerless bunch regardless of their collective high scores. 57
Posted by CS on January 11, 2012, 08:39 AM | # J Richards @52 Okay, there was some resistance to Jewish takeovers but apparently mostly at the elite level and mostly in the distant past. If we had a Whitopia country there would be resistance to Jewish takeovers from almost everybody in the entire country. It would be like the Jews trying to sell non-white immigration to the membership of Stormfront. It would be a non-starter and they would immediately be told to fuck off by almost everyone there. It also demonstrates why decentralization is the way to go. The more power is concentrated the less people the Jews have to corrupt to get things to go their way. And I’m all for destroying Jewish money power but I don’t see how that’s going to be possible. Even if we could eliminate central banking the Jews have a ton of money outside of that. If we create a Whitopia or even a partial Whitopia it creates the advantage of making it possible that all the money you spend goes to other WN instead of non-whites, white liberals or Jews. Start a Whitopia in a city of one small country and the WN there should be smart enough to direct all their economic activities to other WN in the same area. That enriches themselves and other WN. James Hart was at the congressional level. If even David Duke was running for the Republican presidential nomination I don’t think he can excluded and he’ll get the opportunity to get our message across via early debates and radio interviews. As for the average person showing racial solidarity, if they aren’t at a miniumum voting for the BNP which takes minimal effort and risk then they aren’t showing any racial awareness or solidarity. They’re bascially telling the world they don’t mind seeing Britain being filled with non-whites. I don’t give a shit how much the BNP is demonized by the media, if whites were really racially aware they wouldn’t care what the media says. 58
Posted by CS on January 11, 2012, 08:44 AM | # Anon, Assuming we could “steal” genius genes, there’s no guarantee they’ll turn out to be WN. There are plenty of WN who end up having kids who turn out to be liberals or aracial lemmings. The enviornment outside of the parents pushes people extremely hard that way. Create a Whitopia, and we have way more control over that environment plus we can practice eugenics and create lots of smart or genius kids that way instead of having your tax dollars used to support hordes of negroids. 59
Posted by danielj on January 11, 2012, 09:13 AM | # James Hart was at the congressional level. I think Don Black’s son pulled off something at the local level in Florida as well. 60
Posted by CS on January 11, 2012, 09:31 AM | # Anon, I looked up this math guy on Wiki. It didn’t say anything about in studying in a Hebrew university. Why the fuck would a gentile be studying in a Hebrew univeristy? Wiki says…“Du Sautoy is a supporter of Common Hope, an organisation that helps people in Guatemala.” He sounds like a fucking pinko who has zero problem with Britain being turned iinto a combination of Pakistan and Nigeria. I’d like to be wrong about that. 61
Posted by CS on January 11, 2012, 09:35 AM | # Okay, it does say he studied post do at Hebrew university. Why would he do his post doc in Israel? Perhaps the Jews lured him there with the intention of “stealing his genes”. 62
Posted by CS on January 11, 2012, 09:45 AM | # Anon, I thought your idea sounded crazy at first but seeing how the Jews do it I get what you’re talking about. And that is a good point that it is probably easier to raise someone up to be WN than convert someone. However, as I said earlier, I suspect there are many WN parents who end up having libeal or aracial lemming kids. April Gaede seems to be latest I can recall or perhaps her daughters are lying so they can get hired for a job somewhere. If we’re going to do a PLE which is a good idea, why not try to do so at the national level by trying to demographically take over an enitre country? Granted it would take decades but there would be some advantages right off the bat. 63
Posted by Silver on January 11, 2012, 10:06 AM | # CS,
This as good point as any to address some of the “money” issues. First of all, money is not created in “unlimited” amounts. There may be far more spending than conservatives would but that is very different to calling what spending there is “unlimited.” In any case, a gold standard is no barrier to racking up debts. Governments have borrowed more than they were willing or able to pay back all throughout history (ie back when gold was money). A gold standard may decrease the rate at which governments accumulate debt, but in the long run all they need do is each year borrow more than they pack back and debt will accumulate. Regarding the idea that central banks, fiat money, and fractional reserve banking all lead combine to “impoverish” populations or “enslave” them (under an impossible debt burden), which is the position The Money Masters takes, consider the following list of countries: Algeria, Australia, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Egypt, Finland, Ireland, Indonesia, Jordan, Malaysia, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Panama, S. Africa, Sweden, Switzerland. All those countries feature all three of central banks, fiat money, and FRB (as indeed do all countries today). All of those have impressively reduced their federal debt burdens at some point in the last thirty years (many of them over the last ten or fifteen). This can be verified by visiting this site http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2011/02/weodata/weoselco.aspx?g=2001&sg=All+countries and selecting “General Government Gross Debt as a percentage of GDP,” and setting the beginning year as 1980. The Money Masters maintains that the reason Americans can’t escape their growing debt burden is because the Fed controls the money supply. But if a central bank controlling the money supply (and enabling commercial banks to create “money out of nothing”) causes indebtedness to inexorably rise, how were all those countries able to so remarkably reduced their level of public debt? The answer is that central banking has nothing to do with it and The Money Masters is simply spreading misinformation and sending sincerely concerned citizens on a wild-goose chase. For heaven’s sake, even the US reduced its federal debt from something around 100% of GDP just after WWII to the low 30%s around 1980—at which point it began to skyrocket again. Did it need to skyrocket again? Of course not. Ironically, US federal debt again began to reduce as a percentage of GDP just after The Money Masters was first released in 1996 (only to skyrocket again under Bush). (The Money Masters also engages in the most pitiful sort of populist rabble rousing about inflation. “Remember when milk was only blah blah blah…”, totally neglecting to mention that wages have largely kept pace with inflation or that if they’ve fallen somewhat behind at the working class end that mass immigration of the unskilled is one important reason for it.) What I’ve mentioned so far is far from all the misinformation The Money Masters spreads, but I really can’t be bothered watching the series again to refresh my memory of the specific claims. Richards—yes I’ve posted some verbose responses to other threads in the last month, but I only need to retrieve those arguments or data from memory to post them, which is very different to sitting through a boring and annoying documentary like The Money Masters. In any case, I think the specific economic claims are somewhat beside the point as it relates to your interest in the money issue. You simply believe that the current system allows Jews to get too powerful. You wish to curtail their power and assume “taking control of the money supply” is the best way to do it. I’m not so sure. Not only because I think the financial system as is presently organized is superior to the alternatives I’ve seen presented, but because there are ample other ways for Jews to entrench themselves and stymie the pursuit of white racial interests (mostly defensively, imo, but I suppose there are some malicious firestarters out there). Whatever the case, you certainly don’t get off pretending that it’s just obvious that going after control of the money supply is the proper way to proceed—it’s anything but obvious.
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Posted by Silver on January 11, 2012, 10:27 AM | # Haller,
Yeah, no kidding. And all of that over a little compliment, lol. No, I’m not “Francis.” I’m impressed by the way you handle yourself in the face of such unaccountable hostility, but our disagreements are too many and my distrust of you too great (no point lying about it) for me to ever say you’re “the best thing about” this blog. That said, of course I’ll be sure to check out anything you produce (book, blog, whatever). 65
Posted by CS on January 11, 2012, 11:00 AM | # Silver, I don’t want to get into a big discussion about monetary policy as it is a side issue to what we want to accomplish. Fiat money CAN be created in unlimited amounts whereas gold cannot. It is possible to rack up huge amounts of debt with a gold based currency but not as much as the world has now. I’m pretty sure it would be impossible for there to be as much debt now as there is if money was based on gold. Furthermore, I’m pretty sure the current banking system is a giant Jewish scam that allows the owners to fleece taxpayers as well as give them power over government. 66
Posted by danielj on January 11, 2012, 11:11 AM | # Silver, You are waaaay wrong about wages keeping pace with inflation. At least in the American context. A quick one from a libertarian: http://dailyreckoning.com/the-corruption-of-america/ Also, you should consider the career trajectory of political insider Kevin Phillips. I’ve read quite a few of his books and he seems to have done good with data and his conclusion is essentially that wages peaked in the seventies and declined rapidly and steadily since that point. This was especially so during the “deregulation” of Ronnie Ray Gun. The man however, seems to me to be the definition of moderate, somber and non-partisan. I would say he has done a bang-up job proving that wealth is disappearing and the middle class being destroyed. 67
Posted by danielj on January 11, 2012, 11:11 AM | # Not to mention almost all households have sent the ladies to work… Which is the greatest crime imaginable as far as I’m concerned. 68
Posted by Jimmy Marr on January 11, 2012, 12:57 PM | # J. Richards: Beware of comments blaming our major problems on intrinsic deficiencies and the ruling elite of our own racial backgrounds. Thank you for your detailed response to my question. There is a great deal of information there of which I was unaware. I would like, if a may, to probe a little deeper. In your response, you have referred to a “ruling elite of our own racial backgrounds.” This is precisely the crux of my question: Is there any reason to suspect that these elites were, from antiquity, or have recently become, due to inbreeding and selective pressures (murder of the incorruptible), developed a distinctive genetic profile that is, in itself, racially inimical to our race, as a whole? Something along the lines of what certain people like David Icke, of whom I know almost nothing, refer to as “Reptiles”? Or do you think this is this just another deceptive maneuver on the part of Jewry? 69
Posted by Jimmy Marr on January 11, 2012, 01:40 PM | # I’ve expressed approval for the Anon’s comment at #25 regarding the creation of a fictional narrative about a eugenics program between White chess champions and White temptresses. What I like about the idea is that it focuses our attention on our existential dilemma at the level of sexual relations, which is the most fundamental building block. My preference is to imagine possibilities for changes at level of interpersonal (molecular) relationships to produce changes in our social morphology in a way that is analogous to crystallization. Whether this involves kidnapping chess studs and breeding them with temptresses, or whether smart, attractive WN males succeed in organizing the cooperative support of multiple wives is open to debate, but I’m attracted to them both because they focus on change at the individual level rather than from the top down. 70
Posted by Dan Dare on January 11, 2012, 01:42 PM | # Re The Money Masters, much of it - particularly that relating to Britain - is complete bunk. It’s disgraceful that such a one-eyed polemic should appear on Majority Rights. I appeal to Guessedworker to remove it at the earliest possible opportunity. 71
Posted by commonwealth contrarian on January 11, 2012, 02:42 PM | # Post modernism is simply liberal individualism in fashionable clothing. If we can’t be confident of anything with a high degree of certainty then no one can be an expert, and therefore the only views that count are personal, subjective interpretations of the truth - very convinient for an ideology that puts individual autonomy ahead of group interests. 72
Posted by Graham_Lister on January 11, 2012, 03:30 PM | # Well Post-Modernism (POMO) is a mixed bag – sure it can be read in the hyper-individualistic way you mentioned but cannot it not also be deployed to argue for the validity of the particular, against various false form of universalism? OK so ultra-radical POMO attacks both science and mathematics as just another narrative. That’s going way over the top. If we say quantum mechanics (QM) is true (and we have no reason to doubt it – QM is one of the most accurate and predictively powerful scientific theories we have) it would be a true ‘brute’ observation from the empirical, ontologically independent world, even if one is a member of Amazonian tribe, a theology professor from New England or a soccer yob from East London. So at its very best science and mathematics does produce universal truths (or asymptotically approaches them). Yet in the realm of culture things really are very much more uncertain. Why accept that “diversity is our greatest strength” as some form of universal truth or indeed accept any other piece of liberal theory in the same way? Instead go with an attenuated and restricted POMO; why is our particular tradition/culture et al., to be judged unworthy or invalid – by what authority can the high priests of liberal modernity legitimately judge the value of the particular or radically disprivilege it? None whatsoever, as in this domain of life there is no view from nowhere – the view is always from somewhere – i.e. subjective and/or not genuinely ‘objective’ and value-free/non-normative in its assumptions and implicit commitments. This is as true for the various forms of liberal universalism as for anything else. 73
Posted by daniel on January 11, 2012, 05:32 PM | # I’ve heard that Hitler’s I.Q. was 125. I don’t know if that is true. My brother’s I.Q. is 143, so I guess he is as smart as the smartest Nazi, according to that criteria..
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Posted by New Link Suggestion - Lurker on January 11, 2012, 08:41 PM | # http://mailstar.net/index.html
Mildly cranky Australian’s work, but a lot of book heavy citations on important events that make vivid, parts of the historical picture 75
Posted by Ivan on January 11, 2012, 11:57 PM | #
Not sure why you are calling present-day American education system “communist schools”. The communist education system of the USSR was the best in the world that transformed peasant country into industrialized nation and put Gagarin into space in just a few decades. And remember communists are still in charge in China and they are doing excellent job at curbing subversive influence of Western “culture”: 76
Posted by Ivan on January 12, 2012, 12:06 AM | #
I have a little disagreement with debonair danielj there: Childless Leons talking about raising kids is a minor issue - that is something we can handle - while Leons producing many little Hallers could spell a major problem for whites and non-white alike. 77
Posted by Ivan on January 12, 2012, 12:54 AM | # Modern American education system is the most ingenious educational system designed and implemented by the Jews ... for the host population. It works as designed, and it does wonders. One day, back in the fall of 2008, I came from work and my shocked wife announced: “Can you imagine, our preschool twins and their peers have been shown today photos of presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain and asked for whom they would vote. “Ok, and who was your choice”, - I asked my kids. “McCain”, - both answered. “Why McCain?” - I was naive enough to think that they have selected McCain because he reminded them one of their favorite cartoon characters or something like that. But their answer was unanimous: “Because we didn’t like the other guy”. “But why!” - I wouldn’t let them go. They looked at each other and steadfastly refused to answer my last question. The Jewish design is comprehensive and it works - my kids are already politically correct citizens of the United States. 78
Posted by M-W on January 12, 2012, 01:18 AM | # 十年树木，百年树人 An intelligent adult needs even one hundred years’ continuous and fabulous education 79
Posted by Ivan on January 12, 2012, 01:30 AM | #
Jimmy, I like you, so please do me a personal favor: Don’t advise your married children to follow in the footsteps of some, obviously good and well-meaning, adherents of home schooling parents who push the envelope too hard too fast; Jews don’t appreciate that: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/11/parents-of-adolf-hitler-lose-custody-of-newborn/ 80
Posted by Ivan on January 12, 2012, 01:41 AM | #
Thanks M-W, now I know why Abkhazia is the area most densely populated by fabulously educated people: it is not uncommon for an Abkhazian to live over 100 years. 81
Posted by Captainchaos on January 12, 2012, 04:11 AM | # Dare, Do you honestly believe that what Richards is doing does not procede with GW’s tacit consent? The Money Masters is indeed crude propaganda which yet conveys the essential points regarding the importance of monetary reform at a level the rabble can grasp. That is its function.
You English have much to atone for. Take it like a man. 82
Posted by FireLight on January 12, 2012, 07:10 AM | # The honor and dignity of the modern American warrior is truly amazing. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/12/american-marines-accused-war-crimes 83
Posted by Anon on January 12, 2012, 08:38 AM | # @CS on January 11, 2012, 09:45 AM Wanting to take over a whole entire country is aiming a bit high. Starting off with trying to take over a village is a much more realistic prospect. If nationalists can’t even take over a village, then what hope is there of taking over a country? There are villages with a birth rate problem and schools shutting down due to a lack of children. The locals might even welcome a few nationalist familes moving in and keeping their village school alive. Imagine that. A village school where all the children are from fanatical nationalist familes. None of the familes have a television. None of the children are under pressure to watch TV because every child in the school is from a fanatical nationalist family. Word of mouth spreads that this is a good place to raise loyal white children. More nationalist familes move in. Gene capture temptresses come along and set up base in the village. The place gets completely conquered. Then the nationalists progress onto the nearby small town. Repeat the process.
Does the nationalist community provide any kind of support whatsoever for nationalist parents? Or are the parents left on their own and the children end up getting sucked into mainstream society? Is there even a nationalist parenting magazine? If not then the nationalist community should start thinking about how to provide support structures to help nationalist parents keep their children loyal. 84
Posted by danielj on January 12, 2012, 10:05 AM | # Jimmy, I like you, so please do me a personal favor: Don’t advise your married children to follow in the footsteps of some, obviously good and well-meaning, adherents of home schooling parents who push the envelope too hard too fast; Jews don’t appreciate that: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/11/parents-of-adolf-hitler-lose-custody-of-newborn/ Yea. I just had another one. When I was filling out the birth certificate with my wife I joked that we should check the “other” box in the race section and write “MASTER” but we both knew that it could actually get us into serious trouble. What an insane world we live in. Does the nationalist community provide any kind of support whatsoever for nationalist parents? No. Not even a social networking site to trade ideas over the net. Or are the parents left on their own and the children end up getting sucked into mainstream society? We are pretty much on our own but we are strong enough that the kids will turn out ok. All children go thru rebellious phases though. I’ll give everyone a full report once the kids are in their late teens. Is there even a nationalist parenting magazine? If not then the nationalist community should start thinking about how to provide support structures to help nationalist parents keep their children loyal. This is an excellent idea. Help with home school curriculum, meet-ups for the kids, etc. 85
Posted by Liberal Heresy on January 12, 2012, 10:46 AM | #
Occurred we could perhaps have a ‘traditionalist’ version of a LinkedIn. Gives cover to have a wider circle of members than just the hardcore allowing those with a tendency to hysteria to not be scared off. No need for last names, just first names, field, skills and interests. In an accept Link-Up request would provide general contact information or Vcard. Not a chatter or dating site or at least until the malicious could be prevented from wrecking it through the work of volunteers. Of course as Stratfor has recently discovered the need to protect an online database from the likes of Anonymous is great. They of course got hit right after writing some reports that did not agree with the globalist agenda. Anarchists I’m sure, with malicious intent..
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Posted by CS on January 12, 2012, 11:40 AM | # Anon @83, My idea would be to take over a city in a small country first. And then take over another, and another until the whole thing belongs to us. Setting up a PLE is a fine idea but ultimately we want power at the national level even if the country is small. We want complete physical and political separation from non-whites and that can only happen at the national level. A network for parents? I suppose Stormfont could sort of be like that. 87
Posted by Jimmy Marr on January 12, 2012, 01:54 PM | # This is a pretty good YouTube rant. I felt that it got better toward the end. 88
Posted by Dan Dare on January 12, 2012, 03:13 PM | #
I certainly want no further part in it.
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Posted by Oh I can see Daniel waving goodbye on January 12, 2012, 03:56 PM | # “Daniel is travelling tonight on a plane, I can see the red tail lights heading for Spain” Dare, you’re a stranger here for 6 months, while GW was the match referee. A brief return and a big show of stamping for the exit? Take a course of hormone therapy or go skulk back at the Phora where the high born are more appreciative. 90
Posted by Graham_Lister on January 12, 2012, 05:05 PM | # @Dan Dare I have similar misgivings. MR has gone from having quite interesting discussion of ontology and political theory etc., now it seems conspiracy theories, ‘the Jews’ as ‘the secret’ to understanding all of history, and various idiotic schemes for ‘breeding’ supermen are the topics of most concern. I hope both the tone and subject matter can become rather more elevated and vivifying. One of the problems with the idea of “let a thousand flowers bloom” is that, as any ecologist will tell you, you do tend to end up with weeds crowding out anything else. Perhaps the key issues are actually these ones: “Where is the life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?” (T.S. Eliot) 91
Posted by Dan Dare on January 12, 2012, 05:59 PM | # MR’s recent editorial turn towards a Unified Jewish Theory, with cod-Nietzchean undertones, is somewhat reminiscent of the character in Dr. Strangelove who precipitates World War III, based on his belief in a Communist conspiracy to contaminate Americas’ ‘precious bodily fluids’. 92
Posted by Oh I can see Daniel waving goodbye on January 12, 2012, 07:06 PM | # Dare, the Unified Jewish Theory is something you’ve complained about CONTINUALLY wrt the UK evidence position on MR. It can’t be classified as “a recent editorial turn” While you were contributing your ‘Discrimination’ entries you had several touches of the vapours and off the petticoat fluttered 93
Posted by Ivan on January 12, 2012, 07:29 PM | #
Dan is no Berezovsky and JRichards is no Putin, of course, but Dan’s announcement of his departure without actually leaving reminded me of captured in this video conclusion of Boris Berezovsky’s announcement of his resignation from the Russian Duma shortly after Putin came to power in 2000. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7zNjI-mvdg&feature=fvsr In this video, Berezovsky says: What’s the difference between the Englishman and the Jew? The Englishman leaves without saying goodbye, while the Jew says goodbye but is not leaving. I want to say that Jews in Russia are polite and obliging. The line became known since as Boris Berezovsky’s favorite joke. 94
Posted by Dan Dare on January 12, 2012, 08:26 PM | # To whomever it is that is impersonating Sir Elton - I suspect it is the Cap’n in drag - I can only repeat Clement Attlee’s words to Harold Laski after the latter had stuck in his oar once too often: “A period of silence on your part would be most welcome.” 95
Posted by danielj on January 12, 2012, 09:29 PM | # Wish me luck boys. Headed out to disrupt the party… 96
Posted by Ivan on January 12, 2012, 10:04 PM | # Wish you luck, danielj. Please don’t blow up yourself or something: we need you alive. If you still decide to go for the ultimate sacrifice, here is a requiem for you, race soldier: Wish You Were Here 97
Posted by Leon Haller on January 13, 2012, 06:39 AM | # Random thoughts:
Excuse me, lads, but there absolutely is such you seek - and I can’t remember the site, not being interested I those matters. I came across a nationalist parenting site accidentally, following some links from MR. Dan Dare, G. Lister: It’s nice you’re noticing the JRichards problem - finally. I’ve been confronting it for quite a while now, often having to bear the associated bizarities alone while his asinine allies like Helvena and dc try to get me banned. Richards actually does have a lot to say, puts an admirable amount of effort into his posts, and is certainly not stupid (though I think my earlier characterization of him as an autodidact, with the attendant limitations of that background, stands). His problems, of course, are his unbelievable tendentiousness, dull monocausality, and constant imputations not of ignorance or stupidity, but maliciousness, to those who don’t agree with him. I don’t, eg, claim to be any kind of expert in engineering or 9-11, but the notion that the official version of events (19 hijackers, planes creating necessary heat to melt steel, etc) is total balderdash is itself hardly established beyond a reasonable doubt. One of my uncles was a civil engineer and serious bridge designer, with several such structures around the US to his credit. He was also a fairly high level career military officer. He thinks the US intelligence services may well have known more about the attack or the possibility of one before it happened than they have since been willing to admit. But he does not think the physical destruction of the WTC by plane crash is at all implausible. So I should just ignore this expertise and believe Richards’s conspiracist interpretation - and worse, if I question it, it can only be due to malice?! Oh, please. Some intellectual maturity would be welcome. Of course, what is maximally annoying is that Richards has admin privileges, so he can threaten those with whom he disagrees with comments removal. That is wrong (I speak not morally, but in terms of the functioning and attractiveness of the site), and the site owner should rescind them. 99
Posted by Ivan on January 13, 2012, 09:10 AM | # JRichards is right both strategically and tactically: 1. Money and who controls it, i.e. the Jews, is the double-headed and only main issue. 100
Posted by Ivan on January 13, 2012, 09:42 AM | # Creativity is the key to good propaganda. One of the many things I loved about Dr William Pierce was his unmatched creative genius: each of his famous weekly ADVs broadcasts convoyed the same basic idea but with a unique and creative touch every time. His “successor” Erick Glibbe is the opposite - says the right things, but it is impossible to endure his pronouncements more than ten consecutive seconds. He is extremely dull and ineffective. 101
Posted by J Richards on January 13, 2012, 11:18 AM | # anon @25 As you’ve noted, the reply to your gene capture proposal is here: http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/intelligence_or_control_of_the_money_supply Since your complaint about the money masters video has no substance and you provided a reason for complaining elsewhere, that’s where you’ll find my response: http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/intelligence_or_control_of_the_money_supply#c121196 Dr. Lister @90
As I’ve told you before, you can blog here. In this manner you can engage others in ontology and political theory to your heart’s extent. I don’t do these things, I don’t complain about them and I don’t object to their discussion. You should adopt a similar attitude toward issues that you’re not interested in. On the eugenics proposal you’ve referenced, that is a single incidence by someone who can’t even come up with a better handle than “anon.” Why should you give a rats? 102
Posted by J Richards on January 13, 2012, 11:26 AM | # CS @57
Fighting tooth and nail is some resistance? If it was mostly at the elite level, who were the common soldiers? The elite had the backing of the people. And it wasn’t just in the distant past. Have you forgotten about National Socialist Germany?
If you could get it started, it would meet the fate of Libya. Libya under Gaddafi didn’t allow Jewish control of the money supply, and when Gaddafi started making a sincere proposal for a pan-African currency that the Africans themselves would create, it was time to depose him. North Korea also doesn’t allow the Jews to control their money and would’ve met the fate of Libya a long time ago if it hadn’t built itself into a military machine and developed nuclear weapons. Unless you have a way to develop a white zion armed with nuclear missiles pointed toward and ready, at any moment’s notice, to rain upon one or more of New York City, Los Angeles, The City, and Tel Aviv, you’re not impressing me with the plausibility of settting up a white zion with the Jews under control of the global money supply. You’ve brought up this discussion many times. One time I gave you a plausible scenario of how Jews could destroy a whites-only nation in a certain geographic region via “natural” earthquakes and tsunamis caused by nuclear weapons. You didn’t respond.
Then don’t do anything about it. My advice is to start here: http://www.majorityrights.com/money#implementation If you’re unwilling or unable to do any of this, do whatever you want except for posting the notion of a white zion all over the place here. Limit yourself to one entry only. Let this be it, or if you want, I can make a dedicated post for this issue. Just don’t go around posting this thing all over.
There’s no need to eliminate central banking. As to money, money as a fiat of law can make the tons of Jewish money worthless. Refuse to monetize gold and the piles of it Jews have will be a largely worthless mass of yellow metal.
If… that’s the big thing. For someone who’s been posting on the topic left and right, you’ve never attempted to develop a plausible scenario of how to bring about this matter. This plausible scenario would have to account for manifest examples of Jewish determination to prevent communities from living outside a system controlled by them. There’s the example of the assault on growing one’s own food: http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/starvation_to_keep_the_masses_on_a_leash There’s the example of the destruction of dams: http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/damned_dams There’s the example of using uranium instead of thorium for nuclear fuel: http://falkvinge.net/2011/10/03/warmongers-have-ruined-nuclear-power-for-two-generations/ There’s the Waco incident: http://public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/index.html There’s the Ruby Ridge incident. A couple of years ago, Jews attempted to mass disrupt a white religious community by charging them with child abuse and attempting to take the children away from their mothers. This incident shows how Jews could easily destroy a secessionist community. The Feds catch child molesters all the time. They could give some of them a deal: prison or work for us. Those who agree to work for the Feds will join the community and organize themselves around the children for the purpose of grooming them for sexual activity, but no molestation is to take place until instructed. When the time is ripe, all of a sudden there will be a rash of child molestation cases, and there will be hard evidence of it in the form of children with sexually transmitted infections and damage to their private parts. Bingo! The secessionist community, if part of a nation, is finished. If a separate nation, they can expect the wrath of people worldwide. There’s the 1995 Oklahoma bombing, a false flag intended to destroy the militia movement: http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt.htm And it goes on and on… It’s basically clear that Jewish [money] power has to be destroyed first. You’ve not attempted to develop a decent argument as to how a white zion could be created without doing anything about the Jewish factor or how it could be sustained in light of one of several ways Jews have at their disposal to bring a nation to its knees [ http://www.majorityrights.com/norwegian.massacre#promise ]. If you wish to make this attempt, do it in one place. If you want a separate post dedicated to the topic, I’ll make one… just say so, but don’t go around posting the same thing over and over just about everywhere.
As if the basic outcome would be of a different nature if the person were running for President! Duke is a kosher Nazi. If you want examples of the real deal, look at John de Nugent and Lyndon LaRouche Jr.; both have run for President… see how many national debates and radio interviews they got. LaRouche Jr. ran for President of the U.S. every year between 1976 and 2004. Jews did everything in their power to suppress his message, demonize him and even had him imprisoned. How many Americans have heard of him? de Nugent didn’t have LaRouche’s money, but was vilified among nationalists and sidelined by the phony nationalist groups Jews have set up.
The BNP was created in good faith but Tyndall’s message [Jews OUT!] was sidelined and the BNP destroyed [infiltration, etc.] due to relentless Jewish efforts. As to “the voters telling the world… if they don’t vote BNP,” this is ridiculous and totally non-applicable. Which between the fire and frying pan is a better solution? On the one hand you have mainstream political parties that don’t seem to be doing anything about immigration issues. On the other hand you have a group representing the “demonic, evil, Nazi types” that brought the horrors of WW2. Who to vote for? In this scenario, you’d have to convince the people that the “evil Nazis” are a Jewish invention, that the holocaust is a Holy Hoax, etc. Only when the people are informed of the truth can their vote be used to infer whether they mind seeing Britain being filled with non-whites. But toward this education, what do you do? Far from helping clear lies about the National Socialists, you start at MR lamenting the fact that Hitler invaded Poland and thus got us into this big mess. This is the big Jewish propaganda that blames the act on his territorial ambitions, madness, criminality, etc…. anything except the real reason, which was that ethnic Germans living in the territory that had been taken away from Germany were being slaughtered by Jewish Bolshevists to provoke Hitler into attacking Poland, thus providing the excuse to trigger WW2. Hitler didn’t just attack right away. He pleaded to the League of Nations. Nothing happened, and he was forced to intervene. But far from attempting to clear this matter up in the minds of the public so that they see through Jewish media attempts to portray immigration restrictionists as “evil Nazis,” you promote Jewish propaganda! And then you pass judgment on those who don’t vote BNP! Get it straight. And don’t post on white zion all over the place. 103
Posted by danielj on January 13, 2012, 11:28 AM | # Serious. J Rich is a bad ass counter-semitic cyborg!!! And why the fuck isn’t Dr. Lister producing articles about biology for us? Bioethics? Biophilosophy? I’m going to start calling you Dr. Lackluster… 104
Posted by J Richards on January 13, 2012, 11:33 AM | # Silver @63
Your lies are easily exposed since the script of this video is up at MR: http://www.majorityrights.com/money/american-history As anyone can see, far from having a problem with fiat money, they recommend it as sound money, and they don’t have problems with central banking. What they do have a problem with is with control of money by private bankers, and they point out that one of the ways these bankers go about enriching themselves is via fractional reserve banking (FRB).
Any nation can reduce its debt burden in the short term via a combination of reducing spending [fewer services for the public], increasing taxes [burden on public], handing over land and other resources to the bankers as payment,... and this could happen even as a result of the bankers themselves facilitating a relatively greater rise in GDP for a short while as they have to relax conditions every now and then to get the people to take on more debt, which could temporarily cause an increase in productivity (GDP) at a greater rate than the increase in debt, or the GDP may increase to a greater degree than debt in the short term because the bankers are sending it lots of jobs from other nations… But what of the long term? The picture is clearly of increasing debt overall, which is bound to happen when governments who could issue their own money, created out of nothing, just as they issue bonds, don’t issue their money, borrowing it at interest from bankers who create it out of nothing.
The Fed is a name, which isn’t important. They emphasize that private banker issuance of money and the control of the money supply is the reason for the long-term growth in the debt problem. They document it, too, whereas you spread lies.
People can watch the video or read the script and then read your comments and see who’s spreading disinformation.
Wages for most Americans haven’t kept paces with inflation. Mass immigration of the less skilled is a diversion. The immigrants cost us in the billions whereas bankers cost us in the trillions, and the reason for the immigration issue is the bankers in the first place as they must undermine ethnic cohesion and promote conflict among the people to keep them occupied with anything except what matters, reduce the odds of the people coming together to get rid of banker control… thus the cost of low-skilled immigration is appropriately assigned to the bankers’ schemes. 105
Posted by J Richards on January 13, 2012, 11:48 AM | # Jimmy Marr @68
There’s some good information on the ruling elites of England over almost a 1,000-year period. Because of upward social mobility of the lower classes and downward social mobility of the upper classes over the long term, a normal phenomenon, the ruling elite of the same racial stock couldn’t have developed a distinct genetic profile. There was a time when the ruling elite were of the Anglo-Saxon stock and the commoners were mostly of this stock, too, and the rulers were overthrown by Norsemen coming from France. Since the Angles came from Denmark, the Saxons from Northern Germany, and these along with the Jutes were very close cousins of the Norsemen, the genetics of the ruling elite didn’t change much but even so, within a few centuries alone, the Normans trickled down to lower statuses except for elite warriors and eventually blended into the population. So the answer for England is no. You can see a more detailed summary here: http://racehist.blogspot.com/2011/08/was-there-ever-ruling-class-1000-years.html Fuller details: http://tuvalu.santafe.edu/~bowles/RulingClass.pdf Because of the basic principles involved (regression to the mean), you can safely extrapolate it to most other nations with a long history of one race and the same race’s continuance. On the other hand, the reptilians Icke refers to is an euphemism for Jews. 106
Posted by Dasein on January 13, 2012, 02:34 PM | #
One of Pierce’s strengths was his ability to use the ‘official’ version of events like OKC and 9/11 to push his message. As I’ve said here before, I’m not convinced by many of the ‘Truther’ arguments (e.g. controlled demolition of the Twin Towers by therm[ai]te). The Pierce take on 9/11 (which is very similar to what Ron Paul is saying) is obvious and doesn’t require much, if any, studying (Mearsheimer and Walt’s LRB article is about all you need). It has a much better chance of winning people to the nationalist position than does talk about red/gray chips and (silent) controlled demolition. As regards OKC, Pierce’s ‘spin’ was that the government caused it by their actions in Waco and Ruby Ridge—it was inevitable that someone would be angry enough to retaliate. Again, simple, and once your barriers come down enough to accept that there might be some truth to it, you’re on the way out of the ‘matrix’. The only ‘conspiracy’ Pierce pushed was jewish domination of the mass media. Something that is much easier to prove, at least in America, than things like OKC and 9/11. 107
Posted by Ivan on January 13, 2012, 05:27 PM | #
Very good point. It is hard to imagine that Dr Pierce, as a physicist and as a man of superb analytical skills, couldn’t discern the utter absurdity of the official story of 19 Arab hijackers from the caves pulling off something like 9-11. Nevertheless he did not go down the path of proving scientifically that something completely different took place on that memorable day. Instead, like you said, he used it skillfully to push his agenda. That’s Dr Pierce - a man who had a clear vision of what is important, what can be achieved now, and what has to wait. He never stopped, he never flinched. He kept going to the last day of his life. He had his priorities right. He knew he was right, and history will prove it. 108
Posted by anon on January 15, 2012, 05:54 AM | # CS
I think the last bit is true but they’re doing it because they know they will be weakened. They’ve looted and sold all the industry. The credit’s run out. The only thing supporting the federal government is the dollar’s reserve currency status. Whether they’ll be weakened *enough* is a moot question but they’ll be weakened.
ditto. What you need are lots of healthy IQ 100+. They’ll produce enough genius outliers.
The Church gave them the monopoly on banking and money-lending through the usury laws and they held onto that from the fall of Rome to their expulsion from England in 1290. They *always* had control of the banking system, then they lost it, then they slowly got it back again. Also banking and money-lending has always been tied to goldsmiths and silversmiths. That’s the market niche they dominated hence why so many have gold and silver in their names.
Before paper money monarchs controlled the mints and had the monopoly on creating new coins. Jewish bankers would have had to go through the monarchies to get their hands on the minting process and i assume the monarchies played along for a cut of the profits as they always needed money for wars but there’s no reason for that relationship to continue after the control of the money supply went to elected parliaments. dc
I think you need to imagine two states: one is where they are small in numbers, mostly invisible and operate almost exclusively in particular high-value niches like gold, silver, diamonds and slaves. The former leading directly into banking and money-lending. In this form they’ll try and create some kind of symbiotic relationship with the political authority for protection and mostly avoid trouble apart from stealth financial banditry. They can exist like that for centuries in a kind of dormant form. The second is where the numbers become too many not to be noticed like the mass immigration to Britain and America from the 1880s. The immigrant swarms get noticed so the banker ones target the newspapers and other media piece by piece to make themselves invisible again. Taking over the media might initially have been a defensive move but once achieved it becomes a cultural weapon even without intent simply through the effect of unconscious ethnic hostility seeping out. I think they’ve spent most of their history as a small tribe of nomadic financial bandits, slave traders and conmen. It was only after their population explosion in eastern europe they got the numbers to consider replacing whole national elites and turned into a major menace. I don’t think they took full control of Britain or America till the 1980s.
It has a good perspective on that time period especially the newspaper angle.
Jews have been inbreeding for 3000 years. This makes them very tight-knit and instinctively hostile to outsiders. White people used to be as well e.g. vikings, but not for hundreds of years and this has led to a completely different mentality making it hard for most of them to even comprehend that Jews are in a permanent state of war. I think white people need to have a rational explanation for why this is so before they’ll accept or even notice it. The inbred redneck stereotypes they created with their media can be used to get the point across - focusing on the hostility to outsiders.
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Posted by Wolf on January 07, 2012, 04:12 PM | #
http://inversions-and-deceptions.blogspot.com/
Many good articles on the subject of the neo-liberal elite.