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Nordic Beauties?This is a contestant for the upcoming Miss Universe 2005 pageant (May 30). Guess what nation she is representing?
The contestant is Helene Traasavik, from Norway! Figure 2 shows Miss Denmark!
Figure 3 shows Miss Netherlands!
Figure 4 shows Miss Germany!
Some beauty contest, right? And, for those who would like to see Miss Sweden, guess what? There is no Miss Sweden for this year because the Miss Sweden contest was cancelled because of [Swedish] feminist protests! These lame so-called “beauty contests” are a pathetic and perverse mockery of the concept. Every now and then the winner is an attractive white female, but this is just so that PC-considerations several years in a row don’t alienate the audience. What are the chances that any of the following contestants will make it in the top 3, and, especially, what are the chances that the top 3 winners will comprise of three of the following (which they rightfully should)?
On a personal note, I would rather have the current Miss South Africa flee the hell-hole of South Africa and settle in the West—let the black Africans represent African nations in beauty contests. More importantly, I sure do hope that the future residents of Northern Europe do not start looking like the “beauty contestants” shown in the top four figures. Posted by J Richards on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 03:27 AM in Ethnicity and Ethnic Genetic Interests, Race realism Comments:3
Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 05:20 AM | # Actually, I blogged on beauty pageants and womanhood last October:- http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/17/ This effort among pageant organisers to stay relavent and be Pee-Cee and race blind has been going on for a long time. It is contrary to the interests of their audience and will harm their (the organisers’) commercial interests. That audience is predominantly female and white. Beauty is the female lodestar - at least, while is not overtly sexual. It quickly becomes a male fascination when a certain limit to decorum is reached. In the end, white women have no interest in the beauty of non-white women because the idealisation of beauty is a very private and particular thing. It must have a point of contact with the idealiser, and that is broken when the race of the “object” is changed. (Now, surely “object” must upset some dynosauric, 1970’s feminist somewhere!) 5
Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 05:30 AM | # The pity is, Mark, none of them will “vote” for you or me. 7
Posted by Braveheart on May 17, 2005, 07:51 AM | # Don’t forget Miss Belgium:- http://www.eurobru.com/tatiana2.jpg Lady Tatiana Silva Braga Tavares from Brussels (or should I say Cape Verde, where both parents come from - mom is dead and dad has left the country) She declared shortly after her election: “I wanted to become the first miss Belgium of foreign descent (BTW don’t believe everything, there already have been others with coloured skin) and by this I wanted to show that the multicultural composition of Belgium must not necessarily lead to conflicts, but rather can be an asset of cultural diversity.” Flanders, 8
Posted by Geoff Beck on May 17, 2005, 08:56 AM | # Every day of every year our governments betray us; we are now enslaved and have no power in the land of our birth. When will we fight back? Each minute of delay is death advanced. 9
Posted by Martin Hutchinson on May 17, 2005, 08:57 AM | # Sorry chaps, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As a pure blooded blue eyed Aryan who would doubtless have been seized into the Hitler Youth but would have found its emphasis on physical fitness utterly repellant, I have to say that 1-4 are far more attractive than the boring bulbous blondes below. All 4 could perfectly well be Italian or Greek, and live in Scandinavia owing to energetic Viking miscegenation. 10
Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 09:53 AM | # Martin, My comment above referred not to male desire but to the female idealisation of beauty, and this is the medium through which pageants should be understood. The appreciation of beauty is genetic. Woman is not intended by Nature to idealise a beauty which she cannot genetically possess. It must lie somewhere within the possibilities of her imagination. Absolute impossibility breaks the spell, and her interest is gone. Yes, one is aware that there are still East Asian women who submit themselves to blepharoplastic surgery. But they are sad and untrue to themselves, and not a satisfactory basis to determine what is going on here. Incidentally, I disagree that no.1 to 4 could pass as southern European. The nearest is No.2. 11
Posted by JW Holliday on May 17, 2005, 10:44 AM | # Martin: “All 4 could perfectly well be Italian or Greek,” I see that as incorrect, and a gross distortion of the actual typical phenotypes within Europe. I agree with GW that only #2 could comfortably fit into those populations. The others? Absurd. Look at the picture of #1, on the right, for example. Perhaps perfectly well being a Dominican or Puerto Rican. There is too much subjectivity here. This is why I prefer to concentrate on genetic assays and genetic interests. I for one would be more interested in seeing the biogeographical ancestry profiles of these specimens, rather than the photographs. I realize I may be in a minority of one on that, an “ultimate” guy in a world full of “proximates.” 12
Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 10:51 AM | # I for one would be more interested in seeing the biogeographical ancestry profiles of these specimens, rather than the photographs Damned if I need some bio-whatsit profile for Michelle. Photographs please. And a telephone number. And a dinner date. What am I saying? My wife would kill me. 13
Posted by JW Holliday on May 17, 2005, 10:55 AM | # JR, It would be helpful if we could obtain information of the actual ethnic ancestries of individuals 1-4. Is that available, to your knowledge? Can you provide the data? 14
Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 11:18 AM | # What am I saying? My wife would kill me. I hope your wife doesn’t read MR or if she does, she doesn’t know who “Guessedworker” is….... 15
Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 11:29 AM | # Sorry chaps, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As a pure blooded blue eyed Aryan who would doubtless have been seized into the Hitler Youth but would have found its emphasis on physical fitness utterly repellant, I have to say that 1-4 are far more attractive than the boring bulbous blondes below. All 4 could perfectly well be Italian or Greek, and live in Scandinavia owing to energetic Viking miscegenation. Martin, It is absolutely true that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and there is no iron law that says white men will only prefer white women and black men only prefer black women (for example). But I think you are missing the larger point here. I don’t think any of us would deny that there are lots of exquisitely beautiful women all over the world, if one were talking about this as a purely academic question. And I would be lying through my teeth if I said that I was never attracted even once to women who weren’t white. The issue however is (they say a picture is worth a thousand words) that these women represent permanent and irreversible change in the racial makeup of sections of the population of the countries they choose to represent. This is the central point about it. Not whether blonde Michelle is sexier than dusky Asli Bayram. If this population displacement (or as Fred Scrooby calls it Race Replacement) is acceptable, why is it only Europe, the US, Canada, Australia/New Zealand that must be subjected to it? What is so particularly evil about people of European descent that they deserve to be slowly wiped out? And if one were to be consistent, Martin, then I cannot see why one should oppose Galton’s plan to slowly displace Blacks with Chinese in Africa. It should be completely acceptable to you. But you said earlier that its not. Are you saying that you oppose race displacement for blacks but have no problem if its done to whites? 16
Posted by Kubilai on May 17, 2005, 11:38 AM | # Sorry chaps, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As a pure blooded blue eyed Aryan who would doubtless have been seized into the Hitler Youth but would have found its emphasis on physical fitness utterly repellant, I have to say that 1-4 are far more attractive than the boring bulbous blondes below. All 4 could perfectly well be Italian or Greek, and live in Scandinavia owing to energetic Viking miscegenation. Phil beat me to the punch here. If it were me and only me, I would have no qualms of “having my way” with any of the young women pictured. However, it goes beyond what our primative male yearnings are all about. Phil said it quite well and I’ll leave it at that. 17
Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 11:51 AM | # If it were me and only me, I would have no qualms of “having my way” with any of the young women pictured. Indeed. Ahem. Lets not get into that….... 18
Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 12:04 PM | # One of the more amusing aspects of this is that quite often when one argues with GNXP types or conservatives who like race-mixing (usually young conservatives), any argument against race-mixing is usually met with pictures of good looking non-white or mixed race women, with the question : “And you’re opposed to this?” My answer is: “Yes, because I don’t decide my politics after listening to my penis. I decide my politics after listening to my brain. And its a shame all those philosophers from Socrates to Nietzsche spent so many hours thinking about what kind of political order they wanted to create when all they needed to do was go around and check where they got the best hard-ons.” 19
Posted by Svigor on May 17, 2005, 12:04 PM | # I’d take any of those Nordic women over the poster children of maladaptive white race psychology. They’re more attractive and in my experience white women suffer far less without makeup than non-white women. I’m not into dark mustaches. 20
Posted by Svigor on May 17, 2005, 12:08 PM | # Can one of the luminaries here or perhaps a lurking GnXp type explain that I consistently see a masculinity in non-white women that I don’t in white women? This may be accepted as a loaded question, but it isn’t offered as one; I genuinely see it and I’d like to know what the thinking is, whether it’s a chimera of bias or a function of kinship or ev psych or a combo or what. 23
Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 12:23 PM | # Svi, I think you are probably observing objective reality. You could, though, check for papers on variations by race in female serum testosterone rythmicity. In his Race, Evolution, and Behavior, Prof Rushton quotes data showing that black females reflect peak variations observed in males. The deep timbre of the black female voice may be associated with those variations. I am pretty sure that the widely observable pliancy of East Asian women is also reflected in blood testosterone production, their output being lower than white women and much lower than blacks. Therefore, in terms of “non-masculinised femininity” you may wish to re-examine the absolute ascendency of white females. Birch Barlow could be on to something here! 24
Posted by ben tillman on May 17, 2005, 12:38 PM | # Regarding Martin’s comment, all I can say is, de gustibus non disputandum est. Though I have found other non-European women attractive, these four don’t do much for me. Biologically, of course, it is adaptive to engineer a little one-way gene flow, so it is not surprising that most of us, in varying degrees, have a propensity for such attraction, though it is a bit odd that one would prefer the alien. The issue however is (they say a picture is worth a thousand words) that these women represent permanent and irreversible change in the racial makeup of sections of the population of the countries they choose to represent. Yes, “represent” is precisely the right word. The choice of these women is a representation that we no longer exist; it is a representation of genocide not as an inevitability but as a fait accompli. 25
Posted by Braveheart on May 17, 2005, 12:54 PM | # “masculinity in non-white women” I understand what you mean, but I think you should see it otherwise. The dusky ladies here more correspond to what I would qualify as the “Paris manequin ideal”. That type certainly also exist in “white”. But why not (so much) in a beauty contest? That’s the next question. Flanders, 26
Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 12:57 PM | # Johan, The strategy of a high-class couturier is to help women judge the clothes. The strategy of a beauty pageant organiser is to help women judge the beauty of the contestants. The fact that European women cannot idealise beauty based upon a non-European display of it is consistent with the objectives of the couturier. The clothes will be the star. The question, then - and the point of JR’s post - is why are so many non-Europeans representing European nations? The answer, I suppose, lies with the selection of the judges to the national pageants, the instructions they operate under and the wider pressure to accord with the feelgood, bien pensant, PeeCee bullshit that comes at us from every quarter of the skies. 27
Posted by JW Holliday on May 17, 2005, 01:38 PM | # I did some searching. Traasavik = half-Thai Hanspal = Indian father (a GNXP delight!) Sopacua = described as “half-Indonesian” or “Indonesian” (probably half) Bayram = Turkish Note that another Miss Germany, Shermine Sharivar, is of Iranian extraction. Those are the ethnic facts of the cases - facts being better than the Sailerian technique of posting pictures and having himself (or his wife; eg, Shelby Steele “looks Greek”) express their personal opinions. 28
Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 03:53 PM | # She gets my vote
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Posted by Kubilai on May 17, 2005, 07:55 PM | # Phil, she can have more than my “vote”, if you know what I mean. 30
Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 08:12 PM | # Easy my friend! This is a family forum….... 32
Posted by dlg on May 18, 2005, 12:48 PM | # For me, nos. 1-4 are far more attractive than any of the bland-looking Nordic ladies posted. Putting beauty in quotation marks for them is just silly. There is a larger point to be made, of course, about the political considerations that motivate the selection of these contestants. 33
Posted by Guessedworker on May 18, 2005, 02:47 PM | # I think the larger point is JR’s point, dlg. Or to be precise, non-Nordic phenotypes as the embodiments of female beauty in Nordic Norway or Denmark speak of an unnatural, politically imposed universalism other nations would immediately reject. As an Anglo-Saxon with a blond wife and blond child I don’t want any such imposition in my England. And I want to disempower those here who do. 34
Posted by J Richards on May 19, 2005, 02:42 AM | # Braveheart: Other than Miss Belgium, even Miss France is non-white. However, in my post, I decided to focus on Northern European nations because the physical contrast between the non-white women shown and the white beauties in Northern Europe is striking. JW Holliday: You have yourself answered your question about the ethnic ancestries of the women in the first four figures. I didn’t bother finding out their ancestries because they clearly look non-white. Of course, these women could have substantial European ancestry, and this is indeed true, as you have pointed out. However, one point in my posting is that these women have multiple traits—other than skin color—that are either non-European or borderline European, and their “attractiveness” notwithstanding, they are not suitable as representatives of European beauty. Even if the woman in Figure 2 had overwhelming European ancestry—and there are dark outlier Europeans with some unusual facial features that are unrelated to non-European admixture—the woman would still not be suitable as a representative of European beauty in any European nation. Representatives of European beauty should have a minimum of facial features more characteristic of non-whites, i.e., the woman in Figure 2 could not possibly be considered an attractive European woman, even if she were overwhelmingly genetically European. Svigor: You ask whether it can be explained why you “consistently see a masculinity in non-white women” that you don’t in white women. This answer can be addressed with rigor, and I do plan on addressing this issue in my future posts. With respect to facial anatomy, non-Europeans have retained more ancestral traits than Europeans, and the ancestral traits often happen to be more robust. Robustness is also a correlate of masculinization, though robustness is not necessarily a consequence of masculinization. Compared to our long-deceased ancestors, contemporary humans have more gracile facial features, which are most extensively seen among Europeans, and among Europeans, most extensively seen among some Northern European populations. Therefore, what you have observed is that non-European women, on average, have more robust facial features than European women. 35
Posted by J Richards on May 19, 2005, 02:51 AM | # dlg: If you believe that the women in the first four figures are more attractive than the white women shown, chances are that you are either non-white or a plain-weird white person. Irrespective of your race, it is likely that the moral of the following story applies to you. The Fox and the Grapes: One hot summer’s day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. “Just the thing to quench my thirst,” quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “I am sure they are sour.” Moral: It is easy to despise what you cannot get. 36
Posted by Kubilai on May 19, 2005, 10:52 AM | # Moral: It is easy to despise what you cannot get. - J Richards This has to do with it partly, in my opinion. I do think that White women were unreachable to many races previously, hence the subconscious attitude of viewing them “less attractive”. I think what is more in play currently is the constant bombardment of the media that states that the epitomy of beauty is a mulatto, black, or some other “exotic” looking female. To me, this is preposterous thinking and “logic” for the simple fact that rarity increases value and we know that pure blonde haired, blue eyed women are truly rare on this planet. Blacks and Browns are in over abundance and are common. For someone like dlg to state that the blondes are “bland” is absurd and indicates an internalization of thorough brainwashing. 37
Posted by Lurker on May 19, 2005, 12:12 PM | # I think they are all pretty hot but they are not representitive of their countries - which is the point. If Miss Kenya or Miss Nigeria “just happened” to look like Scarlett Johansson or Marilyn Monroe, an army of PC termites would emerge from the woodwork to complain and demand something be done. 38
Posted by Linda on May 24, 2005, 01:17 PM | # Oh my God, I’m not going to read all the comments, but aren’t you a bit shallow? Or shall I call you a racist??!! 39
Posted by Guessedworker on May 24, 2005, 06:26 PM | # Linda, We are challenging your assumptions which you have acquired from the liberal-left. The liberal-left has condemned Europeans to “freedom” through equality - which means deracination and dispossession. If you can comprehend this you can get past using words like “racist” and “multicultural” as real-life statements. They are leftist political statements. Nothing more. It is a pity you haven’t read the thread because then you would have come across this statement of mine:- ... non-Nordic phenotypes as the embodiments of female beauty in Nordic Norway or Denmark speak of an unnatural, politically imposed universalism other nations would immediately reject ... which contextualises what I said at the start of this comment. In a word: we want our people to survive as they are. This is the highest calling in political and national life. Don’t allow your acquired liberal-left sensibilities to blind you to that. 40
Posted by sofyap on May 27, 2005, 07:36 AM | # Miss Germany, Asli Bayram, is lucky to be alive, let alone competing in Miss Universe. When she was 11 years old, she was forced to watch as a neo-Nazi neighbor forced his way into her home and murdered her father in front of his young family. The fact that she is representing Germany—and is proud to be doing so—is a sign of forgiveness and trust overcoming hatred and racism, not an “unnatural, politically imposed universalism” as one small-minded bigots said. 41
Posted by Guessedworker on May 27, 2005, 08:10 AM | # Sofyap, Criminality is not an issue. I will not allow you to divide the world between the “criminal” and “small-minded” who wish our European peoples to be sovereign and live alone, as they also wish, in their own homelands and the “forgiving” (but genocidal in effect) minorities, supported by an even more forgiving (and genocidal) marxist liberal establishment. Are you European by extraction? If so, you evidently do not value European racial identity? I suggest you think hard on that before you return to this thread. 42
Posted by Ranjith on May 30, 2005, 10:55 PM | # What a bunch of Euro Trash crooks here. You people are full of hate. Grow up, you sore losers. 43
Posted by J Richards on May 31, 2005, 05:51 AM | # Ranjith, The only person that has spewed hate within this thread is you. Bro, you are the one who needs to grow up. 44
Posted by Sandra on June 11, 2005, 03:08 PM | # the 4 mixed europeans are wayyy prettier than the plain, boring, pale blondes…definitely… 45
Posted by Sandra on June 11, 2005, 03:19 PM | # ...and i’m not just saying that because i’m not caucasion before you make assumptions…i just stumbled across this thread and i had to post because i think you people are WEIRD! lololol why can’t you just relax ease into the 21st century…we have planes and ferries now if u haven’t realised and people are free to roam the earth…you people are crazy and backwards and don’t like other races…and don’t bother posting back because i just came across this thread and i won’t be back…peace and love xxx 46
Posted by Kalaizi on June 29, 2005, 12:44 PM | # This trend has gone on for some time, only in reverse. In Latin America, India, Asia,... nations have chosen the whitest (read most western European) looking individuals to represent them. Today, Europeans have chosen the most ethnic. These nations are simply trying to win. They are not representative of anything other than that. I think you all read far too much into what is essentially a sport. How many of you complain about non-whites in any of your other games? 47
Posted by Kalaizi on June 29, 2005, 12:47 PM | #
Well that is not going to happen. Humans change, evolve, and MIX with other humans… this is has been the way of mankind for thousands of years. You think you alone can stop it? 48
Posted by J Richards on June 29, 2005, 05:18 PM | # Kalaizi, The situation in Latin America and India is very different from that in the West. Whiter and more Caucasoid features are desired by most people in India and Latin America. Therefore, if their beauty contestants are light-skinned and more Caucasoid-looking than the norm, then it reflects what is desired by a large proportion of the population. In the West, the overwhelming majority of whites do not wish to become darker or acquire non-white facial features. Although a tan among whites is often desirable, a preference for a tan is not the same as a preference for naturally darker skin; one prefers a white person with a tan. Without political correctness at play, there is no way the non-white women shown could compete* with attractive white women in a genuine beauty contest because the overwhelming majority of whites would consider attractive white women (examples above) a lot more attractive than attractive non-white women. Beauty contests such as the Miss Universe contest are not sports. In sports, the winner is decided by merit, but in the Miss Universe or equivalent, smart answers to questions and political considerations play a major role in determining the outcome. Besides, many whites actually ignore black-dominated sports such as basketball. Human populations do indeed change and mix with each other, but not all changes are desirable, and warning others about negative changes is what we are doing. * The non-white women would not be barred from participation; they just wouldn’t come anywhere close to winning. 50
Posted by Darla on November 09, 2005, 02:05 PM | # Just a question to some of the guys up there: have you EVER been to scandinavia? 51
Posted by celina on November 09, 2005, 02:43 PM | # ‘‘The non-white women would not be barred from participation; they just wouldn’t come anywhere close to winning.’’ 52
Posted by J Richards on November 10, 2005, 08:39 AM | # Darla, I am not sure why you ask whether any of use have been in Scandinavia. If this is because you assume that I think that all Nordic whites are blond, then this is surely not my belief. Scandinavians are blonder than other Europeans but they are certainly not an all-blond people. Celina, When I said that non-white women wouldn’t come anywhere close to winning, I did not mean that the competition would be rigged against them—if this is how you have perceived it to be. It is just that their beauty would be no match for Nordic beauty and hence the non-white contestants would not be making it to the top. Of course, I do realize that a lot of non-white women rank well in international/mutli-ethnic beauty contests—thanks to political correctness rather than their beauty. This is actually a good example of anti-white prejudice because better looking white women end up ranked lower than less attractive non-white women. As far as the non-white women being gorgeous goes, they surely are better looking—from the perspective of whites—than non-white women in general, and a lot of this has to do with their part-white ancestry…just take a good look at Negroid, Mongoloid and Australoid women with negligible white admixture and tell me how good they look from the perspective of whites. On the other hand, the non-white women shown above are no match for white beauty, especially Nordic beauty and do not deserve their rankings. 53
Posted by BERNARDO SURIPATTY on January 17, 2006, 01:34 PM | # I CANNOT believe all of the things that were said in this topic. looks like pure racism to me and really short sided views on things. Europe now a days is race-wise a reflection from people all over the world…it is only normal that this reflects on to this miss world thing aswell. I am from The Netherlands/Holland AND i happen to be the same mix as Miss Sopacua…half dutch and half Moluccan(indonesia) (google that
it is the year 2006 people…. funny thing that the canadian Miss who won 2005 is originally from i believa russia 54
Posted by Guessedworker on January 17, 2006, 02:29 PM | # Bernardo, Are the peoples of Molucca threatened with genocide in the 21st century like the people of Holland? “Your” multiracial world is not theirs or mine. Their country and mine are being occupied by aliens under the coersion of liberal laws. Our political and intellectual elites have decided to abolish the ties we have to our own lands. They have not asked us whether we want this. They simply make resistance illegal/immoral when, of course, it is natural and highly moral. Do you seriously expect us to accept this situation indefinitely. Would you expect the Mollucans to accept it if it was happening to them? 55
Posted by USAGuy on April 08, 2006, 11:27 PM | # This conversation has gone to the other side of the pond, we have had this for a while in the US now its in Europe. In the US, we have women like J. Lo and Jessica Alba. The more traditional American blonde is getting more and more rare, in fact, where I live I see more hispanic types than anything else. the first four women could easily pass for Hispanics in New York or Los Angeles. I myself have no preference for any race. 56
Posted by Jo on April 30, 2006, 03:12 PM | # I’m Danish and thanks for the support Denmark. Yes, we have more blondes and blonds (male) up here than in fx. the UK or US but the blonde stereotype is highly exaggerated and I don’t think they look more Danish than brunettes or redheads. The women on men’s magazines are most often brunettes and the issues with a brunette model on sells more. Blonde models are used for the weekend ads and sometimes in women’s magazines because blonde is the homely and common color here. Being a natural raven (adopted from Thailand) I often experience the same kind of preferential treatment from men and hostile treatment from women that blondes talk about in the UK and US. I’ve heard the same from natural brunettes here and a group of brunettes and I often experience the more common blondes at kindergarten meetings and events excluding us and keeping their husbands away from us. Just something to think about… 57
Posted by MrZ on May 29, 2006, 10:46 AM | # Interesting but useless debate. Of course white women are the most attractive women in the world. They are the most desired. Ask any Asian, African or whoever ‘other’ male. To all the politically correct do-gooders..Nope, this isn’t something thats been propaged by the western media on defining beauty. It’s actual preference. For example..place a good looking blonde in any african or indian village, and she will be jumped on. Place a african girl in any european village, and they will think a crop worker has got lost, and send her away. 58
Posted by Stephen Edwards on May 29, 2006, 03:19 PM | # Fred, you’re putting the cart before the horse. If we don’t have any scientific evidence for Negroes and Euros being separate species then your theory can’t account for much. 59
Posted by Nio Zilda on May 29, 2006, 10:38 PM | # Blacks & whites members of different species…maybe one could define ‘race’-mixing as bestiality & outlaw it that way 60
Posted by Nio Zilda on May 30, 2006, 12:07 AM | # Yes, if you compare a very extreme West African negroid type with a Nordic, you are virtually looking at different species, the morphological differences are so great. On the other hand, if you use the more common interfertility criterion, I suppose the most arguable species, or at least sub-species, barrier in modern humans is between those with rh+ blood and those with rh- blood. 61
Posted by boreal on July 09, 2006, 12:26 PM | # Just was googling on miss universe and encounterd this discussion. A very interesting one. 62
Posted by Reality on August 07, 2006, 07:43 PM | # WE are enticed into a conditioning of a stanadard beautiful that has all the fasination of a northern light, however, but like too much symettry and convention, hypnotic perfection loses its appeal after some short time and then we are back to idiosynchrony where the individual prefers on the whole, exploration and diversity through malalignment. Some people are obssessed, fascinated with certain films or music they repeat the tracks for some weeks until it girates to boredom…..no amount of idealism is stable or consistent just as the human brain. I wonder if say a vital organ had ultimate beauty if it indeed would appeal to a less attractive face or if say a beautiful face had slight gauntness that it detracted from potential ultimitism? - I had always thought movement had a great deal to with what beauty is considered to be!. I am an exact replica of image one but with a shorter neck, larger and almond eyes and milk bottle white and definitley curvier…..I am a hot chick and always never short of male attention, however, the point is that men can get bored despite what fascination lies beneath it and in relaity cannot handle being with a beautiful woman as it raises feelings of insecurity and yet, all that we are are mere projections of what we are perceived to be. Models all over the world are some of the most lonliest because of the categorzation, airbrushing, model perfectionism that even themselves cannot live up to their own standards of beauty and removes them from the mainstream which most men prefer being inside the crowd - not isolated with a beautiful woman for the rest of their eternity. It is romantiscism warped and like all ordinary women, models etc have off days, periods, dentures, improvements to emphasise what they think is ultimate in beauty stanadards that a great deal many are not in fact interested. Cultured, intelligent and truly attractive people are fascinated by Inuit, Native, aborigional as well as all other creeds and cultures and are not restricted in their tastes for one sort over another. Colour is cometicism when it depends upon volumes of shade and tone, movement that defines what is attractive to one and not another, our perceptions alter according to a great deal many of things and contradicts time-thought in imagery if this concept is understood? I have seen some very soft pictures of Deborah harry in one light and one side of her profile and that of a sharper contrast and my own perception alter drastically. For an appeal to be constant, it has to be a premeditated, conditioning that cognitive process have become familiar and persuaded by the perception. There truly is no such thing in this instance for humanity to have a decive notion of what perfection really is and explains why we may have our favourite foods and cars etc, but we rely upon variation to make informed choices that alter with every perception even if we stick with our choices. I’d like to see an argument that could possibly contradict this article! 63
Posted by Reality on August 07, 2006, 08:49 PM | # The point to my earlier post is that, it is just so easy for economic profiteers to exclued and alienate the less familiar racial groups on the globe that are inevitably perceived for instance, with the kind of ignorance we are by now apt in the art of anti-diversity. No one particular group has consciously selected this except for what works economically in a globalized marketing industry. Therefore, our acknowledgements of other diverse races competing for instance and whatever the political motive, are misinformed when we have only our alienated perceptions to rely upon ‘selectivism’ and we are only given a selected few choices of racial identities of representative beauty. Multi-culturalism is thus ill-defined and contrasts cannot be adequatley argued. Arguments turn pathetic when comparing shades of skin that are either appealing or not or shapes of noses. These women are all grouped in the same light of exclusivity and europeanism whether origin comes in to it or not - they are all representing a euopean world-view called inclusion. External races are somewhat out of this equasion and some of the most exquisite of people’s of the world are denied any opportunity and left for the National Geographic society for some amount of perceived portrayal. All in all, we are more threatened by our own ignorance than by any concept of racial identity competitiveness that is merely based upon media projection and our own perceptions of what we really are still primordial beneath elaborate justifications of our likes and dislikes. 64
Posted by J Richards on August 07, 2006, 11:12 PM | # Reality, There is no need for you to resort to postmodernist language. The scope of this entry is fairly straightforward: Nordic nations should be represented by Nordic whites in beauty pageants. Just as non-white races have their own beauty pageants, white women should have one of their own, too. Cultured, intelligent and attractive people who are fascinated by non-whites are more than welcome to attend and focus on non-white beauty pageants. They shouldn’t make a mockery of beauty pageants by having non-white women represent European nations and having less attractive non-white women outcompete better looking white women. I do not know what you tried to convey about Deborah Harry; she is not attractive. There is a great deal of physical diversity in Europe, and some of this diversity is also found among the ranks of attractive white women. In other words, nobody is proposing some very strict standards by which female attractiveness should be judged. If you are indeed an attractive woman, consider submitting a picture of yourself to us. I could use you as an example of what whites stand to lose if non-white genetics creep into the white gene pool. 65
Posted by Kurt on September 11, 2006, 09:09 PM | # Yeah, these Nordic girls you posted are very attractive. But hey, the mediterranean / mixed girls are pretty attractive too. Oh well… we all have our own taste. My favorite trait is red hair. 66
Posted by Nordicpanther.com on October 09, 2006, 08:33 PM | # Mixing is an interesting concept. What’s so odd about white supremicists is that they believe that people of color are trying to put an end to their race. If you bozos are truly greater than the rest of the world it would be a good idea to spread that wondrous genetic material to help the lesser peoples of this planet. You put cream in cofee not the other way around. The White supremecist movement is backed by a bunch of rhythmless little dicked wet cardboard clammy bozos who need some black pussy. (or yellow pussy or red pussy or tan pussy yatta yatta yatta .) It is your “Purity” that divides you it is your social disorder that has placed you on the endangered species list. Darwinism should prompt you to evolve. _nordicpanther 67
Posted by Guessedworker on October 10, 2006, 05:25 AM | # A very Jewish sentiment, “Nordicpanther”. It is our genetic integrity that is under attack, as you well know, and raising a defence is not “supremacism”. I suggest you recommend the Falasha anti-miscegeny law be repealed and a Palestinian law of return be passed in Israel forthwith. 68
Posted by Anya on January 07, 2007, 01:53 PM | # hmm I can’t understand why you regard the fact that only blond hair/blue eyed women must be an ideal of beauty? Time flows and ideals change. And beaty isn’t defined and unchangable conception,it’s different in everyone’s eyes. For example I think that women with blond brows look uninteresting,dim. And I like only miss Finland (from those 3 blond women above).I don’tlike thin lips either. 69
Posted by Anya on January 07, 2007, 02:35 PM | # that’s Litvinova-nothing special
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Posted by Lurker on January 07, 2007, 08:26 PM | # The three girls look ‘dim’ do they Anya, your powers of observation are prodigious indeed. 71
Posted by Deena on April 17, 2007, 02:54 AM | # Hi guys,I think that all of them are nice so what’s up with the racist issue? 72
Posted by Guessedworker on April 17, 2007, 03:43 AM | # What’s up is that Jewish and/or liberal “scientists” such as Ziv, Le Roi and Rhodes are promoting white miscegenation in the cause of greater beauty and evolutionary fitness. They are the racists, not us. We are the defenders of white interests and the white right not to be lied to in a hidden cause. Wake up. 73
Posted by ok on April 21, 2007, 11:18 PM | # I feel the austrailian one and the south african one are the best ... while, dutch one is the worst.. what did dutch men think?? brainwashed?? 74
Posted by ok on April 21, 2007, 11:40 PM | # from 1-4 in order of preference 2 slightly like 4 slightlt like 1 sorta dislike 3 hate! over 75
Posted by uuu on April 21, 2007, 11:45 PM | # “and i’m not just saying that because i’m not caucasion before you make assumptions…i just stumbled across this thread and i had to post because i think you people are WEIRD! lololol why can’t you just relax ease into the 21st century…we have planes and ferries now if u haven’t realised and people are free to roam the earth…you people are crazy and backwards and don’t like other races…and don’t bother posting back because i just came across this thread and i won’t be back…peace and love xxx “ we do not object to that they respresent their own race.so mr richards said: “I would rather have the current Miss South Africa flee the hell-hole of South Africa and settle in the West—let the black Africans represent African nations in beauty contests.” 76
Posted by okk on April 22, 2007, 12:21 AM | # “Of course white women are the most attractive women in the world. They are the most desired. Ask any Asian, African or whoever ‘other’ male. To all the politically correct do-gooders..Nope, this isn’t something thats been propaged by the western media on defining beauty. It’s actual preference. For example..place a good looking blonde in any african or indian village, and she will be jumped on. Place a african girl in any european village, and they will think a crop worker has got lost, and send her away.” so, will smith ,etc didn’t marry white women,(they could of course ) because they know PC was only surface ,not stable?? remeber the old hollywood.no one protested at the marriage between May Britt and Sammy Davis Jr or joanna shimkus and sidney poitier, but their career had declined since then 77
Posted by uuu on April 22, 2007, 12:36 AM | # well, Ziv, Le Roi Rhodes should get themselves each a black wife first, then go on doing their promotings 78
Posted by Ana_·.* on May 30, 2007, 06:16 AM | # latin beauty is the best!! :D im half spanish half colombian and i must say that our beauty is more real and exotic than those superblond barbies.. i have nothing against blonds really, but i few years ago, and latin girls are the oppsite of that, we are brunettes, have dark eyes, tanned and curvy luckily that is changing and now latin girls are being the most beautiful 79
Posted by Celtiberian on June 05, 2007, 01:00 PM | # Without words. Conference international public in Moscow for the white survival. Here is Western, absolute silence. 80
Posted by EC on June 05, 2007, 03:38 PM | # Hey now, after reading all your comments about the European beauty contest, can anyone really blame Sweden for opting out of what is really…shall we call it an insipid, silly event? I personally find all of these women beautiful, but that’s not the key issue here, is it? I have to admit I was shocked, as usual (you people keep me coming back for more upsetness every day and I’m afraid that now I’m hooked!) to see the people chosen to represent those countries. wth! Yes, my jaw literally dropped! I could care less if people find my comment racist—as if that is worse than the bulldozing of my country, it’s people and it’s culture! How many more generations before the blue eyes and blonde hair have forever been erased from the genepool? I don’t hate other cultures, but when they threaten to swallow up mine, something called basic instinct for survival kicks in. Is it too late to do something about this? 81
Posted by EC on June 05, 2007, 04:26 PM | # One last post to illustrate the point that the question raised is not one of beauty, but rather of appropriateness of contestant to the nation represented: Here is a simple test to see if you have been brainwashed.
So, which of these women would you think should be the logical candidates to represent Sweden (or any of the Nordic countries)? Who would you vote for? If you chose any of the first three women, something is wrong with you. Period. End of story. 84
Posted by Super Amanda on June 18, 2007, 09:47 PM | # How dare you have Birth of Venus and use my country of origin to decorate your bad logic! Face it: WHITE MEN raped, fell in love and/or married African, Asian, Latino and Native American women all over the world and started this race mixing you deplore and ‘blame the jews for’ centuries ago. White women want and have wanted curly full hair, fulller lips, smaller waists, with higher protruding butts and they tan themselves to death literally. Don’t blame the media because white women are very intelligent and we can think for ourselves. You may also be surprised to learn that like Jessica Alba, Lynda Carter aka Wonder Woman and Raquel Welch are also half Mexican and Bolivian respectively yet I’m sure none of you would have a problem calling THEM “white.” Bottom line, hateful men and their dumpy unattractive women have no comprehension or appreciation of true beauty and intelligence. Bleached silicone clones in black latex does not a true beauty-much less a Venus make. Don’t drag the beautiful women of Italy via the masters of art into your 19th century gross minterperations of Darwin , capice? 85
Posted by ohp on June 19, 2007, 02:38 AM | # Amanda, Your “country of origin” didn’t exist when Botticelli was alive, and your Sicilian peasant ancestors might as well have been living in a different universe for all they contributed to the Florentine Renaissance. You know nothing about the tastes of white men, and you don’t speak for white women. You have a very limited view of history if you think race mixing began with European colonization. The existence of Australian Aborigine-European hybrids proves some men will fuck absolutely anything rather than face celibacy. Such cases do not prove white men find Aborigine women more attractive than white women. No one with eyes is surprised Jessica Alba has mestizo ancestry, and no but you cares about “wonder woman”. “Bolivian” is not a race, and Raquel Welch is by all accounts of entirely European ancestry. Bottom line, someone of your proportions shouldn’t be ragging on “dumpy” women. To be fair, as dumpy women go, you’re not ugly (no rolls of fat visible with your clothes on), and I’m sure you’d look quite good in your natural environment (a Sicilian farm field). But your chest, which a quick glance at your site tells me you’re inordinately proud of, is not impressive for someone with your high body fat percentage. In the future, please try to preface your link spam with original thoughts, rather than MTV talking points, capisce? 86
Posted by Tommy G on June 19, 2007, 03:07 PM | # After viewing your video, Amanda, all I can say is: WOW! VA VA VOOOOM!!! If you weren’t so voluptuous, in would be inclined to agree with Fred…but I think you deserve a pass. 87
Posted by Copperhead on August 27, 2007, 05:06 PM | # In all of these countries these splendid women beat out what was previously passing as beautiful. If you think there is something wrong with that I suppose it is obvious that you are a dying breed, and should go the way of the dinosaur. How intelligent is it to keep making ugly people for the purpose of national pride? I think you fellas need to think with your dicks on this one because your brains are obviously over thinking this. As for the bozos who are tossing insults at one country or the other… If you use telephones, Railroads, Lightbulbs, Gunpowder, Peanut butter or anything else developed by other “Races” you have been benefitting from the genetic contribution of so called less intelligent peoples. If you still believe mating with a curveless thin lipped pasty skinned woman who can’t play in the daylight for fear of sunburn is something to aspire for…Or perhaps love to lay in bed with a man with similar weaknesses to his changing environment… There was a reason why modern man replaced chromagnan. I imagine they had similar discusiions like this. 88
Posted by Alejandro on October 22, 2007, 06:49 AM | # I think that these mixed race women are miss scandinavia is simple pathetic. 89
Posted by Tyrone on January 12, 2008, 03:01 AM | # Your war is over and we have already won. Like in the days of Noah, we will win over the white race by any means. #1 we will out mate you. #2 We will steal you woman and breed you out. Learn to love it. 90
Posted by Andrew on January 12, 2008, 03:54 PM | # Even if that be true, you and your ilk are not capable of producing a society that can sustain it self, other than revert to primitivism; the seeds of truth lay in your ancestral shit holes , there for lends more credence to the fact that when those that are capable are gone from the Western world, so will the prosperity and ability. So on your line of thought, enjoy your primitive living hell parasite. 91
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 04:29 PM | # LOL How funny, I had forgotten about this ignorant web page! 100% bet that none of you can get by without more personal attacks on me-ad hominem is the first refuge of a hateful scoundrel or would that be patriotism? Ambrose Bierce was right. How about a page of photos for Dr. James ‘Black Brother’ Watson and his 16% African ancestry-how funny, he slags blacks and ends up with 16% African dna, makes one wonder what all the rabid racists have to hide but I’m sure you have arationality for that too. If you can’t see it it can’t be right? “Raquel Welch is by all accounts of entirely European ancestry.” That’s why she call herself “finally out of the closet as a Hispanic” now and proudly starred in “Tortilla Soup.” That’s not how SHE views herself !
You know what? Women are beautiful and sex rules, you want to try and redirect the floe of lava from a volcano, good luck but it’s never going to stop. keep it simple , BREED WITH WHOMEVER WANTS TO BRED with you and don’t worry so much about what other people are doing out of their own free will. TRAVEL THE WORLD virtually all of it is incredibly beautiful it’s greed , materialism and cruelty not love and sex between the races that has screwed everything up. GET A LIFE! 92
Posted by Guessedworker on January 12, 2008, 04:46 PM | # If you are a half-caste, Amanda - and I guess you are - you’re a racist half-caste. Get some morals. 93
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 05:15 PM | # Sorry but I’m about as half caste as Edgar Winter! I’m white and I’m proud! It’s in my DNA and my life you stupid pig. I’m just not an ignorant racist about being white but if it threatens you and pisses you off good. “Half Caste” oh plaese low IQ city and bad outdated expressions. You Brits should now better you are becoming more and more like suburban Americans everyday. 94
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 05:21 PM | # Please do not respond to me, anyone, unless you have read all my comments, not just the last one. I could careless about race but one someone takes a beautiful work of art that they had nothing to do with and uses it to try and frame their web page that surrounds their disgusting theories of beauty and social Darwinism then i like to throw it in their face that they do not define what is beautiful and what is white. Genetics and DNA does, so stand in line at the lab racist haters and let’s see where you REALLY are from. 95
Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 12, 2008, 05:25 PM | # You grant women the vote, and you can kiss your nation-state good-bye. Forever. 96
Posted by Guessedworker on January 12, 2008, 05:30 PM | # Then are you Jewish? In any case, it IS racist to wish genocide on a people, Amanda. There is deep immorality in your advocacy of miscegenation, and nought but honour in our rejection of it. Look, read this document, which is the UN’s Declaration of Rights of Indigenous Peoples, approved by the General Assembly in September last year. For example:-
Now, would you care to argue that Europeans in their own living spaces are not indigenous peoples, and do not qualify for the protections afforded above. Good luck with that. 98
Posted by Andrew on January 12, 2008, 06:32 PM | # 16% African DNA? , that prompts another question or two; how do you know this? And what other species are crossed bread with you?, What mongrel breed of DNA constitutes the remaining 84% DNA, and as G W pointed out , this may well go along way in explaining the pathological traits you display, and the super wind bag nagging. It was a few weeks ago, I had observed a dark; , Very Dark skinned woman, who displayed European facial features, Very distinct European features although the skin color was as if the tree had to be shaken quite hard for her to fall out, I was some what taken and mesmerized by her appearance. You are left with a strange feeling of ; What the hell is going on here. 99
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 07:08 PM | # “Then are you Jewish?” About as Jewish as Osma Bin laden! I’m, a white agnostic Italian American woman , it’s on my birth records it’s my DNA and it’s my cultural and racial heritage and while I understand that multi-cultralism is not the answer and that people do better races-when they can embrace their culture without feeling ashamed racial superiority and extremism is not the answer. I think it IS unfair that in US public schools you can’t study Scandinavian, Italian, Greek or Dutch etc etc history with out someone screaming “white supremacist” at you . I’m also a bit annoyed that the only cultural documentaries on PBS seem to be on Jews or blacks beacuse frankly in public schools you are taught more about their history then our own if you are of European descent and THAT is unfair because I WANT TO LEARN ABOUT BOTH. Sadly, the only place a proud European American has to turn to for cultural identification in the US is to extremists who are hateful sometimes in the guise of pseudo science but usually extremist like on Stromfront Italian Americans have been very hurt by multiculturalism in the states. Black, Jews , Mexicans have been careful NOT to assimilate and to retain their culture but Italians have foolishly wanted to be Northern European/Irish/ Anglo Americans and distance themselves from the Mediterranean influence (re: North African) and that has been a big mistake beacuse Italy is a very separate and important country with it’s own greatness which i discovered when i moved there for year back in 2002. remember I’m from the states, our view of race is not like someone from here in the UK. That’s a whole other book to write!
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Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 07:20 PM | # Andrew: READ MY PRIOR COMMENTS! We are not disagreeing. I’m simply pointing out that SO many people who get angry about” race mixing” and call it all these awful things like the “end of beauty” and the end of race etc need to be very careful about what they are saying. James Watson, who STOLE the DNA double Helix discovery from Rosalind Franklin and went on to win a Nobel Prize claimed blacks were inferior and then his own DNA test revealed that he has 16% African DNA. Hahaha Most white Europeans, even the whitest of the white, have about 2-3 % beacuse that’s where we all originate genetically. For Watson to have 16% means one of his grandparents was of predominately African origin. I could careless but someone so nasty and racist such as Watson recalls an old adage If you want to solve the white issues of feeling shut out then create FRIENDLY groups that allow Europeans to celebrate being who they are without SHUTTING OUT and being hateful. Better yet, take people as individuals. 101
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 07:22 PM | # “super wind bag nagging.” 102
Posted by Andrew on January 12, 2008, 07:23 PM | # I should have added that a reason for African contamination is the basic premise for argument of the primitivism that was Islam during its Occupation of Northern Africa and European Nations; Just as Islam is the genesis of the Mafia Movement, it is responsible for a great deal of Criminal behavior in its sexualisation and the taking in abundance in its polygamist programming. You see, back then they beheaded Infidel Kaffir males, Raped and enslaved the women and children, so technically your Great Great –Etc Grand mum was a rape victim, and you need to remember Barbaric Moslems do not ask for your hand in marriage, or possible . that she was hoarded in with the African Black slaves, so now what of your proud heritage of having 16% African DNA; Shame and Guilt In the knowledge your Great Great – Etc Grand Daddy is a Mass Rapist; and you pretend to accept this ? So how does it feel to have literally some polygamist bastadry in your family tree? 103
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 07:48 PM | # “So how does it feel to have literally some polygamist bastadry in your family tree?” You tell me! Ok this exactly what I’m talking about. South Africa is a country where whites as well as blacks have suffered and both races deal with racial violence. The world media spins a ridiculous myth about what has happened there post Apartheid and it’s completely wrong and yes, white are victims of inexcusable racism and violence not just blacks. you have to understand that I listen to many Afrikaners who are on YouTube vloging from south Africa and it is a massivley painful and unfair situation that Americans and many Brits are completely ignorant of. I don’t know what to say apart from how sorry I am for all races and cultures in that country not just blacks. This might be situation where one would have to consider racial extremism as a way of surviving to see another day dawn. Black AND white Africa is completely forgotten by the world media until a Colonialist style celebrity steps in and that’s a crime against humanity. 104
Posted by Guessedworker on January 12, 2008, 07:52 PM | # Amanda, Do you know the basis of the asay to which Watson submitted himself? Autosomal testing, if that’s what it was, does not demonstrate percentages of this or that. Indeed, it is much abused in exactly that way. Read here and here. Then stop waving around the Watson deception. 105
Posted by Calvin on January 12, 2008, 08:07 PM | # By the moniker alone I just knew that “Super Amanda” would be a tedious hysterical leftist parrot, something about the awful, aspirational middle classness of the name “Amanda” vectors with the sick-making smugness of the self assumed “Super”. Can this shrieking nonentity be exculpated swiftly please? 106
Posted by Andrew on January 12, 2008, 08:22 PM | # I would be very reluctant to draw any conclusions about DNA strands from modern publications, and suggest it would be better to examine the Original finding and discoveries , then work my way up from that point; it is difficult to decipher what constitutes true science and Pseudo science these days, unless there is an absolute objective analysis; accompanied by what is physically known and Observable- being behavioral patterns- all of a sudden the Proletariat theses of the Useless Idiot brigade; “ We are all equal “; has some what of an impact as a large meteor hitting the earths surface- “Screw you”, No thanks, my wife would castrate me. I can not for the life of me agree or even concede that African DNA is in us all, unless it is planted there by ancestral acts of aggression; You see it now with such aggression of these primitive minds in Western Societies aided and abetted by Governments ; Aboriginal communities here are Observable, just as Moslem Immigration and African Refugees- Meaning; There is not much hope left for our future. Racial exreamism seems to be the prevocative measure used by Global Socialism, These entities are deliberatly conspiring against normality. 107
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 08:30 PM | # “Can this shrieking nonentity be exculpated swiftly please?” Calvin, go back to your madonna albums and BNP leafleting leave me be. Super Amanda comes from a Russ Meyer classic called “Super Vixens” where large breasted Amazonian women attack a hapless male who is rendered terrified and helpless. No fairy tale this. 108
Posted by Calvin on January 12, 2008, 08:38 PM | # Who cares if there is an African component to the European gene pool? The fact that a few stray sub-Saharans pissed in the gene pool in the past is no reason to allow them to turn it into a communal latrine in the present. It’s a bit like saying that because thieves stole your TV on monday, you shouldn’t bother to lock your door on tuesday. 109
Posted by Calvin on January 12, 2008, 08:48 PM | # Amanda There is an online site that grades weblogs. I collected all of your comments on this thread and created a pseudo-blog. Your “blog” was graded as “high-school”. Even my discarded crap blogs come out as “genius”, as does MR. You are so clearly out of your depth here you should depart before the obviousness of your mediocrity permeates your dullness and reaches the necessary critical mass to subsumes your vast appetite for attention. 110
Posted by Al Bundy on January 12, 2008, 09:01 PM | # “Super Amanda comes from a Russ Meyer classic called “Super Vixens” where large breasted Amazonian women attack a hapless male who is rendered terrified and helpless. No fairy tale this.” LOL. You must then be summarily be reported to - NO MA’AM (National Organization of Men against Amazonian Masterhood). You, Amanda, are a menace to all mankind and should be publicly labled as such! 111
Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 12, 2008, 09:16 PM | # Friedrich blogs on the “Watson is part Negro” thing by posting a single comment from the long thread underneath this log entry over at Steve Sailer’s. 112
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 09:28 PM | # “online site that grades weblogs” Wow, you really know how to create an argument with scientific weight, do you have anything better to do? Sorry Calvin
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 12, 2008, 10:01 PM | # Paul Robeson, famous for being a non-Englishman Lady Mountbatten didn’t sleep with. 116
Posted by Calvin on January 12, 2008, 10:12 PM | # Amanda You “debate” with White nationalists all the time…..or do you just spam websites with outdated Coke ad crap like, “You know what? Women are beautiful and sex rules”? Paul Robeson is just an antiquated magical negro with a deep voice and slightly above average vocal talents. Your vehicle of choice for the demonstration of your morally elevating egalitarianism is as obsolete as your flower power rhetoric. 117
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 10:34 PM | # Morally elevating? I just encourage people to read history and not buy into what the media tells them to. Nothing is aay is hippie either, I hate hippie, they all became money grubbing liberals who trashed my Bay Area and turned it into an over priced consumer fest. Sexuality, as long as it’s not explicitly presented in mass culture which I abhor and is kept between responsible and consenting adults IS a better thing to focus on then violence and racial superiority. Vulgar old Madonna moving to your country really took your stock down, many of you are becoming materialistic bitchy fascists like she is. You need to make Lucy Pinder Prime Minster and you’ll all recover. I spam few websites by the way , most of my videos outside of You Tube are posted by others without my permission but since I allow embedding it’s not that big of a deal. “antiquated magical negro with a deep voice and slightly above average vocal talents. Your vehicle of choice for the demonstration…” Yeah, when you’re an All American and professional Football player, Phi Beta Kappa, Columbia Law school grad, record breaking Shakespearean actor, scholar, film star, and world renowned concert hall performer speaking half a dozen languages then I’m sure they’ll say that about you too. If these are fixed debates for “racial supremacists only” then they need to be “members only” until then i may find many blogs of note and interest on here with which to visit. Perhaps when my dream of interviewing Jared Taylor comes true it may even be reprinted on here and you can all say you “knew me when…” 118
Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 12, 2008, 10:39 PM | # Amanda, in your videos you flaunt your bosom the way gals with implants do: for the naturally endowed isn’t less exhibitionism the norm? 119
Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 12, 2008, 10:47 PM | #
If you come to the interview in your hourglass bustier, plunging décolleté, and transparent leotards you could make him lose track of his thought processes. 120
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 10:53 PM | # Yes, it’s true but exhibitionism is what most performers do, I also act in stage plays and sing and have an album out, you use the net to make new fans etc. Many of us have a natural love of showing off and in this day and age where the bar has been continually lowered and lowered until the world’s most famous money making women are exposing their vaginas, flaunting oneself nearly always fully dressed while doing nothing pornographic or even semi nude is extremely radical. 121
Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 10:57 PM | # “If you come to the interview in your hourglass bustier” LOL omg, now THAT would be a top selling DVd but that’s not me You just show up in a suit and interview or do an email interview. Taylor is fascinating despite how much I disagree with him. He lived overseas in Japan with missionary parents until he was sixteen and was an Ivy league graduate by his early 20’s. I have a lot to ask him about how he views the states. 122
Posted by Guessedworker on January 13, 2008, 05:49 AM | # Amanda, I am completed perplexed by your comment about black violence against the Boers in SA, and the political racism of the ANC. How can you have a good undestanding of, say, the Boer Genocide, yet exhibit this powerful need of yours for a simplified rhetoric against WNs. You cannot look at what WNs say without labelling it extreme so as to make it safe. I take it that you accept that there is a demographic question in the West. This is a result of factors both from within white societies - meaning our own Elites, our global corporations, and the self-destructive left - and from without, meaning Jewry and Third World immigration. European Man is a victim. His defence has nothing to do with “racial supremacism”, but is ALL to do with racial survivalism. It is not supremacist to wish to survive in one’s own living space. (It is not even “nationalist”, actually, but merely “nativist”). But you have a need to think of survivalists solely in the supremacist terms by which you can evade more complex argument. Raise your intellectual game, and put away the (actually, psychologically supremacist) need to belittle your oponent. If you are one of our people and if you do not miscegenate yourself, you ARE one of us. Our concerns extend to your welfare and to the future of your white (and Italian?) children. 123
Posted by Super Amanda on January 13, 2008, 06:22 AM | # “I am completed perplexed by your comment about black violence against the Boers in SA, and the political racism of the ANC. How can you have a good undestanding of, say, the Boer Genocide, yet exhibit this powerful need of yours for a simplified rhetoric against WNs. You cannot look at what WNs say without labelling it extreme so as to make it safe”
If i belittled anyone it was not my intention. I highly recommend a White nationalist You tuber by the name of Nordic Jawa who feels the way you do He is extremely friendly and fits the exact description you gave. We don’t agree obviously but he is an excellent person to debate with, here is one of his quotes: “Separatism is reflexively scorned by the media and the “intellectual” class. Often they are confusing it with segregation and Apartheid where one cultural group shares a nation with another cultural group but the one group is labeled as second-class and treated accordingly. Separatism gives each of these groups, tribes if you will, their OWN nation to govern as they please. Separatism is also often confused with supremacist. I would argue that many “kindhearted” Whites who want to give illegal aliens in this country the opportunity to work, are themselves supremacists. They are the ones who view certain occupations as beneath them and therefore better fit for a lowly Mexican. A separatist thinks all the jobs that need doing, in a workable nation, need to be done by members of their own tribe” 124
Posted by Guessedworker on January 13, 2008, 06:59 AM | # I’ll check that guy out. I have not heard of him previously. Thank you. You write, though: “We don’t agree obviously.” Well, we have established that you are not a Jewish or other ethno-aggressivist (though you use the debating tactics of such people). So what is to disagree with in the love of kind and a desire to see the future of his and our and your “tribe” stabilised and normalised? Is this a bad philosophy ... are “tribes” invisible to you? Is it merely that the separatist methodology sounds unfamiliar, mean or dangerous? Is it that you learned at Daddy’s knee that them nazis is bad ... bad, I tell you, and that’s all there is to it? Is it that you don’t like the type of guy you see hanging around WN? What’s going on in your head? 125
Posted by Guessedworker on January 13, 2008, 07:33 AM | # Amanda, I’ve skimmed somewhat through your Nordic friend’s output. It’s conversational, of course, and not very informative. He seems to have a good heart. But if he is going to speak to others in this way he would do well to deepen his knowledge, and to try to realise how the various elements fit together. For one thing, he doesn’t seem to understand that the evidential usage of genetic science issues and psychometric testing is refutation, not ideology. The broad function of all race-realism (like J Richards’ posts on beauty) is to refute the grotesque suggestion that we should be careless towards our own survival because “there is only one race, the human race” or “only Europeans are capable of racism-evil”, or whatever stratagem is in play. I see no sign that he has ventured upon the metapolitical - what to do - or philosophical - why to do it - either. I would like to see some acknowledgement at least that for all of us the first question is: how can I learn? Perhaps it’s somewhere else in the output I have not seen, but I doubt it. 126
Posted by Calvin on January 13, 2008, 07:43 AM | # Dear Amanda A persons status as a “magical negro” is based on the perception of the White majority (or at least the stupid part of it) of their social relevance their actual accomplishments are insignificant. The magical negro may be as worthy as Robeson, or as unworthy as King, their purpose is to assuage the guilt felt by White egalitarians at the persistent low social status of Blacks . It’s a bit like how the postal adoption of a Nigerian orphan validates economic well-being based on slavery and exploitation in China. Since we are bandying youtube links about, here’s one for you, 127
Posted by name on January 13, 2008, 09:14 AM | # “James Watson, who STOLE the DNA double Helix discovery from Rosalind Franklin” No. “his own DNA test revealed that he has 16% African DNA. Hahaha “ Hahaha. Ignoring the huge mass of logical fallacies stated or implied in your post, again, no. Watson did not take a “DNA test”. He allowed his genome to be sequenced and made publicly available. The sequence that has been released so far is incomplete, if not flat out wrong in key respects. deCODE ran an analysis on the bad data and subsequently made claims they could not possibly believe themselves, which scientific illiterates like yourself lapped up like dogs. See here: http://racehist.blogspot.com/2008/01/graphic-evidence-james-watson-admixture.html An admixture claim based on this data can not possibly have any merit (and that’s before we even look at the methodology). 128
Posted by Super Amanda on January 13, 2008, 04:29 PM | # “A persons status as a “magical Negro” is based on the perception of the White majority (or at least the stupid part of it)” I would seriously suggest googling Paul Robeson Speaks by Phillp Foner, Robeson was an intellectual giant and historian/political theorist of the highest caliber writing and predicting many of the situations in world affairs that we are dealing with now. I doubt you have any idea of how huge his life as intellect and scholar was or you would have not have made that quote better applied to Jackie Robinson. Perhaps he was perceived by Brits and US Americans as “magical” but that is not how he EVER perceived himself. he was ridiculously gifted from childhood to where it almost borders on too gifted, this has nothing to do with his race he was simply on in a billion. You don’t rate the largest FBI files in the history of all US born citizens because you are a ‘magical Negro.’ “I’ve skimmed somewhat through your Nordic friend’s output. It’s conversational, of course, and not very informative. He seems to have a good heart. But if he is going to speak to others in this way he would do well to deepen his knowledge, and to try to realise how the various elements fit together.” Hopefully Nordic jawa will visit here soon to join the discussion. Like me he’s from the states so issues and perceptions differ from the UK in many ways.
“So what is to disagree with in the love of kind and a desire to see the future of his and our and your “tribe” stabilised and normalised? “ I grew up in a wealthy neighborhood surrounded by one of the poorest and realized at an early age that it’s not about race but class. Wealthy people who had been ‘educated’ and who had ‘achieved’ could be some of the lowest, cruelest and trashy people despite all their bling. It was at this same age that I heard The Beatles and The Who and became enamored with a multi-cultural/black created art form known as ‘Rock N Roll’ and I developed a huge connection to the rhythms that go back to not just Africa but the hills of Kentucky and who knows where else. I also come from peasants that revere their own but are by nature oversuspicious of public institutions and groups that shut others out. 129
Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 13, 2008, 05:10 PM | #
Do Italians south of Milan (or south of Rome, or south of Naples) want Italy to become all Negro, all Chinese, all Subcon, all Turk, all Arab, all Romanian, all Pole, all Gypsy, or all you-name-it? If not, they’re nationalist enough for this site’s purposes, Amanda. Get straight what we’re talking about, please: we’re opposed to our own outright race-replacement and if you think race-replacement isn’t what we’re being subjected to you need new eyeglasses hun. No we’re not into being mean to anyone. We don’t get our jollies that way, trust me. We simply don’t want to see Euros driven out of existence in order to please this unholy alliance of global capitalists, homosexuals including the ones in the Vatican, highly-organized Euro-hating Jews, women’s libbers, self-abnegating Christians in general, clueless women voters (yes there are such things, I hate to break it to you), and the interest groups formed by the mystery meat that’s already gained a foot-hold in Eurosphere countries. That shouldn’t be hard to understand. 130
Posted by got milk? on January 13, 2008, 05:21 PM | # “You don’t rate the largest FBI files in the history of all US born citizens because you are a ‘magical Negro.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalind_Franklin “Wealthy people who had been ‘educated’ and who had ‘achieved’ could be some of the lowest, cruelest and trashy people despite all their bling.” Are you speaking of yourself here? 131
Posted by Super Amanda on January 13, 2008, 05:27 PM | # Brigitte Bardot must feel at least some vindication now, after all the violence that France especially Paris has seen due to immigration problems but xenophobia is not the answer. All of the tribes in Africa, whites and Asians included, need to meet and hammer out border disarrangements and boundaries at a general assembly with the UN overseeing. These tribal disagreements like the one in Kenya, are ridiculous and go back too far for anyone to make any sense of. So I guess what I feel is that the New world should pressure for a peace process , encourage domestic and foreign investment in these countries and that would take the pressure off of European countries who are filled to capacity with immigrants which by the way as anyone in London knows includes plenty of white folks aka Poles. Until whites can stop sending so many jobs overseas to third world labor or China the can’t scream about “race replacement.” As a teen I watched former Clinton, who appointed the most racially diverse cabinet in US history, send millions of jobs overseas and kill much of what was left in regards to Union labor. Now we have legions blaming Mexicans for economic and unemployment issues… 132
Posted by Super Amanda on January 13, 2008, 05:35 PM | # To the low life cancer who stole my photo, I am Italian and you are damn right I speak for my people in the states and in the homeland. I’ve lived in Italy I’ve researched my ancestry and as great as Arab culture is I have NO connection to it apart from the morphology that all Caucasians share so plaese deal with your own shit and stay away from personal attacks its just regards you to the lowest life form. I’ve had to watch the smoldering ltain beauty of Sophia Loren and Maria Cunniotti Grazia diluted ij the media by ‘flatchested only halfs’ like madonna and Gwen Stefani but it still does not give me a reason to act like an idiot despite the fact it annoys me. 133
Posted by Super Amanda on January 13, 2008, 05:41 PM | # “IQ and Bra size” No one’s TITS ARE THAT BIG!! I love the fact that all your attempts to shoot down my arguments are ad hominem, pulled from lame Wikipedia and shot through cyberspace on a computer with an Intel Pentium Processor gratefully invented by Jewish people. It’s an open forum I can express my opinion, i just see Brits becoming more and more Americanized via personal attacks everyday and it’s sad. 134
Posted by Super Amanda on January 13, 2008, 05:54 PM | # “Please explain how questioning Decode’s methodology and data (never mind their ethics) is equal to “superiority over other races.” The accuracy of the Watson data needs to be determined by science, not by the scribbling of a mammary-inflated ignoramus. “ ANY and EVERY TIME a white patriarchal thief or associated atrocity biased is exposed it’s rationalized and magically disproven as if it never occurred just as there is a liberal guilt and rationalization surrounding atrocities committed by non-whites . From The Belgian Congo to the Holocaust to the raping of non white women by Colonialist and slave owners to Watson being exposed for sexual discrimination anything that might create some kind of bad light magically appears as if it never took place… 135
Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 13, 2008, 06:03 PM | #
It’s not “whites” but white élites who are sending those jobs overseas. Whites who are getting shafted by the élites have every right to scream about race-replacement — I only wish they were! (So far I haven’t heard a peep!)
Madonna’s attractiveness problem (aside from her vulgarity, highly repellent by itself) is her mannishness, not her “flat-chestedness.” When you look at her you see a man’s face (not to mention a man’s behavior). Incidentally, she’s flat-chested? If mammary serves, she’s quite buxom up-top, no? (Please excuse that typo — no play on words intended, I swear!) Not that I’ve ever taken a good look at her — hyper-androgenic masculine women like her aren’t exactly my cup of tea ... Where the subject is women, sorry but I much prefer feminine to masculine ...). As for “flat-chested only-halves,” meaning half-Italian women, a recent bra manufacturer’s survey 136
Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 13, 2008, 06:09 PM | # (If the link in my comment just above doesn’t go to the right place click on it again.) 137
Posted by got milk? on January 13, 2008, 06:18 PM | # “To the low life cancer…” Do you refer to the breast cancer that may well be developing in your over-sized mammaries? “who stole my photo…” No, putting a link here to the jpeg image on your own website is not “stealing a photo.” It’s called “linking.” “I am Italian and you are damn right I speak for my people in the states and in the homeland.” First, you stated you are part Corsican. Granted, ethnically, some Corsican families are of Italian ethnic descent, but let’s be comprehensive about your ancestry, shall we? Second, one may wonder about your actual genetic composition. Thus, my comment may well hold. If you claim to speak for Italians, can we actually ascertain your genetic similarity to these people? Third, even if you are “Italian,” you don’t speak for tens of millions of people. You speak for yourself. Who the hell are you to speak for them, particularly when you are arguing against their interests? ” I have NO connection to it apart from the morphology that all Caucasians share” Some more than others. ” so plaese deal with your own shit and stay away from personal attacks its just regards you to the lowest life form. “ Incomprehensible gibberish. ” i just see Brits “ Do you think everyone here other than yourself is British? Read again the tits vs. IQ comparison. “ANY and EVERY TIME a white patriarchal thief or associated atrocity biased is exposed it’s rationalized and magically disproven” So, in your “mind,” the actual scientific validity of the Watson data is unimportant. As long as it serves the anti-white-patriarchal “cause” sloppy methdology and data are acceptable. Interesting. “pulled from lame Wikipedia…” With footnotes. That’s, of course, not as definitive as you libelling Watson as a “thief.” “gratefully invented by Jewish people.” Ah, yes, “Jewish people” discovered DNA, invented the computer, put a man on the moon - what else? By the way, where in my comment did I mention “Jewish people?” Are you Jew obsessed? “No one’s TITS ARE THAT BIG!! “ No, my point was that your IQ is that small. 138
Posted by Super Amanda on January 13, 2008, 06:25 PM | # Fred: “If mammary serves, she’s quite buxom” up-top, no? “ Madonna has always been average to very small busted. Retouching , her media hype and use of prosthetic cones has been helpful in creating what’s not there. To me she is the Anti-hourglass and devoid of not just the buxomness that i prize but of the ‘waist to hip ratio.’ “It’s not “whites” but white élites who are sending those jobs overseas. Whites who are getting shafted by the élites have every right to scream about race-replacement — I only wish they were! (So far I haven’t heard a peep!)” Yes, this is true but as nationalists how do you deal with so many Poles who have come to live in the UK? I’m curious to know. YES, British women currently have the best natural chests and pin up figures, Poland rivals them but it is by no means a photo finish-BRITISH WOMEN RULE BOOBS. The working class acts a lot like Italian peasants and are very loud so I feel at home Bethnal green and find it perhaps the nicest most welcoming place i’ve ever lived. Full of drama, good food, crazy people and individual responsibility. People in the UK just deal with race in less retarded way then in the states as evidenced in the time i spent in the East End. Paul Robeson had his most beloved and loyal fan base in the UK including friend and cohort Tony Benn. Tony is the greatest statesman/politician whom ever lived so I would say your country does so many things right that you should be happy and NEVER take that for granted. 139
Posted by Super Amanda on January 13, 2008, 06:32 PM | # got milk?: Ah hahaha you are very funny! I don’t claim to speak for Italians but you can at least empathize that it is my right to feel proud of what i am. Many of us are denied this ability in the states because of reverse racism-it’s REALLY uncouth. I wish Nordic Jawa would make an appearance as he 140
Posted by Guessedworker on January 13, 2008, 06:42 PM | # Amanda, You are very female. You don’t listen to a word that is said to you. I am the only Londoner in this discussion. Calvin is a fellow Brit. So far as I know everyone else in the vicinity is American. “Got milk” is very definitely one such, and someone who knows a little more about WN - and everything else probably - than Nordic Jawa. MR is not a British blog. It happens to be owned by a Brit. Have a look at the front page. You will get the idea. 141
Posted by got milk? on January 13, 2008, 06:49 PM | # Statement # 1: “I am Italian and you are damn right I speak for my people in the states and in the homeland.” Statement # 2: “I don’t claim to speak for Italians…” Got it. “...but you can at least empathize that it is my right to feel proud of what i am. “ Question: are you what you think you are? “I wish Nordic Jawa would make an appearance as he Right. As if we require the “wisdom” of “Nordic Jawa” - someone the likes of you endorses. 142
Posted by danielj on January 13, 2008, 07:35 PM | # Maybe I could explain nationalism in the States and additionally I have some connection to this whole issue. I have lived in the Bay Area for two years, I am half Sicilian and I am a nationalist. 143
Posted by danielj on January 13, 2008, 07:38 PM | # Oh… Who wants to hear what a right-wing half-caste like me has to say when the full-casted left-wing Amanda is rambling away speaking for descendants of Italians in the Golden State and America at large. 144
Posted by Super Amanda on January 13, 2008, 08:50 PM | # LOl I was just getting ready to put on my bowler hat and cry about how we ‘lost India’ and now I’m what I am again. “Question: are you what you think you are? ” Please elaborate. 145
Posted by Super Amanda on January 13, 2008, 08:52 PM | # daniel: I’m interested in what you have to say. 146
Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 13, 2008, 09:15 PM | #
When you put on that bowler hat, you should cry instead about how “we’re transforming ourselves into India.” It’s one thing the Brits lost it. Do they have to now change into it??? I mean ... I like India fine, but ... isn’t there supposed to be one India and one England, not two Indias and no England? Hey don’t be greedy, India! Give others a chance to exist too! 147
Posted by ben tillman on January 13, 2008, 10:31 PM | # “Raquel Welch is by all accounts of entirely European ancestry.” That’s why she call herself “finally out of the closet as a Hispanic” now…. Amanda, Spain is in Europe. 148
Posted by got jism? on January 14, 2008, 01:09 AM | # Oh… Who wants to hear what a right-wing half-caste like me has to say when the full-casted left-wing Amanda is rambling away speaking for descendants of Italians in the Golden State and America at large. Nobody. 149
Posted by silver on January 14, 2008, 02:45 AM | #
Is this “larch” aka “Halliday” probably aka “Michael ‘Nordic-Europeans-Must-Accept-Me-Because-We-Share-The-Same-Genotype-Meaning-Well-I-Would-Like-It-To-Mean-We-Are-Actually-The-Same-People-Despite-Often-Looking-Radically-Different’ Rienzi”? Shouldn’t you wait until Amanda’s genotype is assayed before you denounce her as an Arab? Or is testing only required of those who look unmixed but need to be tested to make asbolutely sure—in which case I can really your views gaining traction soon.
What arguments? Just what point are you trying to make? You’ve not been at all clear or consistent. Best as I can tell, you deplore the cant and double-standards surrounding race and immigration in America (and elsewhere), but feel that “xenophobia is not the answer”; you’re proud of being Italian and white (more former, less latter) but appreciate other races and cultures and feel that everyone else should, too. Does that about sum it up? If it does, do you understand why MR finds such a stance unsatisfactory? Also, what would you ask Jared Taylor? 150
Posted by Super Amanda on January 14, 2008, 03:32 AM | # I don’t like to talk about things too much until after they actually happen but “you’re proud of being Italian and white (more former, less latter) but appreciate other races and cultures and feel that everyone else should, too. Does that about sum it up?” Sort of. There has to be some way to embrace being white without being called a white supremacist or a separatist or even racist but i’m not sure it exists. I think it comes down to the individual. Yes, all cultures are worthy but i think it requires that one travel and live elsewhere extensively and that’s only an option to a limited amount of people so until that’s available the media and self created fears along with factoids substitute for reality. But I think of Bell Hooks whom I admire reading this and then I think it’s better not elaborate lest I seem as if I’m trying to dazzle the dominant male patriarchal paradigm. 151
Posted by silver on January 14, 2008, 03:46 AM | #
Do you understand why MR finds that unsatisfactory? 152
Posted by got silver? on January 14, 2008, 06:13 AM | # Is this “silver”, I claim to be in Australia but investigation says differently, I fear Nordicism but I do everything to promote it, I claim to defend southern Europeans but mock them, the fraud? The more you post, fraud, the more you convince GW that you are not who or what you claim. 153
Posted by got neucom? on January 14, 2008, 06:39 AM | # Two comments. #1. “Is this “larch” aka “Halliday” probably aka “Michael ‘Nordic-Europeans-Must-Accept-Me-Because-We-Share-The-Same-Genotype-Meaning-Well-I-Would-Like-It-To-Mean-We-Are-Actually-The-Same-People-Despite-Often-Looking-Radically-Different’ Rienzi”? #2. “Mr Rienzi seems to think that he can produce an unprecedented feeling of racial kinship among a constellation of European ethnicities by showing them that they share the same genotype as each other….. The familial bond is forged through… phenotype” Of course, the only people who “share the same genotype” are identical twins. How about those who use that phrase? What’s fascinating is “silver’s” interest in such comments in reference to debates with Amanda. No, she’s not going to be “assaying her genotype,” although she should if she’s claiming to speak for a group for which she claims identity. 154
Posted by silver on January 14, 2008, 08:05 AM | #
GW traced me to Sydney. Wrong city, but he got the country right.
I believe that when people talk about “white” that’s what they have in mind. I fear a nasty, militant version of it, sure. But I no longer think that a racially based social rearrangement necessarily need be a bloody affair. In any case, I’m not telling you what to think; I’m telling you what I think. You, on the other hand, appear to believe your views are so obviously correct that only a fraud or an imbecile could fail to accord with them, thus you angrily and impatiently shout down views even only slightly or innocently at variance with them. This approach is unlikely to win many converts.
For example? 155
Posted by got proxy? on January 14, 2008, 08:17 AM | # “GW traced me to Sydney. Wrong city, but he got the country right. “ Others claim you are using an Australian proxy service. There is no definitive evidence that you are in Australia; in fact, you can be virutally anywhere. “I believe that when people talk about “white” that’s what they have in mind.” What people? Some commentators here? Surely. “People” in general? That’s another question. “I fear a nasty, militant version of it, sure.” Which is why you’ve done nothing but promote it since you’ve been here. “But I no longer think that a racially based social rearrangement necessarily need be a bloody affair. “ Congratulations. “In any case, I’m not telling you what to think; I’m telling you what I think.” Not quite. You are telling us what you wish us to believe you think as a “Serbian living in Australia.” “You, on the other hand, appear to believe your views are so obviously correct that only a fraud or an imbecile could fail to accord with them…” No, although I suspect you yourself are a fraud, and evidence is mounting, “...thus you angrily and impatiently shout down views even only slightly or innocently at variance with them.” You can cite no examples - any views that I strongly disagree with are not “slightly” or “innocently” (?) at “variance” with them. Obviously, there is some large gulf there. Disagreeing is not “shouting down.” “This approach is unlikely to win many converts.” Converts? If I were looking for “converts,” this is hardly the place to start with. Exposing fraud is another matter. See above and your entire body of “work.” Curious that a person who fears “militant Nordicism” virtually quotes almost word for word from someone who actually fits that bill. 156
Posted by silver on January 14, 2008, 10:06 AM | #
The same applies to everyone. What evidence would satsify you, anyway? I cannot think of any, so this is just another attempt to discredit me?
As I said, I can’t see your way of answering it ever gaining much traction.
I’ve promoted militancy? Nonsense.
On the contrary. I live in Australia and I am far better acquainted with the range of racialist thought here than you are. Since my concession that the founding peoples of this country, people who still recognize each other as a coherent people, have a right to self-determination—one that excludes me—the evidence of my “fraudulence” has been receding, not mounting. I challenge you to prove otherwise. Citing evidence of my alleged nordicism is not evidence of fraud, it is evidence of nordicism.
That’s true. So why are you always so needlessly combative? 157
Posted by Alex on January 14, 2008, 11:59 AM | # Kalergi plan: exterminate white people crossing with black and asiatics people and low bitrh. 158
Posted by milk does a body good on January 14, 2008, 12:13 PM | # “Also, what would you ask Jared Taylor? “ Why he rejects non-white “cognitive elitists” and embraces “low IQ criminal whites?” How “mendacious.” 159
Posted by got decode? on January 14, 2008, 12:28 PM | # http://www.slate.com/id/2180067/ last few sentences, of interest. One is surprised that Decode didn’t come out and say that Watson’s comments about beauty are “ironic”, since “he’s really a woman.” 160
Posted by Calvin on January 14, 2008, 12:48 PM | # Amanda “A persons status as a “magical Negro” is based on the perception of the White majority (or at least the stupid part of it)” ME “I would seriously suggest googling Paul Robeson Speaks by Phillp Foner, Robeson was an intellectual giant and historian/political theorist of the highest caliber writing and predicting many of the situations in world affairs that we are dealing with now” YOU Would you mind explaining what part of “based on the perception of the White majority” you don’t understand? Are you really too dim to understand that a status based on the perceptions of others is one that does not necessarily have anything to do with a persons actual accomplishments? The fact that Robeson was a distinguished academic, but yet only became famous as a singer, and only became famous as a singer because he was cast as the forbearing and dignified victim of outrageous prejudice, shows that Robeson’s fame does indeed rest upon his being cast firmly in the role of “magical negro”. The fact that Robeson is not remembered for his intellectual brilliance underscores the fact. 161
Posted by Super Amanda on January 14, 2008, 04:04 PM | # “The fact that Robeson was a distinguished academic, but yet only became famous as a singer, and only became famous as a singer because he was cast as the forbearing and dignified victim of outrageous prejudice, shows that Robeson’s fame does indeed rest upon his being cast firmly in the role of “magical negro”.’ Calvin, you do understand that he was the most famous man in the world AS an academic and civil rights forerunner and that from about 40 years old onward the majority of his career was strictly political. He literally only sang or acted if it surrounded a political event or cause. You would have to combine the fame of literally four current celebrities and world figures to equal his own. Robeson never stood for multiculturalism nor was he a black nationalist, his journalism about Africa, the middle east and the US as well as Union labor in the UK and Australia is some of the best of it’s era. I’m sure most the people on this thread never heard of him. “The fact that Robeson is not remembered for his intellectual brilliance underscores the fact.” He’s specifically NOT remembered at all for anything beacuse he was one of the greatest and highest achieving US born citizens of nay race and beacuse he was really dark and really physically powerful (perennial concerns of the Flivver king/establishment that has psycho/sexual issue with black males) Any magic dust vanished for the last two deacdes of his career and he scared the sh*t out of the right wing on two continents. He is remembered as a singer/actor and advocate for social justice when he is remembered, that’s irrefutable. 162
Posted by super amanda's broken spell checker on January 14, 2008, 05:21 PM | # “I’m sure most the people on this thread never heard of him.” I’ve heard of him before your silly rants. A Marxist apologist for totalitarianism and genocide - with a “is it good for the Negroes?” mindset. “he scared the sh*t out of the right wing on two continents.” So did Stalin, particularly when he acquired nuclear weapons. Once again, one wonders. On the one hand, we have “Super Amanda” - with all the juvenile “depth” of a mediocre junior high school student fingering herself over a picture of on the cover of “Tiger Beat.” On the other hand, you have a lunatic like Lindsay. I’m not sure what “benefit” having both commenting here serves, unless, perhaps, it can serve as a matchmaker. Lindsay, meet Amanda. Amanda, meet Lindsay. Perhaps Amanda can meet Lindsay’s requirements for miscegenation. 163
Posted by Calvin on January 14, 2008, 06:35 PM | # “He’s specifically NOT remembered at all for anything beacuse he was one of the greatest and highest achieving US born citizens of any race” LOL! Reminiscent of Johnson’s assesement of women preaching, “Sir, a woman’s preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all!” Robeson was academically competent by White standards; case closed! 164
Posted by Super Lester Maddox on January 14, 2008, 10:49 PM | # “Robeson was academically competent by White standards; case closed!” No white person that you’ll ever be related or connected too!! “On the one hand, we have “Super Amanda” - with all the juvenile “depth” of a mediocre junior high school student fingering herself over a picture of on the cover of “Tiger Beat.”
Don’t go into a tirade about somebody sounding pretentious if you are going to sound even more pretentious. 165
Posted by D.E. Johnson on January 14, 2008, 11:31 PM | # What the fk; are you talking about? Don’t go into a tirade about somebody sounding pretentious if you are going to sound even more pretentious. Damn, Lester, I thought you were dead. Sorry about that. How are the kids doing these days? You know, silver, amanda, barlow. They always hated your guts, you know, but I always thought they would grow out of it, so I tried to be nice to them. It hasn’t done any good. You probably ought to just haul off and die, buddy, before they kill you in your sleep. Save you a lot of trouble. Let me know when you plan on taking care of that, and I’ll send you card or something. Cheers. 166
Posted by got maddox? on January 15, 2008, 06:13 AM | # “What the fk; are you talking about? “ 1. Amanda’s writing skills - and more importantly, thinking skills - are at the level indicated. 2. On another thread, Robert Lindsay is stating that miscegenation is the “answer” to the “problem” of the existence of the white race. Lindsay is white, therefore, I’m suggesting he mate with the the raven haired, round featured, huge jawed Amanda who, in my subjective opinion, is not what she thinks and claims to be. 167
Posted by Super Lester Maddox on January 15, 2008, 06:52 AM | # Oh you wish, I got papers you loser—I’m white and proud and loud and there is nothing you can and your micro endowed BNP butt buddies can do about it. It’s the law on my birth records I’m white white and very bright!! LOL It’s not some debatable thing i chose and i don’t care if you look and see a Nubian you don’t define another individual you inbred. HA"miscegenation” ridiculous. You never have sex or make love and are definitly unhappy it’s so obvious. Perhaps you are just sitting in the waiting for the end and wishing you were Lord Beaverbrook and wanking to Tyra Banks photos. 168
Posted by large jawed Arabess on January 15, 2008, 07:02 AM | # Gee, Amanda, don’t you know that according to the government, “whites” include “the original peoples of North Africa and the Middle East” as well as that of “Europe?” Don’t you know that wanted posters routinely label brown, predominantly Amerindian Hispanics as “white” - even sometimes Filipinos are labeled as “white.” I understand that having “white” on your birth certificate means to one of your limited mentality as being of native European ancestry. My “papers” in that regard go beyond a birth certificate. Why are you getting so upset about this - are you a racist? And who are you to talk about ad hominem? When you get all frustrated - your smaller than tit size IQ flustered by not being able to write, never mind think, coherently - you lash out with all the poorly written vulgarity of a retarded junior high school student. Note to Amanda: learn to write. Perhaps a friendly iman at your local mosque can give lessons. They’d appreciate you “coming home,” and all that. 169
Posted by jaw on January 15, 2008, 07:08 AM | # Here is someone else whose “papers” show that he’s “white and very bright”: Next entry: Human protandry (girls who turn into boys) revisited Previous entry: Harvard Reaches Out to Women Scientists |
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) my biggest thing is that she and i are living here because of dutch colonial history!!! and many european countrys have colonial history so THINK before u judge about mixing up races and all that BLA BLA BLA
Posted by Andrew L on May 17, 2005, 04:22 AM | #
That Green House Effect is realy bad in Norway,Cooking everyone brown, besides , how did this one escape the brutel cluches of the other Migrants, You Know, those ones. Islam or something.