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NATIONALIST RENAISSANCENATIONALIST RENAISSANCE by Constantin von Hoffmeister
Europe needs a nationalist renaissance. Globalization and liberal capitalism are twin monstrosities that threaten the ethnic identities of all true nations (not Frankenstein creatures like Belgium) on the globe. European nationalists must resist the siren call of pan-anything nationalism which is nothing but another form of cement block equalization. Ethnic particularisms must be cherished and upheld as a virtue in itself. Nations are the manifold manifestations of God’s thoughts in heaven. If he is angry he thinks Turkey. If he is benevolent he thinks Germany. If he feels lofty he thinks England. God made the nations in the images that he presents to himself on different days in the mirror in his bedroom. Nationalists of all colors and races must unite to form the Nationalist Internationale. Liberal capitalists are the active agents of the new Internationale. But the new Internationale is merely the old Internationale with a new and spiffy dress. Therefore the Nationalist Internationale is the true new Internationale. It is international but anti-internationalist. Nationalist unite against the Moloch of Parasitical Finance and Managerial Mismanagement! True socialism can only be nationalist and true nationalism can only be socialist. Only one’s nation can provide the framework in which one can truly prosper. Only among one’s own folk can one develop an identity which is not an aberration in the eyes of an angry God. A German likes wheat beer and quotes Schiller. An Irishman likes Guinness and quotes Joyce. It is as simple as that. An Englishman in New York can appreciate the legacy of his ancestors in the architectural marvels of Greenwich Village. One need not be a loyalist to realize the royal signature of a flat overlooking Hudson Harbor. One works for one’s nation as one’s nation provides for one’s needs. One puts in and one takes out. Outsiders do not put in and their ancestors have not put anything in, hence they do not have the divine right to take anything out. They are relegated to the status of onlookers with no right to participate or decide in the fate of the nation in which they are tolerated guests. The natives of a nation are the beneficiaries of the work of all natives of a nation. If one works for the benefit of the whole, one shall reap the glory of all. The wings of the angels spread far over the land… Archangel Michael watches over the fate of Romania. Dracula still reigns in the heart of the folk living beneath gothic arches and creaking steeples. Who has seen the sword smite the enemy of the nation? Will garlic help the enemies of the nation to ward off the righteous anger of the nation in revolt against foreign domination? The door shall forever remain closed to those willing to come in but not willing to share the pain and contribute to the riches. A nation is the cradle and the grave for those involved and only those. Nationalism is evolution in action. Practiced nationalism in different nations is applied natural selection. When one system of government in one nation fails, another system of government in another nation may succeed. When the system of government in a world state fails, the world is doomed. Diversity is nature’s safety valve to ensure the survival of the species. The species’ diversification manifests itself in the existence of different nations. Monocultures yield less achievements since the more highly evolved are forced to submit to the mass of the lesser evolved. Polycultures yield achievements based on the evolutionary stages the different branches of the species find themselves in. Thus, one nation can lead the species’ evolution since it can be more highly evolved than the rest of the nations combined. Humanity evolves in sections and sectors. A nation that applies technocratic principles to advance the survival and enhancement of the people will surely climb higher on the ladder of evolution. A race and folk based nationalism, a nationalism based on the solid principle of blood, will not make the mistake of blinding its eyes to the most important fact of life itself: blood determines the course of civilization. And only pure blood can guarantee an upwardly mobile civilization. Homogeneous civilizations inspire all members of a nation, thus ensuring that the nation’s cultural riches inspire and build upon each other. On the other hand, heterogeneous civilizations often sow confusion since not all members of the nation can see themselves in the works produced. Cultural artefacts thus become obsolete since they are neither admired nor exalted. Human beings are territorial animals. Nationalism is the defense of a people’s territory. It is thus the political form of eat and be eaten animalistic brute behavior. We are beasts and we must defend our lair from outsider beasts! We are not proletarians and soccer moms but meat eaters and machete wielders, claws dug deep into the flesh of our defeated foes. A nation’s glory is built on the bones of those willing to defend it with their life and limbs. Evolution is dialectic. What we write today will be negated tomorrow. And the negation will be negated and thus incorporated post-past into the canon of the nation’s will and testament. We will write nationalism in the 21st century and celebrate the triumph of the nation as a people as a race in the countless generations that came and triumphed before us! The Bible of the nation is written with the blood of its martyrs and saints. A monument to the glory of the nation’s unknown soldier is worth more than feeding 10,000 hungry babushkas! The flame in the tomb of the unknown soldier licks the ceiling filled with images of stars and rifles. The flame in the heart of the nation burns as strong as the flame that warms the hearth of the family that huddles around a fire in the quiet silence of a winter evening. The snow is falling and the father is smoking a pipe while the mother is cooking and the children are sleeping. All is well, but the wolves outside are walking around the house, on all fours knowing full well that their meal spells the demise of a clan. Nationalism is realpolitik. A people is more interested in the survival of its own upper classes than in the survival of far away proletarians. Hence, nationalism could be called socialism for the folk. It is precisely this kind of folk socialism which will in the end appeal to the largest common denominator and thus ensure that the nation will survive in its entirety. The hydra is the head, but the head does not need to be cut off. It merely needs to be sent into Dr. Frankenstein’s lab to be transformed into the head of a benevolent creature. Then we can stare at the basilisk and the basilisk can stare back at us, smiling. Nationalism does not require constant self-sacrifice. It merely requires the individual to identify with the nation. This identification actually strengthens one’s individuality as one is able to distinguish more readily between friend and foe and thus validate one’s own position in this world, namely in the bosom of one’s nation, whether one is living far away from or in the middle of it. One’s nation shapes one’s identity, whether one likes this fact or not! Thus a man born in Berlin will always shudder in awe at the sight of the Arminius Monument in the Teutoburg Forest. At the same time, the same man will feel rather indifferent when standing in front of the Gandhi Monument in Bombay. A nation shapes one’s thoughts and desires. Deep down, a man born in Lyons will always feel drawn to his French compatriots in countries across the Seven Seas. In a shady bar in Pohang, a Frenchman will ignore all the Korean patrons and instead strike up a conversation with the only other Frenchman at the place. A man will always feel closer to men of his own nation and race than to men of an alien nation and race. A nation usually is a state-controlled territory that protects the interests of its citizens. These citizens usually belong to the same race. While religious tolerance should always be the norm in a strong nation, the assurance of ethnic homogeneity should supercede all other concerns, especially trivial ones like the guarantee that all citizens should have the right to watch private TV channels. Ethnic homogeneity guarantees the free expression of religious and artistic beliefs within the body politic under strict but indirect supervision of the benevolent state. A person might therefore be allowed to practice his or her obscure faith as long as this practice does not interfere with the will of the people to survive and prosper as a people. Chaos will reign in the big house if the small house is not kept in order in accordance with the divine right of kings and gods. The masked men need not protect when the folk can protect itself. A road will be paved with gold and this road will lead to the often maligned but now rightly exalted palace of wisdom. The nation must always punish the invader for invading its soil, but it must also punish the ones that hurt its nationals on foreign soil. Foreign soil becomes national soil when the nation has rightfully conquered it or enough of its nationals inhabit it and thus claim it for the nation. A nation is not a static organism. Like any organism, it has a need to grow and expand. Living space is the imperative that guides all nations. Space must grow when populations grow. This process is as natural as the need of the population to reproduce and evolve. Posted by Constantin von Hoffmeister on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 at 04:03 PM in Comments:2
Posted by Søren Renner on April 14, 2009, 09:14 PM | # The world trembles like a droplet at the edge of a goblet. This is econational futurism. Pour of tor and distances. 3
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 14, 2009, 09:20 PM | # Good essay. It’s for writing essays like this that CvH is forgiven his various trespasses against reason and taste. Incidentally, the essay mentions Romania. Romania is Walachia and Moldavia, not Transylvania or the Banat: they aren’t properly part of it. Their true identities need to be restored and the Treaty of Trianon consigned to its rightful place on the rubbish heap of history’s defunct criminal insanity. 4
Posted by Any hope for these ethnonationalist groups? on April 15, 2009, 05:09 AM | # What do you all think about the following groups? Any hope for them to actually get off the ground? 5
Posted by Guessedworker on April 15, 2009, 06:20 AM | # They are the same group, aren’t they? Any hope for them to actually get off the ground? Hope so. But there is a difference between getting populist movements off the ground and changing the possibilities granted in the collective life we have. The GOP and Dems are both populist movements predicated on striving against certain “bad outcomes”, “mistakes” and “injustices”. Sometimes they have a momentary success. Reaganite conservatism had some pretty big ones. But they were still surface changes because beneath the surface the tennets of liberty, equality, progress and universal brotherhood, on which America is predicated, never change. So these guys are, like all those before them, testing the notion that history and the American Model are somehow disconnected from the postmodern American MultiCult. They are redefining and racialising the basis of freedom in the belief that this is the answer. After all, if Mexicans swamp the southwest, isn’t the answer to oppose immigration? If Jews control the media, isn’t the answer to oppose the media Jews? Well, it seems obvious enough. But no, it isn’t enough of an answer. In a response to the late John Bryant’s challenging solution to the problem of Washington I wrote:-
That’s my feeling about all populist movements at this point in time. I think they are good in themselves, even important - they demonstrate energy and awareness, without which nothing is possible. But there is something absolutely fundamental that is missing. It was missing from 20th century fascism, notwithstanding its gesture in the direction of Volkishness. It is missing from the European New Right, with its de-emphasis on materialist science. It will be necessary if Europeans in North America and Europe are ever to build a new, secure and sustainable life. 6
Posted by Marwinsing on April 15, 2009, 06:28 AM | # Speaking of our Romanian brothers and sisters, they’re the warmest, kindliest, friendliest, most pro-white folks to wash up on Britain’s shores in recent times IMHO - apart from the true rural Brit that is, of course. But Britain hates White Nationalists. We (especially WN South Africans) oftentimes find that out the hard way as in “Vamoose apartheid racist git outta here! - get !! - voetsek!!!” (so I did) The deeper one goes into those major British cities, only casualties man only casualties… “God save Britain!” (God’s deaf) But Allah has ears dont he? No hope for Joy. Heil Romania!!! (old Jamaican proverb: whenever you walk into a donkey’s house NEVER discuss ears) 7
Posted by John on April 15, 2009, 06:42 AM | #
Success for whom (amnesty for illegal aliens and taxing waiters’ tips come to mind)? Gotta admit, though, he sure had the talk down. His biggest “success” was in paving the way for the Neocons (of whom he had not a few nascent ones in his administration). 8
Posted by Any hope for this ethnonationalist group? on April 15, 2009, 07:22 AM | #
After doing some research I found out that this group doesn’t have much hope for getting off the ground because the current National Vice President (and co-founder?) of this group is Marcus Epstein, a half-Jewish-half-Korean supposed ‘paleoconservative.’ Though Epstein is obviously very bright (just look at his rather extenisve publishing history at such a young age), and he strongly opposes mass immigration and multiculturalism among other things, I’m wary of him because of his background. What kind of true “pro-Western civilization right-wing youth group” would depend on a hyperintellectual half Jew/half Asian mutt (no WHITE or WESTERN to be found there) to hold such a high position in their group? Epstein also sounds like a disgusting queer (or he could just be very effeminate), which doesn’t help him in the eyes of many conservatives. What the hell has happened to American conservatism when a half-Jewish/half-Asian effeminate and/or gay paleoconservative is dominating the current conservative scene so much? Did I also mention that Epstein is the executive director of Team America PAC, a political action committee founded by Tom Tancredo, and also the exec. dir. of The American Cause, a paleoconservative foundation created by Pat Buchanan! This guy graduated college less than 3 years ago and he’s already directing the foundations of two major conservative American figures, Tancredo AND Buchanan? Something seems fishy here…or maybe just Jewey…. 9
Posted by Guessedworker on April 15, 2009, 07:39 AM | # Interesting. Looks like the Hart-Auster horse has a stablemate. 10
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 15, 2009, 08:14 AM | # Regarding the comment of 11:22 AM, I see absolutely nothing to attack in Marcus Epstein, who is doing a magnificent job. I can see no justification for that comment. I also see nothing to attack of any significance in Lawrence Auster, Prof. Hart, or Prof. Paul Gottfried by the way. There are things I disagree with in all their positions but fundamentally if someone opposes race-replacement he’s on my side. That doesn’t change if he considers me “an anti-Semite” (whatever that’s supposed to be). 11
Posted by Guessedworker on April 15, 2009, 08:34 AM | # Fred, Suppose these people succeed in crowding out European-American racialists in the leadership of the white consciousness movement, and steer it thereafter into a defence of Western civilisation, ie, decidely not a defence of European Man? Would you still see nothing to concern yourself about there? 12
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 15, 2009, 08:55 AM | #
GW, the comment I questioned went WAY beyond expressing reasonable concerns along the lines you very rightly bring up. Reading it, I mentally recoiled and I actually wondered if it was posted by someone from the other side commenting here as an agent provocateur. I reject that person’s comment more or less entirely. 13
Posted by JEWS = RUINERS on April 15, 2009, 08:59 AM | # To coin a possibly needed term for these so called ‘race realist’ Jewish infiltrators Hart/Auster/Epstein/etc - Neopaleoconservatism. But wait…wasn’t the whole point of the American ‘paleoconservative movement’ to break off from an American conservatism that had come to be too dominated by American Jewish intellectuals, in particular the neoconservatives? However, now the damned Jews have managed to latch on to even paleoconservatism and have begun their ‘tinkering’ shall we say with it! But then again, leave it to Jews to latch on and imitate the goyim wherever they go or in whatever they may create, eventually subverting and ruining what was once a perfectly good and sensible White (i.e., NON-JEWISH) movement or cause. An important thing to realize when dealing with Jews is the following: eventually Jews ruin and corrupt EVERYTHING they get involved with because they are themselves innately corrupt…everything they touch sooner or later turns to shit (especially in terms of economics and politics*), and very quickly too if they manage to occupy or worm their way in to various leadership positions. * - It is clear that Jews do the most damage BY FAR in the economic and political arenas in host countries - might also add the general socio-cultural and media related dimensions as well, though those areas of course closely tie in with the political and economic dimensions. However, many Jews have of course made more than a few good contributions to medicine, the arts (especially literature, film, theatre, etc; excepting visual arts like painting and sculpture), and obviously mathematics/science…except for atomic weaponry and the other advanced and potentially world-destroying weaponry they mostly invented...but then again they are only playing out their natural role of RUINERS and DESTROYERS with their invention of atomic weaponry which could obliterate the world: can we personally blame them?). For their contributions to medicine, the arts, and math/science they are to be partly commended. Only partly because they achieved all of this on the backs of Whites…they achieved this in our White countries and using our White languages, and also (MOST IMPORTANTLY) using the base-knowledge of White societies and previous (brilliant and profound) White inventors who came up with the bedrock knowledge or technology which the merely clever (but never brilliant or profound) Jews merely built upon. For the past 200 or so years we Whites have provided them with relatively stable and prosperous countries and economies under which they had ample time, resources, and freedom to tinker and invent and build upon what we Whites originally created…and now Jews are repaying us by seeking to ultimately subvert and dominate our societies and eventually wipe us out by agitating and encouraging mass non-White immigration in to our lands. FOR GOD’S SAKES JEWS, IF ANY OF YOU ARE READING THIS…STAY THE HELL OUT OF OUR WHITE ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL SYSTEMS AND STICK WITH YOUR TINKERING IN SCIENCE, MEDICINE, AND ART…THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL YOU EVER BE REMOTELY TOLERABLE IN ANY PARTICULAR WHITE COUNTRY FOR AN EXTENDED LENGTH OF TIME. 14
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 15, 2009, 09:49 AM | # I was in the middle of typing something for, I think, this thread when I got interrupted, and returning to my typing I wasn’t able to reconstruct my train of thought. Nevertheless I’ll throw in the fragment I had typed out, rather than erase it: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Connelly-Brimelow.html
Notice he doesn’t consider the organized Jewish Community the sole force behind it but the main force behind it. That’s exactly right and it’s good to be explicit about that because a commonly-trotted-out strawman “exculpates” the Jews on grounds they’re obviously not acting alone. No, obviously they aren’t but that’s trivial, as there are always alliances. The main point is: Who’s the ring-leader? The Jews. Would this have been possible without the Jews? In my view, flatly no: without them it certainly would have sprung up here and there on its own like weeds in a garden only to be eliminated each time by the preponderance of normalness among the people the way the gardener with weed-killer-spray eliminates weeds. The Jews are weed-fertilizer: they make the weeds take over the whole garden. 15
Posted by the Narrator... on April 15, 2009, 10:09 AM | #
That might not be such a wise course of action. The majority of the other races have a base sense of nationalism in the form of tribal solidarity that will always manifest in rather crude forms of “protest” which usually involve setting various things on fire and looting homes and businesses over the course of a few days. The rest of the year they demonstrate their lack of concern with the multicult welfare state by simply herding themselves into ethnic enclaves and tattooing flags onto various parts of their body. The West has nations, but the rest of the world has tribes. We have to check this lingering inclination towards finding “friends” or “allies” amongst the non-Whites. Our way of civilization is unique. And none of the other races share our desire for it. ... 16
Posted by Desmond Jones on April 15, 2009, 04:55 PM | #
Why does does Brimelow assume that this is the standard, when the historical record show it fundamentally untrue? It is seldom that the ruling elite of these countries worked for the benefit of their own people.
The mass migration of cheap labour has nothing to do with economics? There is no benefit to Walmart, Home Depot, Tyson’s, Western Union or Ameriquest Mortgage Co. ... This is nothing new. History is replete with examples. 17
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 15, 2009, 06:20 PM | # What role do Jewish ethnic activism and Jewish identity politics play, Desmond? What is THE biggest obstacle right now, not in 1965 but right now, today, this minute, to getting race-replacement sorted out? Walmart plays a role, Tyson’s Chicken plays a role, the home construction industry plays a role, but I didn’t ask who plays a role, I asked who, what identifiable group, plays THE biggest role and what identifiable group is THE biggest obstacle? The answer was the same in 1965 but let’s forget 1965, let’s pretend 1965 never happened: 1965 doesn’t exist OK? No one never heard of it. No one ever heard of Kevin MacDonald. Who’s he??? Never heard of him. All right: Who or what is THE biggest obstacle TODAY, RIGHT NOW, to getting race-replacement undone? Not “who’s a factor?” Who’s THE BIGGEST factor? 18
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 15, 2009, 06:27 PM | # I mean good lord, Desmond, most days with you it’s the Ukes and Italians who are to blame for everything from sun spots to the crash of the space shuttle to global warming to and Jacko’s botched face-lifts and suddenly you’re going to dispute the role of the Hebrews in forced integration, forced open borders, and forced race-mixing??????? 19
Posted by Desmond Jones on April 15, 2009, 07:59 PM | # It’s understandable that you feel the need to compensate for the fact you’re Jewish, Fred, but try and stay on topic. Brimelow’s question was: ‘Why are these countries doing this to themselves if they are not benefiting their native-born — their own people?’ Answer: THEY DON"T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THEIR OWN PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THEM!!! Considering that ruling elite imported cheap labour to line their pockets for years, the Irish Catholic migration for one (no doubt the Jews were THE BIGGEST factor in that one, right Freddy!) then anyone with a double-digit IQ can reason that there’s a benefit. What role do Jewish ethnic activism and Jewish identity politics play? They line the pockets of the corporate and political elite. How did Bush/Cheney et al benefit from Arnell’s (Ameriquest)? He gave them reams and reams of money. Take your head out of your ass Freddy, ‘cause up there all you can see is Jew. Connelly is no different. The same trite shit about the “Judaic” character of the Puritans.
The founding Americans were not displaced by the mass migration of Catholics. Nothing to do with it. Bupkis. Too busy plotting the crash of the space shuttle over a century ago. You should call George Noory Freddy, you’d be perfect for Coast-to-Coast. 20
Posted by guessedrefuter on April 15, 2009, 08:27 PM | # We have to check this lingering inclination towards finding “friends” or “allies” amongst the non-Whites. What demonstrable need to even speak of “allies” is there? is anyone involved in the sort of action in which allies are possible? and wouldn’t we have to consolidate our own allegiance and have a legitimate field of action, besides a realistic base of support among the (which?) populace, before having the right to warlike rhetoric? GW, is your vision for the success of white nationalism, or even just English nationalism — which I don’t share and don’t believe is feasible — consonant with this rhetoric of victory, defeat, allies and the like? or do you have any thoughts about it independent of whatever you believe is possible for the salvation of West? 21
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 15, 2009, 09:56 PM | # I see. We had Nux “Hands Off Hattersley!” Gnomica, now we have Desmond “Hands Off the Jews!” Jones. Excuse me, make that Sir Desmond. I guess it’s back to the drawing board for Prof. MacDonald but hey, you win some, you lose some, but it all evens out in the end .... Wait ... These ruling élites importing cheap labor — what happened to them in 1924, Des Sir Desmond? What, they mysteriously lost their power to bribe Congressmen and Senators, then mysteriously regained it in 1965? I suppose all Earl Raab was about was giving good cover to the WASP businessmen. Yeah, that’s it. 22
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 15, 2009, 10:08 PM | # (Note to any readers new to the site: I’m no more Jewish than Desm Sir Desmond, David Duke, or Joerg Haider. End of story.) 23
Posted by EA (European American) Steve on April 16, 2009, 03:16 AM | # “Wait ... These ruling élites importing cheap labor — what happened to them in 1924, Des Sir Desmond? What, they mysteriously lost their power to bribe Congressmen and Senators, then mysteriously regained it in 1965? I suppose all Earl Raab was about was giving good cover to the WASP businessmen. Yeah, that’s it. “—Fred Scrooby
I agree there is a very evil faction among Jews. However, there is also political opportunism and race-neutral interests at stake. 24
Posted by Desmond Jones on April 16, 2009, 12:55 PM | #
It’s called the KKK, Freddy. Everyday folk in the street duking it out with the invaders. Americans fighting to ensure traitorous bastards like Al Smith didn’t get elected. What happened in 1939 Freddy, when the “omniscient lobby” could not get a get a god damn boat load of yiddles into the whole of North America. This is the same group that financed Bronstein and his “Russian” revolution. The same group that underwrote the Jap navy’s defeat of Russia. The group that saved the NAACP from bankruptcy. The group that organised the German boycott. Yet, they could not crack open the door for 900 f**king yids. The same all powerful group that could not convince Bomber Command, no how much they pleaded, to hit Auschwitz. The USAF did aerial recon of the place. The RAF and USAF bombed the Germans back to the dark ages, but they would not hit Auschwitz. What happened Freddy? The Supermensch got a dose of kryptonite? 25
Posted by anti-white troll on April 16, 2009, 02:05 PM | # Incidentally, the essay mentions Romania. Romania is Walachia and Moldavia, not Transylvania or the Banat: they aren’t properly part of it. I see, you’re going to set right Romania right, too. Good luck with that. But I must ask, what business have you “dividing the ‘White Race’” like that, Scrubby? Big no no, that is. Note to any readers new to the site: I’m no more Jewish than Desm Sir Desmond, David Duke, or Joerg Haider. Not except by matrilineal descent, anyway. European nationalists must resist the siren call of pan-anything nationalism which is nothing but another form of cement block equalization. Ethnic particularisms must be cherished and upheld as a virtue in itself. Two days ago it was Swedes must breed with Spaniards. Be sure to let everyone know when you’ve made your mind up—or even just grown up. 26
Posted by another useless cul-de-sac on April 16, 2009, 03:16 PM | # The erotic poetry was better. Pounding pulsing pussys Yea! Get down. 27
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 16, 2009, 03:44 PM | #
They were busy using up all their political capital getting us into the god damned war. Back then they still had to worry about overplaying their hand, unlike the post-‘sixties dispensation where they’re in the uncontested driver’s seat for 75% of politics and policymaking. 28
Posted by John on April 16, 2009, 06:12 PM | # “Cheap labor”, imo, is inadequate to explain the elites’ motivations for mass immigration of largely unskilled, low social capital third world welfare cases to the West. It costs them too much in other ways. If they’re only after cheap labor, moving the mountain manufacturing plant to Mohammed (or Jésus, etc.), is a better option. They had panmixia on the board at least 150 years ago Crimes that our grandchildren will see “Cheap labor” is ancillary to the major strategic objectives of the multiculturalism project. From reading the elites own writings, one can glean that turning Europe in Eurabafrica helps the elite with the following objectives (quoted from my previous post here):
Distinct cultures, ethnicities, races, nations and ultimately even sexes and families are anathema to such objectives. 29
Posted by Guessedworker on April 16, 2009, 07:55 PM | # guessedrefuter (?): ... is your vision for the success of white nationalism, or even just English nationalism — which I don’t share and don’t believe is feasible — consonant with this rhetoric of victory, defeat, allies and the like? or do you have any thoughts about it independent of whatever you believe is possible for the salvation of West? GR (which I think I prefer), my vision is only that - a vision. It isn’t anything finished or concrete in anyway at this point, and so one must treat it with due circumspection, which you do. I am acutely aware that pursuing a national panacea is always more likely to lead one only to fool’s gold that the real thing. And you can take that as the answer to your first question. As to your second question, nothing that is proposed at a secondary political level ... no strategy dependent on electioneering, naming the Jew, Islamophobia, pleading for the upkeep of Western civ, committing to Christ, turning back to Munich in 1923 ... none of that will do the job. Something much more muscular, something that contains only the outcome of our survival, is required. I’ve looked at the problem of how we got here and what we can do about that from the systemic point of view for a long time, having begun formulating some sort of question about it from 1981 when it became apparent to me that Thatcherism, although it drew in part upon Powellism, had nothing to say about race (I don’t think I was ever not a racialist). It took me the rest of the decade to really reject party politics, and that was the point at which I began to think along systemic lines. For the next decade and a half I focussed on the nature of a healthy system, privileging it with conservative characteristics. It was only a year ago in February that I renounced that idea here at MR, and started to search again. The idea itself is very simple, and rests on the realisation that the fundamental life-interest revealed by Salter and advocated here with such vigour by JW Holliday is not, in fact, the philosophical Absolute. There is one layer preceding it - that of being itself. The life-interest in passing on information is incomprehensible unless it is information on being. “I am” is experience of the eternal ... is the eternal. “I pass on my genes” is the will of the eternal. But Salter’s visionary linkage of the personal > the familial > the ethnic > the racial > the human is also applicable to the existential field. Everything is material. Life is genetic. Distinctive genes isolate and distinguish. Self-evidently, the being of a monkey differs from the being of a Man. The being of a Khoisan differs from the being of a Han. There is one-ness but there is also separateness. The idea, then, is to erect a “nationalism of the European being” which distinguishes us in all our uniqueness, in our capacities, in our potentials, fidelity to which will prove redemptive in respect to all the debilities with which we are burdened, and proof us against the authors of those debilities. And then, we take advantage of all the positives we have (broadly, Inevitiblism, nativism and the internet) and set about overturning the liberal system throughout the European racial sphere. It’s a mite ambitious, I admit. But it’s also realistic, in a sense, since the scale of the problem IS the problem. 30
Posted by luli on April 17, 2009, 07:12 AM | # A nationalist internationale is an anachronism and oxymoronic. Nationalism is anathema to internationalism. When a national movement transgresse its borders it ceases to be national in order become an international movement. We know too well who are the curators of internationalism. Salvation lies in national movements of each country taking control of their nations and national destiny, thereafter one can think in terma of solidarity with “other national groups or national nations”. Any international aroma national movements might acquire means subjugation to the existing global zionist jew frankestein monster. In any case it is very nice to write poetic epigrams and florid essays on utopia dreams of a distant tomorrow which is as far away as earth is from Mars. The racial corruption in the blood of nations is too far advanced for any hope of a rescue operation. This is not the 30’s, where Europe was the central global pivot, and it was populated mainly by europeans, albeit challenged and encroached by powerful alien minorities with the aim of wresting absolute control away from europeans. Look at the map of Europe today, and what do we see ?. Legions and legions, millions and millions of colored aliens battening and feeding from its soil. Established colonies of africans in France, make France the first african nation on the continent of europe. Germany is littered with turks and turkmen, marrying german maidens and stealing the flower of that nations youth. Italy is being submerged by 4 millions afro-asiatics, Spain is running the same fate. A small homogeneous white compact nation like Greece with thousand years of history is inside a blending machine , its soil trampled and defaced by millions asiatic, muslims, arabs and the like. We do not want to mention the other nations, Denmark, Sweden, Holland, Belgium, cesspools of misgeneation and racial bastardization. 31
Posted by Guessedworker on April 17, 2009, 07:18 AM | # luli, In the short term, we must argue our case with whomsoever we can. We must support our nationalist political parties. But we must be clear in our thinking, and consistent in the moral lessons we apply:- http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/to_do_what_we_must_to_remain_who_we_are/ 32
Posted by majorityrights on April 17, 2009, 07:55 AM | # Posted by Guessedworker on April 17, 2009, 11:18 AM | # luli, In the short term, we must argue our case with whomsoever we can. We must support our nationalist political parties. But we must be clear in our thinking, and consistent in the moral lessons we apply:-
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 17, 2009, 08:49 AM | # Good description by Luli of what the Jews, communists, crony capitalists, and clueless women voters are doing to Europe:
______ * Unsure what “battening” meant in the above context, I looked it up:
** That is indeed what is happening to Greece and does anyone find it odd that Greek “patriot” Dienekes Pontikos has never breathed a word about that epochal outrage and civilizational crime of an immensity beyond words to describe? Every Greek man, woman, and child inhabiting the ancient nation of Greece is being forcibly turned into a Negro as we speak by this Jewish-ring-led alliance of Jews, communists, crony capitalists, and clueless women voters and all Dienekes can muster the enthusiasm for is rejoicing over fact that the same thing is happening to all nations lying to Greece’s north. What an insecure dagoe low-life! I never read his site any more, ever since he denied the existence of an entity called Europe or a race called Europeans. I don’t soil myself by setting foot there. It’s OK, I’ll subscribe to Nature and Science myself. 34
Posted by White Western Man on April 17, 2009, 02:28 PM | # luli - your comment is a great call-to-action for Whites worldwide. Thank you for it. However, you are too pessimistic - NEVER LOSE ALL HOPE...otherwise you just might decide to give up completely and become a weak, meek, and fatalistic follower of Judaeo-Christianity (Judaeo-Christians = the walking dead). You’ve got to be ever vigilant and work hard to fight off and stave off the pessimistic and fatalistic impulses which have poisoned White peoples and White cultures ever since Judaeo-Christianity managed to sink its poison Jew-fangs in to our culture…and White ethnonationalism/pro-White activism is the antidote to that poison, the only known and proven antidote so far. You should not lose hope because we are in the beginning stages of a resurgence of White ethnonationalism, and we here at MR and other similar websites are in the vanguard of this resurgence. Whites worldwide are waking up in droves to the racial realities which threaten to engulf us, for instance: the fact that there are over 6 non-Whites for every 1 White on the planet, and the non-Whites are still growing while Whites are shrinking on the whole. The current resurgence of White ethnonationalism will only accelerate with the amazing mass-communicatory power of the internet, the most amazing communication medium in the history of the world that we Whites invented; thus it’s only a matter of time before Whites reassert themselves again…and once the dominoes start to fall, there will be no stopping the cascading momentum unless international Jewry attempts to start another world war over the issue of White freedom and independence as they did during the 1930s-40s. I wouldn’t be surprised if this happened, and remember that international Jewry has beaucoup nukes now; not to mention they are extremely unhinged, insidious, and dangerous (they are Jews, after all) and as such entirely prone to taking out billions of people if they feel the need with their world-destroying weapons rather than see Whites succeed. Ever since the events of WWII Jews have felt even more ‘cornered,’ exposed, paranoid, and hypervigilant than they usually are, making them even more dangerous than they historically have been (they are very heavily armed compared to the 1930s-40s) and more prone to pre-emptively lashing out and bringing the world down with them if they need to, taking as many Whites down with them as they can. Merely attempting to work or find ways around the international plutocratic Jewish control-freak system of monetary control and money ebb-and-flow might even be enough to provoke them to incite, boycott, or even attack as they did with Germany during the 1930s and currently threaten to do with Iran. There is only so much beating and punishment a people can endure before it starts to fight back, and the fighting back is coming soon to a White country near you. We are living in a time period of great world-historical racial trouble and strife, but the last 100 years or so have also been a time of needed distillation in the White world - consequently, we will be reaching THE boiling point soon, at which point the true distillation will begin. As of now though, our losses are manageable: the weak-willed Whites are either race mixing or otherwise colluding/fraternizing politically with our enemies, but this is only separating the chaff (White traitors) from the wheat (strong Whites) and further reinforcing the solidarity and racial core of the strong Whites worldwide. Let the weak ones fall away from us - our gene pool and White racial core will be better because of this in the long run. Regarding France: it has long been a bastion of race mixing, racial decadence, and racial degeneration, and in more recent times this has accelerated alarmingly - however, once you realize that France has the largest population of Jews in Europe then it all makes sense as to who is pushing and encouraging this radical multiculturalism/mass-immigration invasion in France. However, heartily opposed to racially-mixed urban France is the still rather large rural or semi-rural White population of France which remains racially intact, and birth rates there are good (above replacement). So there is much hope even in France. No need to worry about Germany except their aging population. They keep immigration absolutely locked down there, and very few Germans statistically mix with other races. There are tens of millions of Germans in Europe, and they aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. Italy, Spain, and Greece do indeed harbor some very deep racial problems, but then again those have always been bastions of rather large-scale race mixing. Historically, because of their location those nations have been major racial/ethnic crossroads, and they continue to be. But as in France, the White ethnic core of those nations are and have been distilling and refining themselves through the 20th-21st century racial troubles, and once White ethnonationalism gains ascendancy I’m confident the racial problems there will be solved…nothing deportations and/or revocation of ill-gained citizenships cannot solve - we can even follow Israel’s example in this regard. You are wrong about nations like Denmark, Sweden, Holland, Belgium, etc being “cesspools of miscegenation and racial bastardization” - that is entirely incorrect. Eastern Europe may present a racial problem in the near future, especially now that international Jewry is slowly but surely re-establishing a large base there in order to try to re-kindle their historic role as parasitic middleman merchants and fomenters of mistrust between White/Western Europe and White Slavic/Semi-Asiatic Russia. The White Slavs in EE have been decimated by decades of Judaeocommunism and the attendant ills, but they have proven amazingly resilient in most cases. In the coming rise of White ethnonationalism a White Slavic-specific ethnonationalistic movement will clearly have to be set-up in order to help White Slavs help themselves get their countries back on track - unfortunately this will quite possibly involve another large-scale confrontation with Jewry which is as I said re-establishing a base in EE and was, in fact, never completely dislodged from there even with the massive persecutions unleashed against them during the 1930s-40s. Russian and EE also continues to face more and more immigration from Central Asia coupled with declining birthrates, though at this point it is still manageable…but action does definitely need to be taken there within the next 50 years or else it may then become quite impossible to manage there. I hope this has been a decent summation of some pressing and vital issues and I welcome your responses. 35
Posted by An Age-Old Cycle on April 17, 2009, 04:48 PM | # We frequently examine these questions from the wrong end. Instead of looking at today’s happening as brand new, let us consider how these things unfold so often. Generally, a single (or almost single) ethnic state is infiltrated with the meme called pluralism. That can be inspired by Judaism, Christianity, or Islam—they all do it. When that happens a chain of events follows. When the pluralism meme is in full swing, multiculturalism is not far behind embracing the second level meme called universalism. Following multiculturalism will be multinationalism (an aspect of empire), a multi-state empire, and following that will be a return to single ethnic states. [See Yugoslavia….] One reason we have a hard time seeing it in our own lives is that it is usually an historical phenomenon that takes centuries. It happened in Turkey quite explicitly with the Ottoman Empire which peaked at 150 years of age as a collection of European & Asian states, and thereafter 300 years to end in a collection of single ethnic states. [Oddly enough, a close study of Turkish imperial history might provide readers with insight into the Semitic cousins’ nature. The collapse of the Ottoman Empire was undoubtedly partly triggered by our friends to put Palestine in play during the same generation’s seizure of the Russian Empire and conversion thereof to the USSR Empire. In case you don’t get that, it opened the way for Israel. Napoleon tried to do it by invading Syria as have other world-historical figures.] But this pattern has been true to varying degrees and in diverse ways with the British Empire, the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, the short-lived German Second Reich Empire, the short-lived Napoleonic Empire, the short-lived Japanese Empire, and others. The Chinese Empire & Republic does not seem afflicted with this phenomenon, but the Indian/Pakistan/Bangladesh Imperial Entity was brought together and then shattered itself after Independence. Americans are in the multiculturalism-leading-to-multinationalism stage, but each separate white demographic will have to decide for itself where their particular state is heading. Arab Semites and Jewish Semites have played out several roles in several of these imperial adventures, and things will continue to change. Notice: Morality, fairness, democracy, capitalism, and all that jazz have nothing to do with the rising of pluralism, universalism, multiculturalism, and multinationalism, nor with the collapsing of the large imperial entities into single ethnicity states. The engine operating these phenomena is the single meme of pluralism to which the meme of universalism is often added at the multiculturalism stage. But once multiculturalism rears its ugly head, there is no stopping the process. 36
Posted by exPF on April 17, 2009, 05:17 PM | # Wow, Age-Old Cycle, that was a pithy and fascinating post.
Its probably going a step too far to say that these things (morality, democracy, capitalism) have nothing to do with the rise of those memes and structures. They do play a role for example in the establishment and realization of the actual pluralist project, therefore they do have to do with the rising of pluralism. As an example, it was moral strictures which compelled American whites to accept pluralist measures throughout the 20th century. So morality played a role, in that example. However, your point or main thrust seems to be that it is this pluralism meme which drives everything before it, and that the advent of pluralism initiates a historical cycle to which “all that jazz” (morality, democracy, fairness, capitalism) is subservient. That’s an interesting idea. 37
Posted by You Know I'm Right on April 17, 2009, 06:40 PM | # There is simply no such thing as ethnonationalism says Jewish journalist Benjamin Schwartz of The Atlantic in a recent article. Why? Because WE ARE ALL DEDICATED TO LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC VALUES NOW, claims he: “For those dedicated to liberal democratic values—and aren’t we all?—history provides few better lessons of the fact that we must take, and embrace, our heroes where we can find them.” No mention in his article though of the very strong “liberal democratic values” which were so deeply held and lovingly cherished by the vast majority of Schwartz’s own relatives and Ashkenazi co-ethnics in general in Russia, Eastern Europe, and the USSR between the approximate time-span of 1870-1990. I mean, all of those Ashkenazi Jews were just so incredibly patriotic and dedicated to those “liberal democratic [American] values” over there at that time, everyone knows how valiantly and thoroughly they managed to resist the temptations of the thoroughly evil and anti-democratic Communist/Soviet scourge. They are true liberal democratic American heroes, that’s for sure! 38
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 17, 2009, 06:55 PM | # The problem with Age Old Cycle’s comment is it leaves out race. Something new is going on in the current crisis: the Jews have latched onto the goal of turning all white people into Negroes and they’ve got their crony capitalist, comprador, clueless women voter, and Christian allies (in Europe, those same allies plus tons and tons and tons of communists, quantities of communists such as don’t exist in the U.S. and never did, it’s amazing the amount of commies they have over there). Let’s call all of the above “the Jews” for short. That sort of thermonuclear genocidal assault on the Euro races in their own homelands has never happened before. Europeans never got turned en masse into Negroes before, right in their own countries. That’s a transformation, clearly, which a people does not survive intact, by definition. When the thing ultimately collapses, as Age Old Cycle describes (whether describes rightly or wrongly, I do not know), what emerge are no longer the Euro peoples who originally entered but more like something out of Jules Verne’s novel The Island of Dr. Moreau. Take Yugoslavia, cited by Age Old Cycle as an example: If the Jews who are running things today in the States had been running Yugo during its communist decades they’d have changed as many of its inhabitants as possible from Euro to Negro so that, let’s say, Croatia today, or Serbia, or Bosnia, would stand a good chance of being a one-hundred percent Negro-populated country, just like Haiti and on the same sub-humanoid level. When, according to Old Cycle’s scenario, Yugo inevitably ended by breaking up, in other words, out would come not the Serbs, the Croats, or the Bosnians who’d entered at the start of the cycle, and not even anything close. What would emerge would be ... well, do I have to spell it out? You can’t leave out race in what’s going on. They try to do that at BrusselsJournal.com and they’re rapidly making themselves irrelevant. (You can’t leave out Jews either. Jobling tries that, and if he’s not careful he’ll wind up irrelevant as well.) 39
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 17, 2009, 07:05 PM | #
So this Jew Benjamin Schwartz is ready to welcome Israel’s collapse as an ethnostate? These Jews think no one’s watching them. They’re like a burgler robbing a store unaware he’s being watched on the security camera. The Jews think we’re not seeing their hypocrisy. They think their breathtakingly filthy hypocrisy is hidden from view. Earth to Jews: it’s not hidden from view. It’s glaringly on display before the whole world. The world is watching, seeing every bit of it, and is alternately laughing at you and thoroughly repulsed by you. You are making of yourselves objects of derision and objects of loathing. 41
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 17, 2009, 07:17 PM | # What’s happening now is tribal warfare using demography in place of nuclear weapons. Non-Euros are, with the help of Euro fifth columnists like the Pope and the Arse Bishop of Canterbury, attacking Euros with the demography weapon. The old saying admonishes us “not to fight the last war.” Well, the last war was fought with bullets, artillery, bombs, and in Japan’s case, atomic bombs. There’s a war on right now which is just as devastating as the last one, nay more devastating, but it’s not being fought with bullets, artillery, bombs, or A-bombs. It’s being fought with a new weapon, demographic attack. Learn to wield and defend against the new weapon. Don’t “fight the last war.” This isn’t the last war and it’s not being fought with that war’s weaponry. 42
Posted by Age Old Cycle on April 17, 2009, 10:16 PM | # Fred says, “The problem with Age Old Cycle’s comment is it leaves out race.” Not at all. All manner of demographic phenomenon are at work, and the principal races are definitely major fault lines when the single ethic states settle out. Sometimes it takes a lot of work, but you could see the divisive split in the Czech Republic and Slovakia in just the last decade. So it’s race, religion, ethnicities, former national origins, languages, etc., that are reflected in the collapse of the empire into independent states. Fred says, “Something new is going on in the current crisis: the Jews have latched onto the goal of turning all white people into Negroes…” That’s always possible and the best example of this phenomenon was the Ottoman Empire working its multicultural ways in Europe where the Sultan openly by law and by example encouraged a wide variety of cultures, religions, and languages to merge into new family units. When it all came crashing down, of course, we had the Armenian genocide to clear away Armenians in the east side of the new Turkish Republic, and the Greek expulsion to clear them from the western side of Asia Minor proper. But by the time of Bulgarian, Serbian, and Greek independence, there was a huge amount of Asian Turkish blood mixed in. I don’t know how we would deal with that, and it isn’t something we could predict from the hypothetical chain of unbreakable events mentioned above. (It’s not a General Theory that explains everything.) Some cultures or single ethnic states expel mixed residents, some just expel those who principally identify with the former dominant culture. The age old cycle doesn’t pretend to make a prediction about how that problem would be solved. We’ve seen how Germanics were treated in the Czech Republic and Poland when the short lived German Reich ended in 1945 (expulsion), and we are seeing how Palestinians & Arab Semites are being treated by the Jewish Semites today. Someone might say, well, what good is this hypothesis if it fails to predict everything. It helps us think about what has to be done, and what has always been done in every oppressive, multinational, multi-state empire in the world (except maybe for China, but news today tells us that their edges are fraying on the Tibetan and western Chinese Muslim areas so we’ll see). It’s a bloody damn business whether it’s on automatic pilot or it’s not. PS: We do have a good example of what happens to a European country when it is manifestly controlled by Jewish Semites—I have reference to East German when, it is reliably asserted, the dictators sought to import as many Turkish and Vietnamese nationals in just the effort outlined by Fred. I believe then they called it electing a new people, which sounds like race replacement with a tawdry party dress on. 43
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 18, 2009, 08:57 PM | # For BrusselsJournal.com race-replacement means nothing, zero, nada. Islam is the one and only threat. OK, Islam, got it! It’s the only game in town! Nothing else is going on, nothing else exists. Never ever forget that! Race-replacement doesn’t exist. What we have to fear is all of us changing into Moslems. Not Negroes, all of us turning into Negroes is OK, it’s fine. Don’t worry about it, it’s fine, no problem, everyone’ll do just fine as a Negro. Moslems are what we have to watch out for. http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3876 What an idiot this Landen guy is. And what a little neocon toady BrusselsJournal.com has turned into. 44
Posted by EA Steve on April 19, 2009, 03:07 AM | # For BrusselsJournal.com race-replacement means nothing, zero, nada. Islam is the one and only threat. OK, Islam, got it! It’s the only game in town! Nothing else is going on, nothing else exists. Never ever forget that! Race-replacement doesn’t exist. What we have to fear is all of us changing into Moslems. Not Negroes, all of us turning into Negroes is OK, it’s fine. Don’t worry about it, it’s fine, no problem, everyone’ll do just fine as a Negro. Moslems are what we have to watch out for. http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3876 What an idiot this Landen guy is. And what a little neocon toady BrusselsJournal.com has turned into. Fred, where in the article, does he say racial preservation is unimportant? 45
Posted by majorityrights.com on April 19, 2009, 07:06 AM | # Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 19, 2009, 12:57 AM | # For BrusselsJournal.com race-replacement means nothing, zero, nada. Islam is the one and only threat. OK, Islam, got it! It’s the only game in town! Nothing else is going on, nothing else exists. Never ever forget that! Race-replacement doesn’t exist. What we have to fear is all of us changing into Moslems. Not Negroes, all of us turning into Negroes is OK, it’s fine. Don’t worry about it, it’s fine, no problem, everyone’ll do just fine as a Negro. Moslems are what we have to watch out for. Scrooby as EA Steve points out “Fred, where in the article, does he say racial preservation is unimportant?” Besides No one has to worry about becoming muslim (LOL). Islam (Quran) will only appeal to people who are Ratiionalistic in the wildest sense. Edward Montet, ‘La Propagande Chretienne et ses Adversaries Musulmans,’ Paris 1890. (Also in T.W. Arnold in ‘The Preaching of Islam,’ London 1913.) “Islam is a religion that is essentially rationalistic in the widest sense of this term considered etymologically and historically….” The quran clearly and categorically states: “Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. ” (Quran 2:256) 46
Posted by Guessedworker on April 19, 2009, 07:40 AM | # majorityrights.com - please get yourself another permanent handle if you wish to post here. Please post in good faith, also. Because I’ve yet to see any sign of that, and I’m not interesting in playing host to harmful ideological bacteria. What is it you didn’t understand about Fred’s comment? He wasn’t criticising Islam but those who reify it as the great foe, a la Spencer and the BJ people. Few of us who are not obliged to obey the rules of Judeophiliac realpolitik (which, for example, the BNP are) object to Islam as a religious faith. Moslems can believe whatever they like. We just don’t want them domiciling in Europe. 47
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 19, 2009, 07:41 AM | #
At that blog they show, by never talking about it and always talking instead about Islam (which, but for immigration, would constitute zero threat to the West), how unimportant they consider it to be. 48
Posted by John on April 19, 2009, 07:55 AM | # Do the aracialist “Islamophobes” consider these white Muslims exceptions to the rule? http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1239710701407&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
“King Zog”... truth is funnier that fictional comedy. 49
Posted by majorityrights.com on April 19, 2009, 08:04 AM | # Posted by Guessedworker on April 19, 2009, 11:40 AM | #
I know Fred wasnt critisizing Islam I never made the argument he was. I understood perfectly well what Fred was saying. Besides No one has to worry about becoming muslim (LOL). Islam (Quran) will only appeal to people who are Ratiionalistic in the wildest sense. “Moslems can believe whatever they like” We just don’t want them domiciling in Europe.Few of us who are not obliged to obey the rules of Judeophiliac realpolitik (which, for example, the BNP are) object to Islam as a religious faith. “Let there be no compulsion in religion.” (Quran 2:256) What part of it is it that YOU dont understand? You can want what you like and you can object to what you like. You can plan what you like. I am not here to stop anyone. In the end the reailty will speak for itself. I am not responsible for the actions of others and what course of life they decide to take and neither is islam. Please post in good faith, also. You mean you dont want to hear the truth. You mean Good faith is to post what you want to hear and not what I really think. I am not asking you to believe what I believe I know what I believe you know what you believe I know where Im going you know where your going so no hard feelings LOL 50
Posted by Guessedworker on April 19, 2009, 08:26 AM | #
Why are you even bothering to defend Islam to people who care no more about it than Pygmy shamanism? If Moslem populations were not in the West at all - and they shouldn’t be because they are not wanted by Europe’s native peoples - there would be no point in us discussing Islam at all. Good Faith is a purposive issue. Yours appears to be to attack people who don’t share your own worldview ... people, mark you, not their words or their ideas. If that is not the case then change your handle for starters, please, and bring positive ideas to the table. Help us solve the problem before us. Don’t waste our time by introducing specious difficulties to it. 51
Posted by White Western Man on April 19, 2009, 08:33 AM | # The people in Europe who keep crying “ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM! ISLAM IS THE ENEMY! ISLAM WANTS TO TAKE OVER EUROPE AND EVEN THE ENTIRE WORLD! PARIS IS BECOMING ISLAMIZED! LONDON IS BECOMING LONDONISTAN AND A HOTBED OF THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST NETWORK!” are missing the point entirely - it’s not Islam that is the problem…the problem is clearly the millions of non-White immigrants that are attempting to permanently colonize White European countries who just so happen to bring Islam with them. In America an analogous situation would be like claiming the same things about the Latin American brand of Catholicism brought by the tens of millions of Latin Americans who are colonizing White North America - “LATIN AMERICAN CATHOLICISM IS THE PROBLEM! LATIN AMERICAN CATHOLICISM IS THE ENEMY! LATIN AMERICAN CATHOLICISM WANTS TO TAKE OVER AMERICA AND EVEN THE ENTIRE WORLD! LOS ANGELES IS BECOMING INFESTED WITH LATIN AMERICAN CATHOLICISM! CALIFORNIA IS BECOMING MEXIFORNIA AND A HOTBED OF THE LATIN AMERICAN CATHOLIC TERRORIST NETWORK!” - which is of course absurd, just like the above arguments regarding Islam. Like the tens of millions of non-White invaders in Europe who just happen to be overwhelmingly Muslim, it’s obvious that it’s not Latin America Catholicism that is the problem in America - the problem is clearly the tens of millions of non-White Latin Americans that are invading and colonizing White North America and who just happen to be Latin American Catholics. One of the most important things to understand about history is that race/ethnicity ALWAYS trumps religion in importance and significance because in the grand scheme of things religion(s) are comparatively transitory, rather disposable, and short-lived when compared to race/ethnicity which is of course MUCH more ancient and primal. Think about it: religion is written outside of us on the page with mere ink while race/ethnicity is literally written within us in our blood/DNA. 52
Posted by majorityrights.com on April 19, 2009, 08:59 AM | # Posted by Guessedworker on April 19, 2009, 12:26 PM | # “Let there be no compulsion in religion.” (Quran 2:256) What part of it is it that YOU dont understand? Why are you even bothering to defend Islam to people who care no more about it than Pygmy shamanism? Are you feeling alright ? I am not defending islam There is no need for me to defend what clearly speaks for itself and needs no defence. If it was a case of defense I could have posted alot more. “If Moslem populations were not in the West at all - and they shouldn’t be because they are not wanted by Europe’s native peoples - there would be no point in us discussing Islam at all.” This is my land. The geographiocal land that you are arguing about does not belong to you. I will accept the land belongs to you when you bring me your proof the proof that you physically created this “geographical land” called Europe. It is not unreasonable to ask is it I mean after all you are claiming physical land itself belongs to you. I dont want proof that you reside here but proof that you physically created this geographical land and that you alone as its creator can destroy it. “and they shouldn’t be because they are not wanted by Europe’s native peoples “- What makes you believe we care if we are wanted or not by you. Who cares and who has ever cared what you or Europe wants or has ever wanted “Good Faith is a purposive issue. Yours appears to be to attack people who don’t share your own worldview ... people, mark you, not their words or their ideas.” As for the above I have clearly and categorically said to you You can argue what you like you can think what you like you can do what you like you can say what you like you can be what you like you can believe what you like you can act how you like etc… you can “you can” what you like “there would be no point in us discussing Islam at all” There is no point in you discussing something that has no relation to you anyway. No one is wasting Your time but yourself a point that you are so deluded that you cannot even see. I dont mean you are wasting your time wanting to save your white race I mean you are wasting your time with all this non-stop talk pages and pages .... You have made your argument. Why are you looking for the easy way out? In expecting everyone else to help you achieve it? Why dont you carry it through with full conviction if you are so truthfull? 53
Posted by Captainchaos on April 19, 2009, 09:45 AM | #
So you claim ownership of the land but deny said to the people, White people, whose ancestors have called it home for tens of thousands of years. Your logic is truly dizzying.
We don’t believe you care what Whites think regarding your presence in our ancestral lands, if you did, you would not be here.
The talk is necessary to develop the ideas that are crucial to saving the White race.
It will be a group effort that requires the effort many of our people to achieve the salvation of our people. Also, there is the desire to remove the non-White peoples from our lands in humane fashion, eschewing barbarism; that requires the proper mindset and group cooperation. Your belligerence is comical. If our people were united in fighting for our survival with no concern for the welfare of other peoples removing non-Whites from our lands would be the least of your concerns. If we wanted your oil we could have it, with a Carthaginian style razing of your lands as the means employed; make no mistake about it. You do not want to engage in a contest of ‘last man standing wins’ with the White race, it will not go well for you. 54
Posted by Dasein on April 19, 2009, 09:59 AM | # The points that GW and White Western Man are making took me a while to realize. Until one sees that race is the fundamental issue, one is constantly on the defensive against charges of racism. Being explicit about race and genetic interests puts leftists on the defensive, and they don’t have any proper defense except to admit that they are degenerates and that, contrary to their propoganda, they don’t value diversity. 55
Posted by Guessedworker on April 19, 2009, 11:05 AM | # This is my land. The geographiocal land that you are arguing about does not belong to you. I will accept the land belongs to you when you bring me your proof the proof that you physically created this “geographical land” called Europe. It would seem that you are living in another man’s house - the house built by European hands. Go in peace. If you stay, there will be war. But I think you know that. 56
Posted by EA Steve on April 19, 2009, 01:35 PM | # Often half-witted EA Steve? At least I don’t believe in a whole conspiracy theory of Jews completely controlling the world, intent on eliminating all White Gentiles, just out of pure conspiring; and then not one Jew leaking the grand conspiracy! And at least I don’t keep repeating my hypothetical Jewish ancestry, whilst fueling the flames for Nazi-like anti-semitism! (which is akin to encouraging lions to eat you) One irony is that you seem to be encouraging Nazis who will hate you much more than (most of) the Jews now in positions of power ever could. At that blog they show, by never talking about it and always talking instead about Islam (which, but for immigration, would constitute zero threat to the West), how unimportant they consider it to be. I am sorry, Fred! But I don’t believe he doesn’t care by default, just because he hasn’t mentioned it. Maybe it’s just a specialization-site, centered on stopping Islam. Discrediting Islam is much less of a taboo than calling for racial preservation; yet the former is still a taboo, too; just less of one. So, maybe, Brussels Journal is just stretching the line, using what little political capital it has, to addresss a major problem, whilst still attracting a big audience from the mainstream. Hatred of Islam will most likely serve as a justification to turn pro-White. Many seem to treat it like a zero-sum game, between race and religion. However, it is not! Once Europeans promote kicking out Islam, at least most will find a love for their respective ethnic group; it will be like getting a pack of peanuts and a drink on your airline flight; or a pen to fill out your debit card receipt; at least for many Europeans. Although I would like evidence he doesn’t care about racial preservation, before we just say he does, I will concede he most likely just isn’t thinking about it and/or might actually not care yet (just like Fjordman before he converted to racial preservation). However, we can’t just jump to conclusions too soon, in this regard. I think the more important answer would be “He doesn’t mention the race issue,” not that “He doesn’t care about it.” Also, even if he didn’t care about race replacement, why not at least cherish his posts about defending Western Christianity? That’s a virtue in itself; is it not? 58
Posted by Armor on April 22, 2009, 10:12 AM | #
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Posted by Armor on April 22, 2009, 10:57 AM | # me: “We can also use other words like kinship or blood ties… “ Or we could simply say that it is important to share the same “national identity”. Nation is derived from the Latin word natio (nation, people; birth). It means a population born from the same origin. The “civic nation” is only an oxymoron. 60
Posted by majorityrights on April 22, 2009, 12:15 PM | # Posted by Guessedworker on April 19, 2009, 03:05 PM | # This is my land. The geographiocal land that you are arguing about does not belong to you. I will accept the land belongs to you when you bring me your proof the proof that you physically created this “geographical land” called Europe. It would seem that you are living in another man’s house - the house built by European hands. Go in peace. If you stay, there will be war. But I think you know that. Unless you can bring me the proof Ive requested which of course you cant because your all talk I will take it you accept my statement “This is my land” to you as clear, categorical and concise If you dont I will repeat it again This is my land and it belongs to me and there is nothing you can do about it and if there is something you can do about it then DO IT! but there doesnt seem to be much because if you could you wouldnt be sat here begging me and everyone else to help you LOOOL “please, and bring positive ideas to the table. Help us solve the problem before us. Don’t waste our time by introducing specious” Positive idea for you I suggest you go shoot yourself it will be the better option for you There is after all everything in the world you can do isnt there? LOL. We know more about you people than you know about yourselves. 61
Posted by majorityrights on April 22, 2009, 01:02 PM | # Posted by Captainchaos on April 19, 2009, 01:45 PM | # This is my land. The geographiocal land that you are arguing about does not belong to you. So you claim ownership of the land but deny said to the people, White people, whose ancestors have called it home for tens of thousands of years. Your logic is truly dizzying. If you paid attention closesly you smart intellectual you would have noted my above respose to guessedworker was to his provocation “We just don’t want them domiciling in Europe”. “ “If Moslem populations were not in the West at all - and they shouldn’t be because they are not wanted by Europe’s native peoples” and it was not just said in response to nothing. I merely said “This is my land” Nowhere did I make any argument or claim to “ownership of the land” Nowhere did I state or make the argument that the This is my Land it belongs to me alone or This is my land and I own it. The fact that you cant even understand my argument and claim “Your logic is truly dizzying” says alot more about your logic and its more than just truly dazzling nay its comical. “We don’t believe you care what Whites think regarding your presence in our ancestral lands, if you did, you would not be here” Ofcourse you are wrong about the above its actually You do believe I dont care what Whites think regarding my presence in your ancestral lands, if you didnt, you wouldnt make a point of it LOL “Your belligerence is comical” Your all talk no action, small talk, pretence so called intellectual responses, your assumptions. your expectations from people are even more comical. “You do not want to engage in a contest of ‘last man standing wins’ with the White race” Let me categorically state it clearly to you ONCE AND FOR ALL so that there is no doubt in your minds whatsoever as to what Im saying - Plan what you want to plan- Do what you have to do. I will do what I have to do and then we will see who is the best of Planners “it will not go well for you” You have lost the war before its begun Your whole pretence crap on here is wonderfully amusing. The whole all talk no actions, the whole silent planning the whole drama on this website is Hilarious! The whole trying to pull a fast one over everyone Why go down a road you dont have the balls to carry through because if you have the balls to carry it through then do it is my simple message and ejoy your white mans paradise:-). 62
Posted by Captainchaos on April 22, 2009, 01:04 PM | #
The German Wehrmacht defeated France in six weeks, pushed the British off the European continent and nearly brought the mighty Soviet Union to its knees; everywhere, and at all times outnumbered. Germany had reserves of poison gas but never used it. Just how do you think a few tens of millions of non-Whites would fare in an all-out war of annihilation with a Europe fighting with the utter fanaticism commensurate with the stakes of staving off the very physical/genetic destruction of its people? Know this, the cost of victory to us, and the degree of suffering inflicted upon us, will determine just what price we will force our enemies to pay. Perhaps reclaiming our lands will no longer be enough in the tribally inflamed minds of our people. We may just be coming for your lands next; tread lightly. Do you really have the balls to play for all the marbles? 63
Posted by majorityrights on April 22, 2009, 01:08 PM | # Posted by Guessedworker on April 19, 2009, 12:26 PM | # ” If Moslem populations were not in the West at all - and they shouldn’t be because they are not wanted by Europe’s native peoples “ We are HERE we are ALREADY here. Islam is here. Islam is not going to come to the west. Islam is not coming to the west. Islam is in the west. Islam has arrived Im not interested in the small talk response from any of you. Ive made my stance Clear. 64
Posted by majorityrights on April 22, 2009, 01:11 PM | # Posted by Captainchaos on April 22, 2009, 05:04 PM | # Do you really have the balls to play for all the marbles? I have answered your question clearly and categorically:-). Do you really only have small talk to offer? 65
Posted by Captainchaos on April 22, 2009, 02:21 PM | #
Talk now, action later. BNP activists are willing to literally have their faces smashed with hammers rather than capitulate. The Russians, well, be thankful you are not dealing with Russians. How is it that Putin puts down Islamic insurgencies in the Caucasus? In some instances by having his soldiers behead the opposition and placing their noggins on sticks in the village square. Whatever sense of masculine, forward marching sense of destiny you effeminate Asiatic rabble have is what the White race has allowed you to have. Didn’t you know that? If you want the land be prepared to die for it. 66
Posted by Allah loves the White man on April 22, 2009, 03:41 PM | # majority rights said
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Posted by torgrim on April 22, 2009, 04:35 PM | # “We are HERE we are ALREADY here. Islam is here.” M.J.> You boast too soon. You overrate “yourself”. Even peaceful Norway has had it with your tribe. Go piss off! 68
Posted by Lord O' The Mountebanks on April 22, 2009, 04:41 PM | #
Certainly Putin knows the ways of intimidation and terror; he learned his trade during the Bolshevik suppression of Ostdeutschland. But calling him “Russian” is a stretch: His cabinet is filled with Jews, he ran against a Jew who withdrew to get him elected, he has continually supported the rights of Russian Ashkenazim to use Russia as a base for Yid operations, he is thick with the Jew-run St. Petersburg mafia, and so forth. In short: He’s a Hebe. His support of Russian gentiles, and indeed his very election, were ways of diverting true Russian nationalism from taking hold. And true to that legacy, the Jews still have a stranglehold on Russia. Their head-on confrontation with American Jewry is most akin to a feud between two factions of La Cosa Nostra. 69
Posted by Lord O' The Mountebanks on April 22, 2009, 04:46 PM | # Addendum: The Jew oligarchs of Russia were fall guys, plain and simple. For instance, after Khodorkovsky was imprisoned he ceded his gargantuan oil share to none other than Jacob Rothschild. The rest were similarly “hooked up” during the Rape of Russia. They needed scapegoats. By the way, the oligarchs who didn’t flee to Israel are living like Kings in Russian “prison” today. 70
Posted by Lord O' The Mountebanks on April 22, 2009, 04:48 PM | #
Clarification: “They” meaning Putin’s faux-nationalist government. 71
Posted by Lord O' The Mountebanks on April 22, 2009, 04:54 PM | # Addendum again: Most of the gentiles who have benefited from Putin’s rule are the urban-dwelling descendants of non-Jewish Soviet elites. 72
Posted by Captainchaos on April 22, 2009, 05:43 PM | # Certainly the Putin regime provides a less vigorous, thoroughgoing revitalization of the Russian nation and cleansing of the Jewish parasite from the Russian racial body than outright National Socialism would; yet it is much better than nothing. It buys the Russian people time, it buys our race some time by providing a substantial opposition by a White nation to the anti-White genocidalism promulgated by the Judeo-American regime. If Putin were to expel the Jews, it would almost certainly mean war with Judeo-America. If we want to pave the way to remove the Jewish cancer from our race globally we must strip the Jew of his power here in North America. The time has come to expel the Jew! 73
Posted by Thunder on April 22, 2009, 06:24 PM | # This seems as appropriate a place as any on this website to post this. I found the following article very interesting and although I do not agree with all of it much of it is enligtening. I would be very interested in your (majority rights readers) take on it. http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/quinn/2009/0421.html 74
Posted by National Socialist on April 22, 2009, 07:27 PM | # Captainchaos wrote: “If Putin were to expel the Jews, it would almost certainly mean war with Judeo-America. If we want to pave the way to remove the Jewish cancer from our race globally we must strip the Jew of his power here in North America. “ North America is becoming more and more irrelevant. In a couple of years the U.S.A will not be in a position to wage wars with any nation. Ofcourse it has nukes. But the fact is China is on the rise (it will still take about 15-20 years for it to truly become a superpower) and I doubt if the kiks will be able to do the same in China what they did in the U.S.A. With the U.S.A and U.K weak and bankrupt and with China (hopefully) immune to Jewish infection there will be no rival to Russia. However the kiks might try to start a war between the Chinese and Russians, the same way they succeeded in starting a war between the United States of America and Imperial Japan back in WW2. 75
Posted by q on April 22, 2009, 07:42 PM | #
Hah! Sadly you’re barking up the wrong tree. Why? Have you checked out the racial demographic trajectory of Euro Russians lately? 76
Posted by Lord O' The Mountebanks on April 22, 2009, 07:42 PM | #
Yes, no argument here. At least White gentiles get something in Russia, unlike here in Yankee-Judaea where being White will soon be a hate crime. Russia was on the way to NS pre-Putin though, which the Jews had to stop.
Hmm. I’m not sure he’d want to, if you catch my meaning. Anyway, the Russian Jews are more pragmatic and less hotheaded than the insane fuckers in this country. If any war were to begin, it would be initiated by the psychopath Jews of America. But the priority is, as you say, the toppling of the Jew power structure here in America. Pro-White populism will work, but it’s still in it’s early phases - there is much work to be done.
As the niggers would say: “Mos’ def!” 77
Posted by National Socialist on April 22, 2009, 07:55 PM | # q, 78
Posted by Wandrin on April 22, 2009, 07:57 PM | # @Thunder Interesting article I thought - I liked the bit about the piles of sand as it’s more or less how I see the current situation - globalisation and the multi-cult has added so much instability into the system that the whole structure has become very shaky. This is particularly true of the US because, unfortunately, they are the epicentre of both the multi-cult and the drive for globalisation. As the US weakens, other powers around the globe will flex their muscles adding even more instability. I do think we’re heading into very chaotic times. Another thing that struck me reading the article was the sense of the extreme severity of his predictions coupled with avoiding being too specific on the causes. I imagine articles like it will become frequent - ever more dire warnings but only hints at the causes. 79
Posted by Wandrin on April 22, 2009, 08:07 PM | # The neocons hate Putin - unless it’s solely due to their usual never ending historic revenge thing (over Cossacks this time) then he can’t be all bad. 80
Posted by Captainchaos on April 22, 2009, 08:20 PM | #
I seriously doubt Putin is a Jew. 81
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 22, 2009, 08:25 PM | # Here’s a thread CvH started recently at the WhiteAmerica.us forum (CvH signs sometimes as “Ogenoct”): http://whiteamerica.us/forum/showthread.php?t=1428 . Here’s CvH’s comment underneath his thread-starter post:
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Posted by Lord O' The Mountebanks on April 22, 2009, 08:35 PM | #
It is a tricky situation because plenty of ethnic Jews have “Russified” their names and even religion in some cases (and Putin is officially Russian Orthodox). It is hard to know whether he has Jewish ancestry. He kind of looks Jewish - big nose, close-set eyes, short. If not, he is certainly an agent of Russian Jewry. Multiculturalism would not work in Russia - Russian nationalism experienced a resurgence starting in WWII that never ceased until the USSR collapsed. So the Russian Yeshiva had to throw the people a few bones. But ultimately they are still the movers and shakers, not to mention exploiters, in Mother Russia. I tend to share your assessment of Russia though, and I’ve been there and seen it with my own eyes. I just wish they would stop the nuclear aid to Iran - US-ZOG is that much more likely to order an Iran strike as a result. 83
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 22, 2009, 08:40 PM | # Needless to say, CvH completely misjudges the Jews as a whole. He doesn’t understand them, doesn’t know them at all well, that is clear. Jews are CvH’s weak suit. His strong suit is his opposition to race-replacement. (The thing I like least about him is his anti-Germanism but that’s a German thing — non-Germans wouldn’t have a feel for that.) 84
Posted by National Socialist on April 22, 2009, 08:45 PM | # Putin may not be jewish but is CvH a kike? Some kike in the family tree? Why do European ‘aristocrats’ support these lying, cheating, decieving scum, the jews? ‘Lord’ Aldington is a jew. 85
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 22, 2009, 08:54 PM | #
It’s exactly the same with Jobling of course. His understanding of Jews amounts to zilch: he’s useless on that. He’s an excellent ally on race-replacement however. Which is what counts. 86
Posted by National Socialist on April 22, 2009, 09:19 PM | # Posted by Lord O’ The Mountebanks I tend to share your assessment of Russia though, and I’ve been there and seen it with my own eyes.
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Posted by Captainchaos on April 22, 2009, 09:22 PM | # Btw, I don’t support a one-drop of Jewish blood rule for labeling Whites of partial Jewish ancestry as non-White. Neither did the National Socialists. What good blood we have from them we will take, and dilute; as the National socialists planned to do. The clear path is to shut the door permanently to any further admixture at some point, and then enjoy all the pro-social blessings that flow from genetic homogeneity. The one-drop rule regarding Negro admixture does most certainly apply, however. 88
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 22, 2009, 09:31 PM | #
Absolutely agreed. Central, in fact. 89
Posted by Thunder on April 22, 2009, 10:40 PM | # Wandrin, Thanks for your comments. I have been reading increasingly more lately about chaotic times ahead, from sites that ordinarily do not ascribe to such views. Have you seen the audiovisual Crash Course provided here?: 90
Posted by Lord O' The Mountebanks on April 22, 2009, 10:54 PM | #
Agreed. People of partial Jewish heritage don’t necessarily inherit the most repugnant traits of larger Jewry. Many are also gifted in the sciences, etc. But most half-Jews I’ve known were not to be trusted under any circumstances. The less the admixture the better, of course.
Mulattoes? I’ve known my share. In general they are stupid, shiftless, mentally-unstable and hate White people. There is also evidence that North Europid-Negroid mixes are biologically unstable (yeah, big surprise when you cross Eurasian anatomically modern humans with primitive sub-Saharan tropical critters - creatures from the Isle of Doctor Moreau). 91
Posted by Wandrin on April 22, 2009, 11:14 PM | # CC,
Agree, the alien tribal identity is what causes the problem in my view - so yes, dilute the blood, dilute the identity.
That’s one of the reasons neocons hate Putin.
I hadn’t seen it. I’ll check it out. 92
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 23, 2009, 12:02 AM | # Here’s another piece in which der Hoffmeister demonstrates how shallow is his knowledge of the subject, in what can only be called a striking display of naïveté: http://whiteamerica.us/forum/showthread.php?t=1472 . Some people’s stuff you read is pretty much right every sentence, and others’ pretty much wrong every sentence, so reading either of those types of stuff goes fairly smoothly. Der H’s stuff, on the other hand, constantly swings violently, every few sentences, sometimes every other sentence, from right all the way to the 180-degree diametrical opposite of right, and back again to right, then to not just wrong but completely, jaw-droppingly wrong, and so on, wildly swinging back and forth from one extreme (“correct”) to the other extreme (180 degrees out of phase with “correct”). Reading this stuff is the equivalent of riding on one of these giant amusement-park roller coasters. You walk away feeling a need to throw up. 93
Posted by Dasein on April 23, 2009, 07:16 AM | #
I also agree that different rules need to apply here. I’ve often wondered whether there are Jews who are upset that Europids have acquired some of their alleles (specifically, those associated with high intelligence). In MacDonald’s trilogy he focuses on the mostly one-way gene flow as enhancing the fitness of Jewish males (and limiting the reproductive opportunities for Gentile males). I see this point, but it also seems that these Jewish miscegenators have violated a form of hereditary patent law. The Jewish community through its eugenic strivings were able to produce these alleles, and now the Gentile population gets to benefit**. It reminds me of the putative introgression of Neanderthal alleles to Europids (summarized nicely in The 10,000 Year Explosion). Could well be that the creative intelligence of Europids results from this introgression. It raises interesting questions about what laws would be enacted in a world where one ethnic group was seeking to create improved alleles (via eugenic breeding or biotechnology) and sought to keep this advantage once acquired. ** Of course there there are other inherited traits that are not so desirable. The evolutionary pressures created by the current Western social environment also means that many behaviours associated with allele combinations dominant in Negroes will be under positive selection- another reason to support a one-drop rule. 94
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 23, 2009, 08:39 AM | #
Euros have no need whatsoever of Jewish “smart genes.” None. Zero. They’re plenty smart enough on their own and fully as smart as the Jews, Hindus, and Orientals — nay, smarter. They have all the smart genes they need. In fact, when you notice how it’s only the Ashkenazis among Jews who are smart (the Sephardics and Mizrahis are, well ... how to put this? ... less well endowed in the brain grey matter department, shall we say?, which, incidentally, proves that Johan Hari must be either Sephardic or Mizrahi), you realize where they got their smartness genes from in the first place: Euros. If smartness came from the Jews, Israel’s IQ would be 115 and the IQ of German and Polish Jews 94 instead of the exact reverse which we see. By marrying Euro women early on, the Jews captured the Euro smart genes and then distilled them into concentrated form for themselves. By marrying Arab and North African women the Sephardics and Mizrahis ... uhhhhh ......... well, let’s not get into that .......). Euros are not losing out to the Jews because of Jewish smartness. That’s not the reason. In absolute numbers our smart layer is way bigger. No, in order to stop losing, what Euros need isn’t “more Jewish smart genes,” it’s 1) more Jewish wake-up-and-smell-the-coffee genes and 2) fewer Euro bovine genes, the genes that make you stand there placidly chewing the cud while being led to the slaughter. 95
Posted by Dasein on April 23, 2009, 09:30 AM | # Fred, I also don’t think that Euros need any Jewish alleles. And you are quite correct that we are not losing because of a lack of intelligence (at least as measured by IQ tests). I should have said Ashkenazi instead of Jewish. Whether Ashkenazi IQ comes from a distillation of Euro smart genes or new alleles that arose under the selective pressure specific to their community (could be a combination, or something else) is open to debate. If Harpending et al. are correct, then some of these alleles arose recently. The point is the same though regardless of what types of genes are being discussed. If you belong to a race that thinks it is God’s word made DNA, you may resent non-chosen races possessing some of your genes. Surely there must be Jews who feel this way. And are there Europids who would begrudge Mullatoes their admixture? Many of the Negro civil rights leaders had strong Euro admixtures. To some degree our own alleles are being used again us. 96
Posted by torgrim on April 23, 2009, 02:41 PM | # From the above Essay; “A German likes wheat beer and quotes Schiller. An Irishman likes Guinness and quotes Joyce. It is as simple as that.” Nationalism under attack, Iceland a microcosm, the virtual “canary in the mine”. First the economic collapse, then the cure and look who shows up….! Check out the story about “a Kosher Easter in Iceland”. Also one of the largest drug busts in Iceland’s history with Ecstasy and Meth being brought into Iceland. It seems that Iceland’s salvation is to join the EU, ...stories all relevant to Iceland’s troubles. Iceland being small and isolated, makes those that commit this criminal activity easy to understand. First break the economy, then the will, bring in the solution and nationalism is rendered impotent. Debt and debt money is the trojan horse and the way that the degenerates take control of a nation. http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_life/?cat_id=16571&ew_o_a_id=322497 97
Posted by majorityrights on April 26, 2009, 05:09 AM | # Posted by torgrim on April 22, 2009, 08:35 PM | # “We are HERE we are ALREADY here. Islam is here.” M.J.> You boast too soon. You overrate “yourself”. Even peaceful Norway has had it with your tribe. Go piss off! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8008364.stm The Europeans/Whites are NOT WANTED in muslim lands (pakistan, egypt, indonisia, malaysia etc..), they wont be tolerated there hence so few of them compared to muslims in european lands. The muslims get smart they turn around and say we will do your wokr for you get rid of these westerners/whites and they kick them out but there in europe do you see thoose of other european countries do the same they reason they dont is simple because they cant. “Even peaceful Norway has had it with your tribe” We muslims have had it with you Jokers! We have had it with you stealing our values,our principles, our beliefs, our ideas and applying them under the european banner and telling us what to do and how to live our lives. You win because you cheat its why you have always won in the past but theres only so long that formula is going to work. So take your own advice and P*** off! 98
Posted by majorityrights on April 26, 2009, 05:11 AM | # * but where in europe do you see thoose of other european countries do the same they reason they dont is simple because they cant. 99
Posted by majorityrights on April 26, 2009, 06:12 AM | # Posted by Allah loves the White man on April 22, 2009, 07:41 PM | # majority rights said You scum, Allah is on our side. He hates you because you follow the false messenger Mohammed. ALLAH is using you to awaken Europeans from their slumber and to make them pull up their socks. After WW2, thanks to an extreme dose of liberalism, White would have died out naturally. Shocked by the carnage of the war, feeling guilty because of the myth of the holocaust, the post war hippie Whites would have died out through drugs overdose, lack of propose, guilt and low birth rate anyways.
Sura Kafirun No. 109 (Verses 1-6) I worship not what you worship, Nor do you worship Whom I worship, Neither shall I worship what you worship, Nor will you worship Whom I worship, TO YOU BE YOUR RELIGION, AND TO ME MY RELIGION. Take particular note of the last line because cant get clearer to you than that “But this happened solely because GOD (ALLAH), our lord and the lord of the universe wants to use you as a tool to awaken the children of Europe” Listen to this joker trying to get smart now he knows hes been caught out! but hes just been caught out all over again LOL! “Allah loves the White man” This Joker has no clue he doesnt even realise he sounds like a desperate Wannabe Muslim/Wannabe Arab using the very muslim/islamic/arabic terms from the very foreign culture/religion he hates LOOOL Stick to calling what you worship that which you worship unless you want to sound EMBARESSINGLY DESPERATE. On a final note just to be kind to you, you believe and worship “ALLAH” we believe and worship “THERE IS NO GOD-BUT ALLAH” So it is clear we dont worship what you worship and you dont worship what we worship 100
Posted by torgrim on April 26, 2009, 05:13 PM | # posted by” MJ -Joker”...“The European/White are NOT WANTED in Muslim lands….kick them out but there in Europe do you see those of other European Countries do the same the reason they don’t is simply they can’t-” What you don’t seem to understand is that not once, has the Western White Man been consulted, asked, publically debated or given a choice about Muslims in the West. No some other tribe, and their sycrophants, have set that agenda. As to the Western White Man being in Muslim Lands, that in my opinion was done through treachery that has lead to a war that was foisted upon the West through lies. As to, “the reason they don’t is simply can’t”...again, refer to the above agenda, which is not Ours. From the previous post, , this is not over. 101
Posted by torgrim on April 26, 2009, 05:17 PM | # should be- from a previous post, you boast too soon, this is not over. 102
Posted by majorityrights.com on April 27, 2009, 11:54 AM | # Posted by torgrim on April 26, 2009, 09:13 PM | # “posted by” MJ -Joker”...“The European/White are NOT WANTED in Muslim lands….kick them out but there in Europe do you see those of other European Countries do the same the reason they don’t is simply they can’t-” What I had actually posted MJ-Joker was: “The Europeans/Whites are NOT WANTED in muslim lands (pakistan, egypt, indonisia, malaysia etc..), they wont be tolerated there hence so few of them compared to muslims in european lands. The muslims get smart they turn around and say we will do your wokr for you get rid of these westerners/whites and they kick them out but there in europe do you see thoose of other european countries do the same they reason they dont is simple because they cant”. You cant even see the positive point that is being made here. The point wasnt to attack you and nor were you being attacked the point being made was when you are unhappy with a situation do something about it and I gave an example of this and the point I was making was that the very same thing your complaining about when it happens in muslim lands at least muslims do something practical about it and dont sit 24-7 on the internet and moaning and complain hence my question ” but where in europe do you see thoose of other european countries do the same?” It was to say that why arent/dont europeans do the same get smart about there situation without having to resort to a road that will lead to physical violence and I concluded that perhaps the reason they dont was because “they cant” because if they could they wouldnt be in the mess they are considering the fact they have recognised what in there eyes is the problem so given the recognition and given nothing has still been done. What you don’t seem to understand is that not once, has the Western White Man been consulted, asked, publically debated or given a choice about Muslims in the West. No some other tribe, and their sycrophants, have set that agenda. Is it my responsibility to understand it or yours? Is it my fault you havnt been consulted? if not then why do you expect me to understand it? Take it up with thoose who were supposed to have consulted you not me. Its not my fault someone is out to destroy your race/people. “As to the Western White Man being in Muslim Lands, that in my opinion was done through treachery that has lead to a war that was foisted upon the West through lies.” Whatever your opinion the point is your not wanted in muslim lands and the muslims have done something about not keeping you there without having to resort to violence against you whereas you havnt. “From the previous post, , this is not over. This is over in so far as we know what what we have to do Posted by torgrim on April 22, 2009, 08:35 PM | # “You boast too soon. You overrate “yourself” You attribute things to people too quick. I have boasted about nothing and nor have I rated myself in any way. The fact that I have pointed out certain things which unpleasent as they may be to you doesnt constitute boasting or overating myself. I have never claimed to be smart never mind smarter than any of you. The very fact you make such a comment points to your belief not mine that you think Im rating myself or boasting but if thats the case you have a very funny way of judging/analysing. You jump to assumptions and conclusions too quick. I know what I see and how I see the world and you know what you see and how you see the world and clearly we dont see it the same way whats so boastfull or overating about that? I have no interest in how you view your race or what you do with or to your race or your desire to preserve it. I have nothing against it or for it. Its simply clearly not my buissness. The only aspect I have interest in is that aspect that affects me and I hope you can understand that MJ -Joker/torgrim whatever your called both suit you 103
Posted by majorityrights.com on April 27, 2009, 12:00 PM | # Posted by White Western Man on April 19, 2009, 12:33 PM | # The people in Europe who keep crying “ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM! ISLAM IS THE ENEMY! ISLAM WANTS TO TAKE OVER EUROPE AND EVEN THE ENTIRE WORLD! PARIS IS BECOMING ISLAMIZED! LONDON IS BECOMING LONDONISTAN AND A HOTBED OF THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST NETWORK!” are missing the point entirely - it’s not Islam that is the problem…the problem is clearly the millions of non-White immigrants that are attempting to permanently colonize White European countries who just so happen to bring Islam with them.
Qur’an 49:13 and all that follows from it 104
Posted by majorityrights.com on April 27, 2009, 12:10 PM | # Posted by Captainchaos on April 22, 2009, 06:21 PM | # Whatever sense of masculine, forward marching sense of destiny you effeminate Asiatic rabble have is what the White race has allowed you to have. Didn’t you know that? The white effeminate gay talking about masculinity and being a real man is the biggest joke no I mean its the biggest Joke! 105
Posted by majorityrights on April 27, 2009, 12:58 PM | # Posted by Captainchaos on April 22, 2009, 06:21 PM | # Whatever sense of masculine, forward marching sense of destiny you effeminate Asiatic rabble have is what the White race has allowed you to have. Didn’t you know that? The weak, powerless, feeble,frail, infirm,debilitated, decrepit, enervated,defencless,deficient, flimsy,insipid white man is talking about allowing us to have our sense of destiny when he cant even allow himself to save his own LOL. Talk about being a real Man when you get round to being one. 106
Posted by Lord of the Mountebanks on April 27, 2009, 03:01 PM | #
Racist! And ask yourself: If we’re all that you say just above, what does that make subhuman wogs like you? 107
Posted by islamisforqueers.com on April 27, 2009, 03:07 PM | # Queer’an 982:28 Prophet Mohammad 108
Posted by torgrim on April 27, 2009, 03:40 PM | # @ M.J. Joker aka, (majority rights), “It’s not my fault someone is out to destroy your Race/people.” Well if you are in the middle of a land that is being overrun by a foreign tribe, be it in N. America or Europe and the majority people, have not even asked if this was something they wanted, you had better understand the reason for not wanting to be race-replaced! As far as being your “fault” for the White race being “destroyed”, you have to take some responsibility for the race-replacement if you are now the colonizers. torgrim 109
Posted by Dasein on April 27, 2009, 04:43 PM | # Kudos to Torgrim for being able to even understand this retard’s gobbledegook. I look at Torgrim’s post and I think, wow how could something that actually makes sense arise from such nonsense. It’s like the proverbial watch in the desert. 111
Posted by majorityrights on May 03, 2009, 06:21 AM | # Posted by torgrim on April 27, 2009, 07:40 PM | # Well if you are in the middle of a land that is being overrun by a foreign tribe, be it in N. America or Europe and the majority people, have not even asked if this was something they wanted, you had better understand the reason for not wanting to be race-replaced! As far as being your “fault” for the White race being “destroyed”, you have to take some responsibility for the race-replacement if you are now the colonizers.
Posted by Lord of the Mountebanks on April 27, 2009, 07:01 PM | # The weak, powerless, feeble,frail, infirm,debilitated, decrepit, enervated,defencless,deficient, flimsy,insipid white man is talking about allowing us to have our sense of destiny when he cant even allow himself to save his own LOL. Racist! And ask yourself: If we’re all that you say just above, what does that make subhuman wogs like you? A whole lot more than you bunch of desperate wannabes! Next entry: Police protection of child rapists Previous entry: Governor of the Republic of Texas Remembers the 10th Amendment |
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Posted by exPF on April 14, 2009, 04:58 PM | #
He must’ve had a rough night the night before if he woke up one morning and looked like Turkey.