Muslims continue Rioting in Paris Sub-Urb

Posted by Geoff Beck on November 01, 2005, 06:49 PM | #

slightly off topic: A video on the violence in South Africa.

Watch this video and know this is your future America. Get ready for it, prepare yourself and your children now!

http://www.africancrisis.org/Movies/FM_Small_000.WMV

30 Minutes

Posted by Truth Be Told on November 01, 2005, 06:58 PM | #

The silence of the mainstream media on these and similar other riots now spreading to Denmark (and elsewhere?) is a good sign that the media masters and their globalization managers are getting worried. IMHO.

Muslim rioters and gangs frighten Jews, among others. The Jews in the power structure of France will push for a crackdown, or, they may leave France altogether, as an Israeli president recently suggested. Afterward, the French may encourage the young Mohammedeans to do the same.

Have an escape plan and keep your powder dry, folks…

Posted by Phil on November 01, 2005, 07:23 PM | #

Watch this video and know this is your future America.

But this already happens in America. Most people do not notice it very much because Blacks are only 13 percent of the population in the US (as opposed to 85 percent in South Africa).

Posted by stari_momak on November 01, 2005, 07:45 PM | #

Let’s see, the British ‘Multicultural/Laissez Faire’ model of dealing with these problems hasn’t worked, the French policy of hard edged assimilation, scarf banning, and ideology of ‘we’re all French, we are all identitically citizens’ hasn’t worked. So, what works?

Posted by Geoff Beck on November 01, 2005, 07:46 PM | #

> But this already happens in America. Most people do not notice it very much

Agreed. America is nothing but a slow-motion riot.

Of course all the millions in taxes we pay goes to the Danegeld: “La Raza” and Black Tribes - if the Washington Tyranny every fails to pay off the tribes there will be tremendous violence.

A little known fact: the New Orlean’s Hurricane Katrina struck a few days BEFORE the welfare checks were to arrive.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 01, 2005, 09:35 PM | #

“Let’s see, the British ‘Multicultural/Laissez Faire’ model of dealing with these problems hasn’t worked, the French policy of hard edged assimilation, scarf banning, and ideology of ‘we’re all French, we are all identitically citizens’ hasn’t worked. So, what works?”  (—Stari Momak)

Not letting any more in, and sending the ones already here back. 

Sounds harsh, I know—but it’s the only thing that works.  Hey don’t blame the messenger ...

Posted by Matra on November 01, 2005, 10:12 PM | #

They’re at it again tonight. That’s six nights in a row. Is this the ‘new normal’?

Posted by Truth Be Told on November 02, 2005, 12:52 AM | #

That’s six nights in a row. Is this the ‘new normal’?

Perhaps its the new Euro Intifada.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 02, 2005, 01:25 AM | #

What we have to remember is, just as we hate it, the French élites who forced the entry of these people into France (and fully intend to keep on forcing more of it without limit until there are no Frenchmen left) love it.  We’re not certain why they love it.  John Bolton’s got a few tentative explanations, I’ve got a few, everyone here has a few of his own—but of one thing, we all agree, there can be no doubt whatsoever:  it’s being done on purpose with malice aforethought.  What you’re seeing in Paris is the behind-the-scenes master plan proceeding right on schedule exactly as has been calculated to unfold since the decision to replace whites with non-whites was first made behind closed doors some time in the early-to-mid 1970s (would be my guess as to a timeframe for the origin of this).  At the same time our poor eyes are looking on this sickening disaster with horror, dread, and foreboding and wondering what it portends for all of our futures and our kids’ futures, other pairs of eyes than ours—the beady pig eyes of the grasping, self-regarding, slimy French élites—are peering at the same scenes, the same photos, the same raging inferno, the same shocking newspaper articles, with huge satisfation and scarcely-containable glee.

Posted by Andrew on November 02, 2005, 02:08 AM | #

By now we realize this is only a Hollywood production and not real, it does not exist, a figment of our Imagination, dam Mossad publications confusing our minds. We are continuously told Islam is a religion of peace. No, it is all a set up, CIA did it?
NO, or maybe “Cultural Diversity” was not adhered to, It’s all about poverty, Poor little Euro Mossie”s,un-loved and un-wanted. No. Or maybe someone lied, and a big porky pie at that. Pious Islam at work! and these are the Moderates.
Roll on Mecca roll on.Some fire and Brimstone required,blame the Aliens, they did it.ha

Posted by Guessedworker on November 02, 2005, 11:26 AM | #

Both the BBC and the BNP report troubles beyond Clichy-sous-Bois.

The list is:-

: Police resorted to using rubber bullets on Tuesday evening on gangs of missile throwing rioters. 15 cars set ablaze. Molotov cocktails thrown at a municipal buildings including a fire station and annex to the town hall.

: Four people were arrested for throwing missiles at police. Firefighters called out to deal with 14 burning cars and a carpet store on Tuesday.

: Monday saw a fifth night of violence with “scores” of cars set ablaze.

: Mobile gangs were setting fires to waste bins and vehicles.

: Sporadic attacks by mobile gangs on police, some vehicles set ablaze.

: The mayor of Sevran said youths set two rooms of a primary school on fire, and attacked several cars. Police said three officers were slightly injured in attacks on Monday.

: Throughout Tuesday mobile gangs were said to be setting fires to waste bins and vehicles.

: Sporadic attacks by mobile gangs on police.

in north eastern France saw a night of violence, apparently unrelated to the Paris incidents but apparently in response to police arrests of a member of a drugs gang youths set fire to an empty building and trash cans and stoned fire trucks in several nights of unrest in Sedan, northeastern France, authorities there said Tuesday.

It’s terrible for the innocent people who are caught up in this.  But in the wider scheme of things, it goes down as “happy trouble” in my book.  May a few more (real) Frenchmen and women think hard on it and arrive at a healthy conclusion.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 02, 2005, 11:44 AM | #

They have to be sent home and the racial/ethno-cultural status quo ante restored.

Sorry, it’s a harsh notion, and doing it humanely won’t be easy to organize but it’s doable—and doable humanely, too—and there is no other solution.

Posted by Steve Edwards on November 02, 2005, 01:06 PM | #

I am enjoying these riots, I must say, for a variety of reasons that I don’t need to mention!

Posted by john rackell on November 02, 2005, 02:07 PM | #

But in the wider scheme of things, it goes down as “happy trouble” in my book.  May a few more (real) Frenchmen and women think hard on it and arrive at a healthy conclusion.

But the opposite conclusions could still be drawn.

“The law must be firmly applied and in a spirit of dialogue and respect,” government spokesman Jean-Francois Cope quoted Chirac as telling the weekly cabinet meeting.

“The absence of dialogue and escalation of disrespect would lead to a dangerous situation. There cannot be ‘no-go’ areas in the republic,” Cope told reporters.

translation:

“let’s just let the immigrants police themselves. Anyway, technically it’s not a ‘no-go’ area just because no sane white Frenchman would ever want to go there   voluntarily.”

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/international/international-france-riots.html

Posted by friedrich braun on November 02, 2005, 02:16 PM | #

What’s happening in France is not simply a nation-wide riot, it’s a race-based revolution.

Posted by Guest on November 02, 2005, 07:52 PM | #

We had Christians rioting in Toledo last month and acting up in New Orleans when Katrina came by the area. We’ve had Christians rioting in Los Angeles in 1992 and 1965 in Los Angeles, and in Liberty City Miami Florida in 1980.

Hindus have rioted in India slaying schoolgirls and on it goes.

I do not think it is Islam or Christianity nor Hinduism that is the problem here but rather colored hordes introduced into White nations by changing of immigration laws.
See Kevin MacDonald’s The Culture of Critique

Posted by LiberalLarry on November 03, 2005, 04:11 AM | #

Draw a parallel in the rapidly expanded immigration in Paris, with the rapidly advancing immigration in the U.S.

Yes, Mexican and Muslim are completely different cultures, but when an area is swamped in immigration, differences of culture can be chaotic. It’s very clear that Paris will be scarred by this, and mistakes should be learned from.

So what does this have to do with U.S. and immigration? I’d say typical immigrant assimilation usually takes 2 or 3 generations, but if there are enough of a certain group in an area, they will usually practice their old culture, speak their old language, and not assimilate. Native citizens will usually grow suspicious (as they did in France), and this can cause a schism in national identity.

Will L.A. follow in France’s footsteps in 20 years? Certainly they are different cultures, but will these relation worsen?

Posted by seelow heights on November 03, 2005, 09:29 AM | #

Apparently the Hungarian-Greek-Jew Interior Minister Sarkozy is something of a “hardass”-by French standards. But I think after six nights of rioting it is time to use live ammunition. The best action would be to send in the Foreign Legion Parachute Regiment- the guys who won the Battle of Algiers(the politicians lost the war).
http://pubphilosopher.blogs.com/pub_philosopher/2005/11/sarkozy_for_pre.html

My French neighbour rates Nicolas Sarkozy highly and hopes that he will be the next President of France.  I’m beginning to see why.  Four nights of rioting in a suburb of Paris have been followed by the usual demands for government spending to alleviate the problems of the affected area and by complaints about heavy handed police action.  Sarkozy has ignored all this background noise and stuck to his message.  He intends to break the power of the criminal gangs in the Paris suburbs and he will not allow the unfortunate deaths of two youths to be used by his opponents to divert him from this task.  Even the weeping relatives have been wheeled out to confront him but Sarkozy appears unmoved.

In the past,  politicians would have gone to the mosque and genuflected before self-appointed community leaders,  apologised to the relatives,  acknowledged that it was all the fault of the racist state apparatus and promised massive state spending to compensate.  The police would then have been ordered out of the area,  allowing the cash for the new regeneration schemes to be diverted into the pockets of the gangs who caused the trouble in the first place.

Only this time,  that ain’t the way it’s going to be.  Sarkozy has decided that the estates don’t belong to the gangs and that even the poor have a right to security.  A novel idea maybe,  but one that he is backing up by sending in special units to “identify gang leaders, traffickers and big shots.”  He is not going to stop targeting the criminals,  just because they have orchestrated some riots.

Even members of his own party have been taken aback by his stance.  Azouz Begag, the Minister for Promotion of Equal Opportunities,  said:

  You should not tell these youths you’re going to get stuck into them and send in the police. You should try to appease them.

Well you see,  M Begag,  that is just what every politician has done for the past thirty years.  That is why the gangs now control the estates like little dictatorships and the people that you are supposed to represent live in fear.  The only way to break the power of criminal gangs is to confront them and that will mean taking some tough decisions.

Former Socialist prime minister Laurent Fabius whined:

  When he announces that he’s going to visit such and such a commune or suburb every week, that’s not how we resolve those problems.

No,  M Fabius,  that’s not how you tried to resolve such problems.  That is why you are now history and Nicholas Sarkozy has the backing of a majority of the French people.  Roll on 2007.

UPDATE:  Paddy Power has odds of 2-1 on Sarkozy to be the next French President.  Fabius is at 8-1.

UPDATE 2:  Eursoc has a post on how Sarkozy’s approach has upset the French establishment.

01 November 2005 |

Posted by seelow heights on November 03, 2005, 09:38 AM | #

From the No Pasaran blog:
http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/

Rioters are now shooting at riot cops with real bullets. The French preSS is mystified by this development, real bullets having been banned by Ripoublika Franska decree many moons ago. The French preSS is also mystified that rioting exists at all, happiness and joyful brotherhood having been declared by decree (and redeclared endlessly) to be the general condition of the people. The latest theory by the French preSS on the causes of this violence has something to do with the needless provoking, insulting, and humiliating of a certain portion of the population that would otherwise have been perfectly happy and law abiding.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 03, 2005, 10:30 AM | #

An excellent, really outstanding pair of posts, Seelow!  Thank for posting those.

The only solution (all you clueless women voters and panty-waist men, avert your eyes) is:  Let no more in and humanely but firmly send the ones already here back.

Posted by Guessedworker on November 03, 2005, 11:01 AM | #

Larry,

Europe is the ancient homeland of your and my people.  These aliens have NO business living there.  They were not asked to come by the people - their presence has never been legitimised by public consent.  Indeed, the establishment always knew it could not seek public consent since it would never be forthcoming.

Accordingly, the people have not been permitted to think in their own interest but, on the contrary, are endlessly instructed that they have no interest beyond that of race-blind liberalism and economism.

This cannot go on unopposed until we lose our cities, then our towns and then our own homes.  The aliens must be encouraged to return from whence they came (white equality junkies can join them).  We will adjust to their absence economically through the action of the free market and the application of our ingenuity.

Posted by Svigor on November 03, 2005, 11:36 AM | #

Amen.  Partition and Balkanization, negotiation and compromise, are acceptable for America for a number of reasons, but the buck stops in Europe.  They all go home, every single one, all of them, to a man, woman, and child.  No excuses and no exceptions, that’s my position.

Posted by Phil on November 03, 2005, 04:48 PM | #

Sarkozy is not the answer, Le Pen is. Sarkozy favours affirmative action for the immigrants. He is part of the problem not the solution.

Front National is the answer. The French need to understand this. Voting for Sarkozy will only deal with the real problem in superficial terms. Voting for Le Pen will not only save all of France but perhaps Europe too.

Posted by friedrich braun on November 03, 2005, 06:14 PM | #

Apparently the Hungarian-Greek-Jew Interior Minister Sarkozy is something of a “hardass”-by French standards.

And his wife is Russian and Spanish; both have expressed pride at having ZERO french blood. Republican France is a universalist and cosmopolitan nightmare.

Posted by Phil on November 03, 2005, 06:29 PM | #

Friedrich,

Yes Sarkozy provides comfort to the feeble spirited who are scared of confrontation (and also scared of crime). And he comforts them that the immigrant problem can be managed.

Le Pen’s answer is more radical. But his is the only logical answer. “Assimilation” is a dead end. Great nations do not need to “assimiliate” anyone.

Posted by Smart Boy on November 04, 2005, 09:43 AM | #

How is the French/Muslim conflict a genetic one, rather than cultural? For example, you don’t see Muslims in the US riot like that.

Posted by Kubilai on November 04, 2005, 09:54 AM | #

How is the French/Muslim conflict a genetic one, rather than cultural? For example, you don’t see Muslims in the US riot like that.

Not yet, is more appropriate.  We cannot ignore Holland, England, Sweden, and now France, can we?  How are all these very different countries related? 

Answer:  All have had and/or having civil unrest at the hands of the Muslim horde. 

Whether genetic or not is immaterial.  The peoples are vastly different and should not be in proximity to each other within the same geographic boundaries.

Posted by Kubilai on November 04, 2005, 10:00 AM | #

How could I forget Denmark on this list?  Another state with Muslim problems.

Poor Muslies, always oppressed and forced to live in “uncivilized” conditions in the western countries.  They aren’t used to that, are they??

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 04, 2005, 10:15 AM | #

Makes no difference, Smart Boy.  If you’re rioting and are not of the French race you have no business being in France.  Only Frenchmen have the right to riot in France.  As for genetics, as you refer to it, there is indeed a genetic issue at stake:  the French nation is not supposed to turn itself genetically, in whole or in significant part, into Moroccans, Sub Saharans, Vietnamese, or any other alien race, but is supposed to remain populated by Frenchmen.  Now it’s clear from your comment that you would question both assertions I just made.  My next assertion, therefore, is that you ought to be deported to Johannesburg permanently—which would have the double benefit of “concentrating your mind wonderfully” (as Dr. Johnson referred to in a different context) and serving justice.  If you can’t get your head screwed on frontwards as regards race-replacement get the hell out and into some country where the race predominates which you think should predominate in France or here or elsewhere in whitedom.  If you’re able to think, and if you have a shred of honesty about you, that’s a prospect that should concentrate your mind—sort of, “Put your money where your mouth is.”  After about fifteen years in Johannesburg everything about “genetics and culture,” “nature and nurture,” will have fallen into place in your understanding and you’ll no longer need to ask dumb questions online.  Or maybe not—there are a few high-profile white women in the New, Improved South Africa who’ve been brutally gang-raped who still don’t get it—one of ‘em’s even written a book about it or something, in which she finds a way to blame it on whites or at least not to blame it on its cause ...  Talk is cheap, Smart Boy—let’s see you put your money where your mouth is by moving permanently to one of these places you want to transform France or this country into.  In just world, if you kept yapping like that you’d lose your right to remain here.

Posted by Smart Boy on November 04, 2005, 08:40 PM | #

>> Makes no difference, Smart Boy.  If you’re rioting and are not of the French race you have no business being in France.

What about the British? Are they allowed to riot?

>>the French nation is not supposed to turn itself genetically, in whole or in significant part, into Moroccans, Sub Saharans, Vietnamese, or any other alien race

What about the British?

>> Or maybe not—there are a few high-profile white women in the New, Improved South Africa who’ve been brutally gang-raped who still don’t get it

Sounds like a touchy guy, doesn’t he?

>> In just world, if you kept yapping like that you’d lose your right to remain here.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 04, 2005, 09:00 PM | #

“What about the British? Are they allowed to riot?”  (—Smart Boy)

Damn right, especially if it’s a riot against the forced race-replacement you and your friends are trying to ram down their throats.  About time they had a few good white riots around the Mother Country—get the place back on track!

” ‘the French nation is not supposed to turn itself genetically, in whole or in significant part, into Moroccans, Sub Saharans, Vietnamese, or any other alien race.’  What about the British?”

Them either.  And? ...  Your point is? ...

“Sounds like a touchy guy, doesn’t he?”

Yeah, all touchy-feely, that’s me.  You’ve got me all figured out!

” ‘In a just world, if you kept yapping like that you’d lose your right to remain here.’

“

Yeah, we’ll see in the end who’ll enforce it, Smart Boy—your New-and-Improved Mark-II Version of the “White” Race (5% white and 80% God knows what)? —or the Real-Deal, Old-Tried-and-True Version ... (if I were you I wouldn’t exactly get my hopes up ... Hey just some friendly advice ...)

Posted by Smart Boy on November 04, 2005, 11:34 PM | #

My point was about ethnic groups, not races. I conjectured that ethnic differences between muslims and Europeans were cultural, not genetic. It doesn’t follow from this that the differences should be tolerated. (They shouldn’t.)

Also, I said nothing about races, unless you think there is a ‘muslim race’ as distinct from ‘whites’.

Your response displays more hyper-sensitivity and dogmatism. You’re obviously not interested in understanding what I have to say, so why bother getting offended over it?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 05, 2005, 03:56 AM | #

“why bother getting offended?”

You’re not capable of offending me, Smart Boy.

Posted by liberllarry on November 05, 2005, 06:11 AM | #

The reason why Muslims are not rioting in America is because of the spread. They are not concentrated or segregated in certain areas like the rioting Muslims of France.

Focusing a large amount of immigrants in one area is a BAD idea - that is one of the major lessons I can see from these riots. They maintain their old culture, despite being in a completely different land. It is like a bunch of Californian surfers moving into the heart of Tehran and trying to continue their previous way of life. No waves to surf in Tehran though. And trust me - they’ll feel like outsiders, and they’ll be treated like outsiders (Obviously). The same sentiments are expressed by the Muslim immigrants of France.

How about ethnic groups moving into the states? Italian immigrants would form little Italy in cities in the north-east and Chicago, and have trouble blending into the culture. The result? Italian mafia.

While the mafia was not 100 percent due to immigration, you can see several other ethnic groups who move into the U.S. and ‘work together’ to raise their own power base, in whatever form (it depends on the culture). Chinese mafias, Russian, and Mexican mafias: They’re all common in concentrations.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 05, 2005, 10:36 AM | #

“And trust me - they’ll feel like outsiders,”  (—Liberal Larry)

OK, we’ll trust you, Larry—on that, and on so much else you write ... You’ve earned it ... Yeah ... Right ... Sure ... We’ll trust every word you say ... Any day now ... Comin’ right up! ... What a fount of wisdom! ... a veritable beacon of light! ... You dazzle everyone here with your brilliance! ... What a blessing it is to have you comment here, Larry! ... One explanation from you and everything’s suddenly crystal-clear! ... Without you we’d all be groping in darkness! ... Thank you so much, you illuminator of the world! ...

Posted by Smart Boy on November 05, 2005, 12:42 PM | #

>> You’re not capable of offending me

Good boy.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 05, 2005, 01:17 PM | #

“You’re not capable of offending me”

You’re capable of boring me, though—in spades.  You’re a crashing bore.  Now go bore someone else please.