Hitler as a political Britney Spears

Whereas one commentator in my last thread had Hitler as the progenitor of all European racial pride, Joachim Fest shows him as a man more gifted at borrowing other peoples ideas than himself coming up with any of his own. Fest traces the origins of Nordic/Aryan racial ideology and also the idea of National Socialism to a handful of thinkers, whose ideas were already in circulation at the beginning of the 1910s. Even the combination of these various elements was already present in the early discussions of the DAP, the first incarnation of what later became the NSDAP. According to this author, Hitler’s main contribution was his gift for public speaking and propaganda, and his willingness to erect a personality cult in his own name, rather than any specific political idea.

In this passage, Fest describes how Hitler became the Führer, with some help from poet-occultist Dietrich Eckhart. The following indicates that Hitler had some marketing specialists behind him, like the kind of producers and image-managers that marketed Madonna and Britney Spears to the world.

Eckhart had already gotten to know Hitler early on, and during the Kapp-Coup in March 1920 both travelled to Berlin by order of some national backers, to observe the situation there. As a well-read man and an expert with people, who had a broad knowledge and likewise broad prejudices, he had a great influence on the provincial and awkward Hitler. He was, thanks to his uncomplicated manner, the first person with a middle-class educational background who Hitler could stand to be around, without calling to the fore his deep-lying complexes. He loaned and recommended him books, trained him in good manners, corrected his German and opened many doors for him: for a time they were an inseparable pair on the Münchener social scene. Already in 1919 Eckhart had prophecied, in a skillfully and self-consciously antiquated poem, the arising of a national Saviour: “a lad”, as he said in a different place, “who can hear a machine-gun. The herd has to be scared shitless. I can’t use an officer, the people have no respect for them anymore. Best of all would be a worker, who has his mouth on the right side of his head…. He doesn’t need to have much intelligence, politics is the stupidest business in the world.” One who always would have a “hefty answer” for the Reds, would be better to him than “a dozen learned Professors, who sit trembling on the wet pants-bottoms of facts.” And finally he demanded: “It has to be a bachelor! Then we will get the women.” Not without some amazement, he considered Hitler the embodiment of this model and celebrated him already in August 1921 in an article in the Völkische Beobachter for the first time as “the Leader” (Führer)...

Becoming a celebrity has alot to do with knowing how to dress and present oneself. Hitler started off not knowing how to dress; when first entering military service he appeared in:

....an old Cutaway, yellow leather shoes, with a backpack on his back, so that the speechless Brigade Leader refused to introduce himself to him.

Later on, in a salon in München, he still couldn’t dress:

Hanfstaengl remembered that Hitler wore his blue suit with a purple shirt, a brown vest, and a bright red tie. The bulge at his hip revealed his automatic weapon.

But later on, he learned how to dress himself to play his part, and characteristically overdid it. The German historian Karl Alexander v. Müller, who later joined the NSDAP, remembered him thus:

“....through the open door one saw how he greeted the hostess with an obsequious politeness, laying aside his riding crop, Velour hat and Trenchcoat, finally unhooking a belt with a revolver and placing it likewise on the coat hook. It looked strange and reminded one of Karl May.

Something strangely awkward and bumbling still adhered to him, and one had the unpleasant feeling that he felt it and resented that you noticed it.”

Hitler’s self-consciousness and attempts at artistic self-portrayal call to mind some lines from the Britney Spear’s song,

What U See (Is What You Get)

I know you watch me when I’m dancin’
When I party with me friends
I can feel your eyes on my back, baby
I can’t have no chains around me, baby can’t you see
I could be anything you dream of, but I gotta feel free

Perhaps the wild-west Proletariat-cum-Fanatical-Traditionalist-Foreigner merely wanted to pose this question to the German masses, left hurting from Versailles, as Britney said in

I’m A Slave 4 U

Baby, don’t you wanna dance up on me?
To another time and place
Oh baby, don’t you wanna dance up on me?
Leaving behind my name and age

Yes, leave behind his name and age, and just dance up on him, to another time and place. That seems to have been the primary use of this man.

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Posted by Guessedworker on August 26, 2007, 01:09 PM | #

Perhaps a little heavy on the debunk, PF. But we get the message.

I think the point is that real people in the politics of the 1930s didn’t ordinarily look like this:-

... but sort of human, like this:-

Look at the difference between them here:-

In a word, it is artifice. We can suppose that we might have known who Neville Chamberlain was. But we could never have known AH. The longed-for Führer and sacred hope of the deutsche Volk could never be a real man.

Posted by PF on August 26, 2007, 02:17 PM | #

GW,

Point taken. I’ll reign in the anti-Britler stuff.

But I thought the point needed to be made, at least I wanted
to learn about it, and I like stirring up trouble.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 26, 2007, 02:38 PM | #

There’s something not quite right in judging by ordinary everyday criteria feelings and expressions of legitimate outrage, legitimate outrage at grave, even epoch-making injustice inflicted, inflicted moreover on an entire people. A certain understandable difference will naturally show in the faces, for example, of Chamberlain representing the victor and Hitler representing the defeated and outrageously wronged. Is it fair to put photos up and, noting the miens aren’t comparable, ignore that there are perhaps reasons why, understandable reasons?

Posted by Bret Ludwig on August 26, 2007, 05:44 PM | #

The most famous male and female figures of the 20th Century are Adolf Hitler and Marilyn Monroe respectively.

Neither was wholly a creation of his or her own making, as none of us are. And each spawned a long downward tree of imitators, or at least “influencees”.

Studying Monroe will give a good feel for what one should look for in studying the branches of Hitler’s influence too.

Britney Spears is the now one-generation-back (she hasn’t done any “new” “work” since she had her first child, which was some time ago) descendant of MM-derived pop singers which includes Nancy Sinatra, Deborah Harry and Madonna. Dolly Parton was as much an iMMitator as Harry, in a different marketing line-so called “country” music (which is the same I-IV-V changes in 4/4 time, twelve bars, as so called “rock and roll” or “rhythm and blues”, all three invented by Jews).

Monroe herself got large chunks of the MM persona from stripper Lili St. Cyr and the earlier actress Jean Harlow (for whom Monroe-ne’ Norma Jeane Mortensen,geboren 1926-was most certainly not named , because she appeared as a bit part actress in 1927 and was not famous until 1930).

So Eckhart can be called Hitler’s Harlow then.

Posted by 2R on August 26, 2007, 07:54 PM | #

Why does this site even discuss Hitler? Is it so that we learn that anything Hitler-like is a wrong way street for the goals we’re trying to accomplish? If so, I think everyone at this site realizes this. Why even bring Hitler up?

Is it to publicly show that we’re not “Nazis?” This may not be a bad idea.

Is there anything to learn from Hitler or the National Socialist era?

If Hitler was controlled by these higher forces, why didn’t they do something when Hitler was sleeping on D-Day? This may have been a good time to put the puppet away and make a decision?

Since Britney was a creation of Jewish entertainment, was Hitler a creation of the same forces. I’m sure many of you have heard the old tale about the Rothschild’s funding Hitler in order to start the war for the purpose of destroying Germany and creating Israel?

Posted by Guessedworker on August 26, 2007, 07:58 PM | #

All MR contributors are free to post opinion as they please, 2R. The readers are the judges of it. Nobody else.

Posted by Englander on August 27, 2007, 07:55 AM | #

I think the point is that real people in the politics of the 1930s didn’t ordinarily look like this:-

I really can’t see what distinction you’re trying to make, GW. They both clearly look like different men, but I don’t see a huge gap between them. They both look ordinary to me, although of course Hitler is far more familiar to me than Chamberlain.

Posted by stari_momak on August 27, 2007, 11:44 AM | #

Heck, I’ve been coming here long enough to remember one Geoff Beck getting booted for posting pictures of Hitler. Now its all-Adolph, all the time. I’ve got to say, the loss of that Australian libertarian guy, and seeming loss of Karl Magnus (bear’s lair) has sent this blog in a not altogether healthy direction. Bit too esoteric, bit too freaked out about the Chosen.

And what ever happened to the soft-porn poster?

Posted by Amalek on August 28, 2007, 12:49 PM | #

I agree with stari_momak.

All that needs to be said about Adolf Hitler, Austrian carpetbagger in a synthetic “German” state, is that his failure erected the biggest roadblock preventing the white race from getting back to its roots that has ever been put up. For 60 years Hitler’s legacy and memory has been the Judaeo-globalists’ best asset.

Only now there are signs that they have overplayed their hand. For instance, next week this tome hits the shelves:

http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/0374177724

Let’s watch the headlines and stay ahead of what’s happening NOW, folks.

Posted by a Finn on August 28, 2007, 01:40 PM | #

To stari_momak

Well, in all my posts there have been one answer which contained link to a porn site, and it is the only one in this blog I know of. I want to emphasize it was not soft porn site. The first soft porn page was an entry page to hard core porn pages, after a fee is paid. R.E. Prindle made an erroneous statement, that porno production is legal only near Hollywood. I corrected that it is legal almost everywhere in Europe. He had hard time believing it, although he at the same time didn’t doubt me. So I posted company/trademark names, which can be Googled, if further information is needed, and one site about a porn actor, who is small public figure in Finland, because often seeing is believing. If that is not Ok with you, then cry me a river.

Finnish tabloid daily newspapers and some wide spectrum weekly magazines have often more revealing pictures in them than the one in the page, which I linked.

This blog already has one grotesque feature, national bolshevism, it doesn’t need another one about Hitler distortion, towards good or bad. I hope Hitler is in the future rare in the main posts, and when it is treated, it is done with the same neutrality than Kevin MacDonald treats his subjects. Lessons can be learned from WWII situation, but Hitler and national SOCIALISM in themselves are irrelevant to today’s nationalists and politics.

Jews as a subject is unavoidable, but the solution in general is developing independent and efficient systems to ourselves. Many posters have commendably developed these ideas in main posts and in comments. More is needed, and also gradual transition from theories to practice.

Posted by calvin on August 28, 2007, 02:01 PM | #

If it wasn’t for Hitler we’d all be talking Russian and queuing to buy cabbage. People assume that because Franco’s demise opened the door to democracy, that if Franco had never existed Spain would have become a democracy decades before it did. In fact, without Franco Spain would have been owned by Joseph Stalin, as would Italy have been without Mussolini. The fascist dictatorships were European civilisation on a war footing.

Posted by stari_momak on August 28, 2007, 03:19 PM | #

If it wasn’t for Hitler I wouldn’t be surrounded by Somalis, Jamaicans, Arabs, Pakistanis, and god knows what else as I take the Piccadily Line in from Finsbury Park. One P. Brimelow has it right ... as does Amalek. Hitler was by far the worse thing that has ever happened to Europe in the last thousand years. There would be no anti-Racist claptrap without him.

As to the softporn, I was being nostalgic for the myriad of soft porn photos we used to get here in the heated discussions of beauty of Europeans vs. say Indian women. Man, those were the days.

Posted by calvin on August 28, 2007, 04:20 PM | #

Hitler was programmed for destruction because he allowed Germany to slip the noose of the international bankers and developed the world’s most dynamic economy whilst maintaining fiscal autonomy. This is essentially the same international banking cartel that are flooding the West with immigrants in their quest to create a global plantation; sounds like you are blaming the fire brigade instead of the arsonists. Contrary to public perception, there was no great public desire for war against Germany in 1939 and the vested financial interests had to work long and hard (utilizing loathsome turncoat warmongers like Churchill) to overcome substantial peace lobbies in Britain and America.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 28, 2007, 06:35 PM | #

Finn, Stari Momak was talking about J Richards, not anything you posted. But I liked your answer to him anyway: “If you don’t like it you can cry me a river!” Quite good!

As for Stari’s comments, Calvin’s two replies have the edge over them. Stari writes as if nothing else than Hitler is race-replacing us right now. Just him. No one else, no other forces. Him alone.

Gee, but ... I kinda think Stari may ... uhhhhh ... be leaving something out??? ... Hey just a hunch ....

Posted by a Finn on August 29, 2007, 01:37 AM | #

Off-topic:

Congratulations European Americans, America is changing for the better largely because of your efforts and abilities:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57313

Useful sites, although it would be important to resist also “legal” immigration:

http://www.wehirealiens.com/

http://www.smalltowndefenders.com/public/

Posted by calvin on August 29, 2007, 03:29 AM | #

Stari

This is a quotation from a diary recording the Bolshevik suppression of the Kronstadt rising,

“For 3 days Latvians, Bashkirians, Hungarians, Tartars, Russians, Jews and an international rabble crazed by alcohol and the smell of blood raped and killed without restraint.”

Seems like Russia was “celebrating diversity” long before it became fashionable in the democracies.

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