Göring, Goebbels, Hitler, ... Thilo Sarrazin?

The Turks are conquering Germany exactly as the Kosovars conquered Kosovo: through a higher birth rate.  I would like it, if it were Eastern European Jews with a 15% higher IQ than the native Germans.—Thilo Sarrazin, SPD politician and board member of the German Central Bank, from an interview in current issue of Lettre International

I have the impression that with his ideas, Sarrazin is paying his respects to Göring, Goebbels, and Hitler.—Stephan Kramer, General Secretary of the Council of German Jews

Surely, Herr Kramer has also spotted the subtle variation on the Kühnen-Gruß:

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Posted by Dasein on Monday, October 12, 2009 at 02:55 PM in HumourImmigrationThat Question Again
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Posted by Dasein on October 12, 2009, 03:42 PM | #

This magazine must be a stealth Nazi publication.  A variation on the Roman salute, from the current issue:

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http://www.lettre.de/aktuell.html

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Posted by Dasein on October 12, 2009, 03:50 PM | #

Predictably, the Telegraph piles on:

‘A top official at the German Bundesbank is under police investigation after giving vent to a wild outburst against Berlin’s Muslim population, resorting to language reminiscent of Nazi race theory.’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/6259427/Bundesbank-official-under-police-investigation-after-blasting-Turks-for-conquering-Germany.html

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Posted by Captainchaos on October 12, 2009, 03:59 PM | #

Is Steve Sailer in effect an anti-White genocidalist?  Should this be considered the Final Betrayal by him?

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/091011_asians.htm

But what about Mitch Daniels, the Republican governor of Indiana and a potential 2012 Presidential candidate? Is the blue-eyed Daniels an Asian? After all, he is of Syrian Christian descent, and Syria is in Asia.

Well, of course not! Everybody knows that West Asians aren’t whom we are talking about when we talk about “Asians”.

Then, how about Bobby Jindal, the Republican governor of Louisiana? He is of Asian Indian descent. Does that make him an “Asian” Asian?

Funny you should ask. See, Jindal was officially Caucasian for the first decade of his life. But then the Reagan Administration changed him to an Asian. So now he’s an Asian.

To begin at the beginning: originally, the concoction of the overall “Asian” category was another folly of the Nixon Administration. Rather than simply continuing to tabulate separately each of the mutually antagonistic East Asian nationalities, with their lurid histories of aggression and atrocity against each other, Nixon’s Office of Management and Budget lumped them together into the single racial category of “Oriental Americans”, making them a legally-protected class able to sue for disparate impact.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 12, 2009, 04:01 PM | #

The Jew Kramer quoted in the log entry must see the ultimately genocidal portent of current immigration policy and of failure to so anything to humanely, generously induce Turks and other non-Germans already in Germany to go home to their countries of origin.  He must see it because it’s obvious.  So, he sees it.  We can take that with certitude as a given.  If he then opposes all reasonable efforts to do something about it he is in effect fighting to genocide the German people and extinguish the German race from the Earth.  That being the case, all white people must act accordingly by ignoring the Jews when they protest against racial self-defense by whites, and in reprisal they must drop all support they may have had for Israel and adopt the position of explicitly opposing Israel’s continued existence on grounds it is illegal, immoral, unjust toward the Palestinians, a fascist, racist apartheid state, or what-have-you (merely the same sort of thing the Jews are forever accusing us of being).  I used to separate Israel and diaspora Jewry in my mind but I’ve come to see that’s a badly mistaken approach:  they function as one and the same, parts of the same entity, so it’s appropriate to oppose our diaspora-Jewish tormentors and exterminators in part by opposing the country they hold most dear, Israel, in retaliation for the genocidal harm diaspora Jews inflict on us.  To do otherwise, in fact, is insanity.  Part of self-defense against the depredations of diaspora Jewry against ourselves and all we hold dear should be, at a minimum, the withholding of any and all support we might previously have shown for the continued existence of the state of Israel.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 12, 2009, 04:02 PM | #

Is the guy in the photo Sarrazin or Kramer?

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Posted by Dasein on October 12, 2009, 04:06 PM | #

Is Steve Sailer in effect an anti-White genocidalist?  Should this be considered the Final Betrayal by him?

He had me at ‘citizenism’.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 12, 2009, 04:08 PM | #

What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.  If our nations must go (and according to the Jews, they must), so must Israel.  We must vanish?  Then Israel must vanish along with us.  Our people must change into some other race?  Then the world’s Jews must change into some other race too.

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Posted by Dasein on October 12, 2009, 04:08 PM | #

That’s Sarrazin.

Kramer’s a skinhead:

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 12, 2009, 04:08 PM | #

The Jews aren’t the only ones who can play that game.  Two can play.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 12, 2009, 04:09 PM | #

In a sane world the Jew Kramer would be instantly kicked out of Germany.

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Posted by Dasein on October 12, 2009, 04:10 PM | #

You just have to laugh about the situation in Germany, otherwise you’ll go nuts.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 12, 2009, 04:11 PM | #

The instant those worlds left his lips he should have been put on a jet for Tel Aviv, one-way.  The Jews say “Never again”?  I’m German and I too say “Never again.”  There are two “Never agains,” not one, Herr Kramer.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 12, 2009, 04:14 PM | #

Let me go further right now and say:  Jews out of Germany!  You have no business there.  You’ve ruined my country, the U.S.  Don’t you ruin my ancestral country too!

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Posted by Dasein on October 12, 2009, 04:21 PM | #

This is Kramer’s partner in genocide, the Jewess Charlotte Knobloch, president of the German Council of Jews and vice president of the World Jewish Congress.  She was all over the news and talk shows last year with the Bishop Williamson affair.  She and Kramer are as nasty-looking as anything Hollywood can conjure up for Nazi demons.  Somehow it seems that the Nazi propaganda is coming full circle, as James pointed out in the summer with the town hall protests in the US.

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Posted by Captainchaos on October 12, 2009, 04:24 PM | #

More from Breezy:

Bottom line: American whites have long subcontracted out to minority pressure groups the question of how Washington develops the racial categories used to award legal privileges and perquisites.

When whites made up an overwhelming majority of the U.S. population, as they did during the Nixon Administration, that heedlessness may have seemed trivial.

But as whites lose their numeric dominance because Washington’s immigration policy, they will have to learn to play these grubby games, too.

LOL!  Yeah, that’s about as daring, clever and “grubby” as it gets, fighting White genocide by expanding the definition of “White”.  I don’t know what Stevie is so worried about, even the Nazis accepted part-Jews so long they were loyal and phenotypically Aryan.  Perhaps it’s because, unless he were to clean up his act, in the New Dispensation he’d be flipping burgers.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 12, 2009, 04:32 PM | #

If Jews are in Germany to act like Germans, fine.  By all means, stay.  If they’re there to suck more blood and plunge the knife in the German nation’s back, then not fine.  Leave.  Get out.  Get out of Germany and stay out this time.  Get out of Europe, in fact.  No European nation needs or wants that kind of genocidal Jewish behavior for itself.  You Jews want to genocide someone so badly, genocide Israel.  Leave my ancestral nation alone.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 12, 2009, 04:36 PM | #

These Jews are amazing, they think no one sees what they’re doing.  They mistake politeness for blindness.  When the pot boils over, what will they mistake that for?  They’d better think quick, that’s not far off.

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Posted by Dan Dare on October 12, 2009, 04:57 PM | #

Dasein - where can we find the original article, the one in the link above seems to be about a different topic. Although it is incomplete and perhaps the comments appear later in the article.

In the meantime there is lots on the brouhaha on the Spiegel website, not the English site unfortunately.

In an article yesterday, a senior economist at the DIW weighed in calling Sarrazin’s comments a ‘wake-up call’. The article also mentions a poll conducted by Bild am Sonntag in which 51% of those polled agreed that Turks and Arabs were neither interested in or capable of being integrated into German society. 69% of those polled agree that Sarazin was correct in stimulating a debate on immigration.

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Posted by Dasein on October 12, 2009, 05:23 PM | #

Dan, this has the most extensive excerpts from the interview that I’ve come across:

http://auswanderer.blog.de/2009/10/03/thilo-sarrazin-interview-lettre-international-oktober-2009-original-7092428/

It looks like the Lettre website only has a portion of the interview (the magazine is almost 250 pages):

http://www.lettre.de/aktuell/86-Sarrazin.html

I read about it in Junge Freiheit:

http://jungefreiheit.de/Single-News-Display.154+M5f5c7f617bf.0.html

http://jungefreiheit.de/Single-News-Display.154+M5d021e42c8a.0.html

What I found surprising with the poll was the break-down by party. 

Mehrheitlich auf Ablehnung stoßen Sarrazins Thesen bei den Wählern der Grünen (Ja: 24 Prozent; Nein: 64 Prozent), während Anhänger von SPD (Ja: 50 Prozent; Nein: 42 Prozent), CDU/CSU (Ja: 59 Prozent; Nein: 31 Prozent), FDP (Ja: 54 Prozent; Nein: 42 Prozent) und der Linkspartei (Ja: 55 Prozent; Nein: 36 Prozent)

The Green party is largely granola and champagne socialist types, so no surprise there.  What surprised me was the result for die Linken.  During the election here they had an immigrant woman on their web page, with the quote “I support immigration so I am active for die Linke” (something like that).  Die Linke have all the degenerate freaks (at least the ones that the Greens haven’t snatched up) who show up at anti-abortion protests shouting ‘abort against Germany’.  But somehow they also seem to have captured the vote of the down and out, perhaps the beleaguered masses (formerly) of Kreuzberg and Neu-Koelln who are being (were) ethnically cleansed.  Obviously, they have to fear the NPD will ever gain popularity here.

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Posted by anglo23 on October 12, 2009, 06:33 PM | #

Go, Sarrazin,go! Bald kommt übers Land ein Bürgerkrieg. Ganz Europa wird brennen. Wer sind die Brandstifter? Dieu reconnaîtra les siens.

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Posted by Dan Dare on October 12, 2009, 07:52 PM | #

Thanks Dasein. I’m doing a quick translation of the excerpt in the Auswanderer blog entry, perhaps others will find it interesting as well. It sheds a light on present-day Berlin that was a surprise to me and maybe to others as well. I don’t think I have ever heard a prominent German being quite so forthright on such matters.


According to the headline, Sarrazin is being investigated for charges of ‘Volksverhetzung’ (Incitement. Presumably this is under the notorious Art. 130 which has been used to snare prominent neo-Nazis and H-deniers in the past.

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Posted by Selous Scout on October 12, 2009, 09:13 PM | #

I don’t know what to say. Whilst it’s heartening to see a senior German official be so forthright, it’s also not surprising to see him under official police investigation. What next, an internment camp?

With events like this, the whole world is given the impression that Jews are applying “pay-back” (revenge) to Whites, not just in Germany, but in all White countries. I just know this isn’t going to end well.

My hatred for the Jews—it is not blind dumb hatred, but righteous hatred—is growing.

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Posted by jamesUK on October 12, 2009, 09:22 PM | #

The Turks are conquering Germany exactly as the Kosovars conquered Kosovo: through a higher birth rate.  I would like it, if it were Eastern European Jews with a 15% higher IQ than the native Germans.—Thilo Sarrazin, SPD politician and board member of the German Central Bank from an interview in current issue of Lettre International

What an absolute hypocrite!

It was German that created and supported the KLA in Kosovo while Albanians were sponsoring illegal Albanian immigration into Kosovo during the 90’s.

And Germany recognised Kosovo as an independent state.

http://kosovothanksyou.com/

German recognition text.

PRESSE-and INFORMATION Office of the Federal Government press information Nr: 51 approval of Cabinet to the international recognition of Kosovo
MI, 20.02.2008 recommend print preview of the spokesman for the Federal Government, Ulrich Wilhelm, tells page: the Bundeskabinett has today approved the international recognition of the Republic Kosovo and establishing diplomatic relations. A letter from the Federal to the Kosovar President be formal recognition and the Declaration of readiness to establishing diplomatic relations.

At the 17. February 2008 the Parliamentary Assembly in Pristina has adopted a declaration of independence. Then the Council General Affairs and external relations (SBA) has at its meeting on the 18. February 2008 on Council conclusions agreed. They determine among EU Member States will decide on their relations with Kosovo in accordance with their national practices and international law.

In the Council conclusions in particular assurances contained in the Declaration of independence be noted of Serbs and other minorities protection, protection of cultural and religious heritage and international monitoring.

The Council welcomes also the continuation of international properties based on resolution 1244 (1999) of the United Nations Security Council. The EU has emphasised that the Kosovo status settlement concerns a very special case not regarded as a precedent.

The Federal Government is - along with a variety of partners in the EU, but also beyond - believe that a rapid recognition of Republic Kosovo by as many States is suitable to promote lasting stability for the entire region. The multiannual, vain negotiations of the Secretary-General of the United Nations Special Envoy, Martti Ahtisaari and the Kosovo troika showed that a friendly status settlement is impossible.

The countries who have already recognised Kosovo include. France, UK, the USA, Australia and Turkey. Many of other States, including many EU Member, follow these days.

The EU has occasions stated its readiness (inter alia on the European Council of the 14.) December 2007), to meet their responsibility for the stability of the region. You will guide the development of new state legally with their biggest ESDP mission. The community has already taken a decision.

Track the obligations of the Republic Kosovo in the field of human rights, of minority protection and refugee return special attention and strongly support Serbia with the EU pre-accession Germany. The Government intends to sign in particular the already paraphierte stabilisation and association agreement with Serbia and confident soon meet the necessary conditions.

German/western backed genocide against the Serbs

http://www.kosovo.net/news_pogrom.html

German intelligence the BND has/is working with Turkey to create predominantly separatist states promoting Pan –Turkish Ottoman nationalism in the Balkans (Bosnia and Kosovo), Russia’s South (Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan) Central Asia and China (Xinjing).

If Turks and Arabs were to create an independent state in Germany that would be poetic justice.

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Posted by Thunder on October 12, 2009, 10:27 PM | #

Selous Scout

I like your description of your hatred as righteous.  As the late Birdman Bryant said hatred is merited if directed at hateful things.  I may not have the wording correct but the gist is.  Anyhow your description of righteous hatred strikes me as a good defense of such feelings.

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Posted by Frank on October 12, 2009, 11:06 PM | #

CC,

he’s married to a nonwhite and a “citizenist”. His research is useful, but he’s not loyal.

The “norm” in America is so rabidly anti-white that at times men like Sailer appear pro-white. He’s clearly not though.

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Posted by Dan Dare on October 12, 2009, 11:15 PM | #

Here then is a quick (and dirty) translation of the interview excerpt provided by Dasein.

The interview itself carries the title “From the capital city of welfare payments to the metropolis of the elites”, and it is clear from the text that the context of Sarrazin’s comments relates to the relative decline of Berlin from a socio-political perspective even as it returns to political prominence as the seat of the federal government in a united Germany.

I spent around six weeks in Berlin last year and have to say that I came away with a distinctly different impression than the one that Sarrazin portrays in his interview. But then again I spent little time in places like Kreuzberg, supposedly the largest Turkish settlement outside Turkey itself.

The blogger who posted this piece indicates that the excerpt includes about a third of the entire interview, but that it includes all the ‘juicy bits’ that have grabbed media attention.

… do such ideas suffice to keep an agglomeration of this magnitude going? What does it mean for a population or an administration to know that they inhabit a city which is incapable of making a living on its own? It produces feelings of dependency and subservience

The old-style Berlin subsidised economy is in the past. Berlin today is an integral part of the normal (intra-government) system of financial transfer payments and is subsidised from three sources:

?  First: As with all city-states there is a central tax supplement of 30%. The same applies for Hamburg and Bremen.
?  Second: We are part of the financial transfer system between federal states. This distributes tax receipts between the states. Hesse, Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg are contributors, Berlin is the largest recipient.
?  Third: There is the Solidarity Pact for the East, from which Berlin still receives € 1.9 billion annually; this will continue until 2019.

Additionally there the still growing debt obligations. (I think this is the interviewer DD)

I worked hard for seven years to adapt the municipal and state-level financial outlays to realistic levels, and not without some success. The current situation is still more difficult and we will have to wait and see whether the political will that existed in the previous seven years is still present.

You talk in such a meek and well meaning manner like never before. (interviewer?)


The problems are solvable, but whether they will be solved, I don’t know. We have to analytically distinguish the different levels. We’ll have to see what business and the Federal government will contribute – quite apart from whatever the municipal authorities do off their own bat. The city has excessive infrastructure for 4.5 million people, we can tell that from the width of the streets. The city has a productive core of people who work and contribute, even if municipal or federal civil servants. Against that there is a portion of population, around 20%, that is economically inactive and who live off the dole and transfer entitlements. Nationally the figure is only 8 to 10%. This portion must sort itself out.

A great number of Arabs and Turks in our city, whose numbers have increased due to erroneous policies, have no economic function aside from selling fruit and vegetables, and who have little prospect of further development.

The same goes for a section of the German underclass who at one time in the subsidised enterprises span bobbins or operated cigarette machines. Those jobs have disappeared. Economically Berlin has a problem with the size of the present population.

When you say ‘sort itself out’ do you mean that these people will die off and that this underclass will not replace itself? (interviewer again, I think DD)

Niels Bohr said that he had never met anyone who had changed a scientific opinion. Scientific opinions only ever die out. That’s certainly the case. People don’t remember that any more. Berlin will never be saved by the Berliners. We’ve got a terrible school system that isn’t going to get any better.

Berlin is handicapped by two things: the old tradition of the 68ers and the slag factor. From that arises the fact that 40% of all births are in the underclass. Here trends that are affecting the whole country are especially evident. Consequently school standards continually decline instead of rising. In Berlin the problem of the economically non-productive underclass is more pronounced than elsewhere.

Have you given up on the idea that Berlin can develop into a dynamic, growing city under its own steam?

What does the economy of the future look like? In the western industrialised countries the in un- and semi-skilled manufacturing jobs, as well as those service functions that can be performed electronically, whether in the form of call-centres or lower-level technical functions, are increasingly moving offshore. We are converging on a standardised world wage. The cost of a job as a chemical technician is around the same in Shanghai as it is here. Labour and material costs are not that different. So it gets produced where it make s economic sense.

Wage levels are being driven down by the many industrious Asian workers, from Thailand to China. It costs ten dollars to ship a large flat-screen TV from Shanghai to Hamburg. That’s the problem.

In Europe unskilled and semi-skilled job functions are being hard-fit by these developments, and especially for the lesser educated. That’s why wage rates are not rising here and also why unemployment is rising.

The disadvantaged of the uneducated classes – Berlin’s got plenty of those(interviewer?)

There’s just no rational way to integrate these people. There’s an ongoing negative selection taking place. For city policy that’s a significant matter.
I’ve said before that the cognitive ability of our population is diminishing generation by generation. The intellectual ability that Berlin needs must be imported, and will be imported, just as it was in New York in the 1950s when you had Harlem with its hopelessness on the one side, and life in Midtown and Central Park on the other.

Of course it might actually be plausible in the public sector, where political control can be directly exercised, to implement an exemplary integration programme in which those functions which have close contact with the public – the police, the justice system and the financial authorities, for example – provide a certain level of entry to persons of, say, Turkish ancestry. One time we asked a variety of public bodies, including the justice department, the foreigner administration, and various unions, how many people of foreign extraction they employed at lower, intermediate and senior job levels. Nobody could provide the figures, they just weren’t collected.

The Berlin city administration never was very good with figures

We thought it incredible though, you’d think there’d have been some sense of the need for at least a symbolic acknowledgement of the need for integration.

I see it a bit differently. One should avoid mentioning ‘those’ migrants

We have to consider the different migrant groups separately. With the Vietnamese, the parents speak hardly any German, they sell cigarettes or operate a kiosk. Second generation Vietnamese however have far better grades at school and higher rates of graduation than native Germans.

The eastern Europeans, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Poles and Russians tend to be similar. They are keen on integrating, adapt quickly and have above-average academic performance. First generation ethnic Germans from the FSU have big problems, as do the second generation to an extent, but after that things get better because they retain the old German work-ethic. Once the language barrier is behind them, they achieve the same high-school graduation and college acceptance rates as the others. The same goes for the east Asians, Chinese and Indians.


With some of the main groups of Yugoslavs we saw earlier evidence of ‘Turkish’ problems. Strongly underperforming are the Turkish group and the Arabs. Even by the third generation many have little facility with the German language, many don’t finish school, and only a small minority obtain a high-school graduation. Anyone who intends to become integrated has to get through our system. He must learn German.

The children have to graduate from high school. That’s the only way in which integration can take place

Here’s the issue: the lower the socio-economic class, the higher the birthrate. Births among Arabs and Turks are two or three times the level appropriate to their representation in the population. A large number of them are neither interested in nor capable of integration.

There’s only one solution to the problem – stop the inflow and, if anyone wants to get married, they’ll have to leave the country.

There’s a constant stream of brides arriving. Turkish girls here are married off to an Anatolian, and young Turkish men take a bride from some village in Anatolia. It’s even worse with the Arabs.

My suggestion would be to put an end to immigration except for the highly qualified, and an end to transfer entitlements for immigrants. In the USA immigrants receive no such payments, so they have to work, and thus become better integrated. A study has been made of an Arab migrant group of the same clam, some went to Sweden with its social welfare system, and some went to Chicago. After twenty years the Swedish group were still frustrated and unemployed, in contrast to the Chicago group who were integrated.

The pressure of the labour market, and the need to earn your daily bread is to thank for that. But they’re matters that can only be changed at the federal level.


As far as that’s concerned, my prognosis for Berlin is even more somber.
Even in a city in which one can live very well growing and unresolved problems can arise. That’s how it’s going to be in Berlin.

Aren’t both sides responsible for the failure to integrate? Or is it simply that these people don’t want to integrate

Integration proceeds in stages. The first stage is learning German, the second is completing middle school, and the third is making it to the high school, studying there and passing exams. Once through that, one has an equal chance at opportunities in the public sector.

So we have a process. It’s a scandal mothers in the second and third generation still can’t speak German, even if their children can, at least somewhat. It’s a scandal that Turkish youths pay no attention to women teachers because that’s their culture. Integration only comes to those who work at it.

Someone who won’t make the effort is someone I don’t have to acknowledge. I don’t have to acknowledge someone who lives from the State while rejecting that State, someone who doesn’t concern them self with their children’s education while at the same time constantly producing new burqa-maidens.  That’s what 70% of Turks and 90% of the Arabs do in Berlin.

Many of them want nothing to do with integration, they just want to carry on in the same old way. Consequently they develop a mentality which is at the same time both aggressive and atavistic. Turkey is the country where a person can still be prosecuted for speaking about the Armenian genocide.

The first time I was in Turkey was in 1978, on a visit with my then superior Herbert Ehrenberg, Minister of Labour. I was a member of his staff. We drove out of the airport in Ankara, in front my minister with the Turkish minister, I in the following car with a Turkish under-secretary. He spoke German, and asked me how many inhabitants Germany had and what was our birthrate. Then he said that in such-and-such a year Germany’s population would be surpassed by Turkey’s.

And he was proud about it. That’s just the same mentality that Erdogan displayed when giving his speech in the Cologne Arena. The Turks will conquer Germany in exactly the same way that the Kosovars conquered Kosovo, by means of their higher birthrate.  I’d find it more appealing if they were eastern European Jews with their IQ 15% higher than that of the German population.

I don’t have any regard for any population group that refuses to accept their obligation to integrate. Not only that, it’s costing us an enormous amount of money and we’re going to be confronted by plenty of other challenges in the years ahead.

Part II follows

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Posted by Dan Dare on October 12, 2009, 11:17 PM | #

Part II

Is there no political initiative that might facilitate the integration process?

One is always confronted by the wall of political correctness. It’s becoming quite apparent that we have yet to come to terms with the reality that, in relative terms, we have become a quite small nation. In 1939 at the start of World War II Germany had 79 million inhabitants, the USA 135, Russia 150 and England [he means the UK DD] 50 million. The proportions have completely changed. With around a third of our 80 million now of retirement age, we already have, effectively, a relatively small population. We’re more like Holland and Denmark than the USA.

These smaller countries have good grounds for initiating far more radical programmes than we for the forcible integration of foreigners. Nowadays language tests have to be completed by prospective migrants in the local embassy even before leaving the country. They’ve made a late start, but at least they’ve made one.

If the Turks would integrate themselves to same extent as other groups, and achieved the same level of academic performance, then the issue would fade away. The Vietnamese kiosk proprietor will always speak broken German since he was probably 30 when he arrived, and uneducated also. If his children graduate high-school or become a skilled worker then it’s mission accomplished. Turkish lawyers, physicians and engineers would all speak German, and that would encourage the other others. But it’s not happening.

Berliners always imagine that there is a particularly large proportion of foreigners in the city, but that’s incorrect. The foreign populations in Munich, Stuttgart, Cologne or Hamburg are proportionately much larger. However they have relatively fewer Turks and Arabs and relatively more from other population groups. Consequently the migrants are better integrated into the productive process. In contrast, we have a broad underclass that is not integrated into the labour market. Not just that, but Berlin’s problem underclass is expanding rapidly. That makes me very pessimistic.

In Berlin 40% of births occur in the underclass, they are filling the schools and the classrooms, many among them coming from single-parent families. We have to completely overhaul our family policies.  Let’s be done with transfer payments, especially for the underclass. I recall a piece in Die Welt which reported that every Monday morning the city sanitation department removes 20 tonnes of sheep remains from the Tiergarten following Turkish grill-parties over the weekend – this is not satire. Neukölln mayor Buschkowsky relates the case of an Arab woman who had given birth to a sixth child, in the knowledge that this would entitle her to a larger apartment under prevailing welfare rules. We’ve got to get rid of such practices. We need to start out from an understanding that human ability is in part influenced by environment, and in part hereditary. The demographic path we are following is one in which the relative contribution of the cognitively-capable is becoming progressively smaller. That’s no way to create a sustainable society; it can continue for one, two, maybe three generations, but that’s it. This all may sound like saloon-bar rhetoric, but it can be empirically demonstrated …

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Posted by Dan Dare on October 12, 2009, 11:25 PM | #

Sorry, that should have read:

“... the relative decline of Berlin from a socio-economic perspective”

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 13, 2009, 01:15 AM | #

It’s just been reported that over the past 2½ weeks the Czech Republic has humanely

gotten rid of 2,200

...

cleansed itself of 2,200

...

divested itself of 2,200

...

sent packing

...

shown the door to

... persuaded 2,200

pieces of mystery meat

...

Pieces of Mystery Meat

... non-Czech individuals to voluntarily leave the country. 

That’s in 2½ weeks!

http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_101209.htm

Adjusting that rate of success for Germany’s situation, where the population is eight times that of Czechia’s, we get a Mystery Meat attrition rate (perfectly humane, mind you) of about 350,000 a year.  That means applying the same techniques the Czechs have come up with (God bless them!), Germany could

get rid of

humanely persuade all four million Turks to depart in a mere twelve years.  Think of it, a Germany totally ethnically cleansed, purified, brought back to health, in a mere twelve years!  So, if Berlin had started such a program in 1997, today there’d be no more

Mystery Meat problem

immigrant problem in Germany starting right now!  Nightmare over!

Let’s get started, Germans!  (And everyone else in the Eurosphere!)

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Posted by Friedrich Braun on October 13, 2009, 01:18 AM | #

he’s married to a nonwhite and a “citizenist”. His research is useful, but he’s not loyal.

Sailer is married to a non-White? What is she then?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 13, 2009, 01:27 AM | #

Excuse me, not over the past 2½ weeks (I read it too fast) but the past 4 weeks. 

That’s OK — just up the ante a bit and Germany can still

cleanse itself

can still tragically and stupidly deprive itself of much needed vibrancy in a mere twelve years.

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Posted by Friedrich Braun on October 13, 2009, 01:37 AM | #

The entire political establishment will not countenance any deviation from the immigrationist-genocidalist agenda for the European continent. That he’s being investigated for his interview is hilarious. What a demented situation. But I’m so used to this type of madness that I’m no longer shocked at anything. Zundel has now been incarcerated for over 6 years for running a Web site (actually he’s wife did, but no matter) and publishing some pamphlets. Stolz will only be out of jail in a couple of years, if she’s lucky, she made the error of defending her client a bit too aggressively. Mahler will undoubtedly die in prison, etc., etc., etc. Freedom and democracy and justice in Europe. The modern European is only free to do one thing: shut up and consume worthless junk he doesn’t want or need. The only transgressions he’s allowed to make are of the sexual nature. Actually, the E.U. encourages deviant sex. He’s certainly not allowed to have a say regarding his dispossession. I’d laugh and say fuck you but since the state has the power to prosecute you and fine and/or incarcerate you for a long time, I don’t find the situation particularly humorous.

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Posted by Guessedworker on October 13, 2009, 04:00 AM | #

Up the ante a lot, Fred, and it can be done within 5 years.

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Posted by Dasein on October 13, 2009, 04:53 AM | #

Dan, thanks a lot for translating that.  The problems in Berlin certainly get more press attention than those in the other big cities in Germany.  Sarrazin could well be right that the pecentage of non-Germans is higher in other cities.  I know every time I drive to the airport in Hamburg (which is poorly situated in relation to the Autobahn, requiring you to drive through much urban area) I am surprised by how many non-White faces I see on the street.  What seemed to really set off the attention on Berlin were the problems at the Rütli-Schule in the Neukölln district (which, along with Kreuzberg, has been largely ethnically cleansed of Germans).  One of the editors at Taz (a very left-wing paper in Berlin) also caused a bit of a stir when he called for a conference with local parents because he was concerned his kid was going to be sent to a predominantly non-German primary school (presumaby he only wanted to make a place available for another German family’s child to be enriched).  There are links to a recent documentary describing the problems faced by native Germans in this comment:

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/paranoia_at_a_neck_tie_party/P0/#c76929

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Posted by Friedrich Braun on October 13, 2009, 08:30 AM | #

Note that one can be accused in the BRD of neo-Nazism while making a philo-Semitic statement. We’re in the Monty Python territory.

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Posted by Friedrich Braun on October 13, 2009, 08:46 AM | #

Fred, some liberal Jews believe their own hype and also wish for the destruction of Israel:

http://www.masada2000.org/shit-list.html

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 13, 2009, 09:02 AM | #

True, Friedrich, and those are the only Jewish liberals, the rest being Jewish nationalists using the insanity of “liberalism” as a bludgeon to bludgeon Eurochristendom to death with.  Prof. Dershowitz would be a good example of this type of Jew.  And those genuine Jewish liberal nutcases are way too tiny a fraction of Jews to be significant.  Prof. Finkelstein is one of them; Chomsky is sort of another but not entirely.  The Jews waging this so-far extremely effective Jewish-nationalist tribal war against Eurochristendom, a war for our extinction, are JNs posing “liberals” and getting away with the pose because Euros don’t call them on it.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 13, 2009, 09:04 AM | #

What’s giving Israel the biggest problem right now is the fact that women there can vote.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 13, 2009, 09:57 AM | #

The Jews should be told to leave Germany.  They have no business there, certainly not if they’re there to inflict harm on the German nation.  Normal Germans have enough on their hands trying to cope with home-grown German leftist misfits, freaks and mutants without Jewish nationalists posing as “liberals” jumping in on the side of the mutants.  There are two versions of the story of what happened in Germany 1918-45.  The fact that Jews keep us from ever hearing the other version of that story doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.  It exists and is the eye-opener of a lifetime for those who track it down on the internet (until the Jews manage to shut that down too).  And Germans such as myself also say to themselves, “Never again!”  We have a solemn oath of “Never again!” too.  And if Jews are in Germany today to start the same hell-on-Earth cataclysm all over again, then in the German spirit of “Never again!”, not the Jewish spirit, the German spirit, I as a diaspora German call on them to leave Germany, my ancestral nation, and never come back.

Never again!

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Posted by Roger Gray on October 13, 2009, 09:59 AM | #

Friedrich Braun is right. As always, even praising Jews (in this case, in a roundabout fashion) is treated as suspect. It’s the first thing I noticed about these juxtaposed statements, and I assumed it was Dasein’s intention to highlight the philo-Semitism-as-evidence-of-anti-Semitism trope you can expect from Jewish rough justice.

The horror evinced by Kramer at the sentiment, though it flatters Jews, must surely take in a great many. I’m certain it’s an elaborate pretence, but it will play to the rubes. Jews? Tribalistic? Get away! They’re not even amenable to flattery. So, sorry, Fred, but I imagine most influential Jews are quite content that the politeness with which their ideological boilerplate is received is genuine, and they have nothing to fear.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 13, 2009, 10:13 AM | #

Jews are uncivilized.  They haven’t a clue how to behave in civilized societies among civilized people.  That portion of their brain is lacking.  Until they learn, they should be shown the door everyplace where they make themselves an intolerable nuisance to the good people around them.

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Posted by Dasein on October 13, 2009, 12:33 PM | #

Roger, I think these quotes are more evidence that no compromise or accomodation with Jews is possible, or even desirable.  Complete exclusion is only way forward.  Sarrazin is lucky in that he’s received support from 2 of Germany’s high-profile Jews (Ralph Giordano and Henryk Broder) and the Israel-first Bild Zeitung published a poll to show he has public support.  If the Zentralrat goes after a politician and gets some backing from the press, it can be the end of a political career in Germany.  Now, what Giordano, Broder, and the Bild Zeitung should be doing is attacking Kramer.  Calling a White person racist is the equivalent of calling a black person a nigger, and comparing someone to Hitler et al. in Germany is like calling him a child molester.  That he gets away with this sort of thing (he and Knobloch were especially vile last year during the Bishop Williamson affair) shows just how powerful Jewish influence is in Europe, despite their small numbers.  It only takes 1 Jew to start up a Zentralrat and your country suddenly has a Jewish problem.

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Posted by Wandrin on October 13, 2009, 01:06 PM | #

Note that one can be accused in the BRD of neo-Nazism while making a philo-Semitic statement. We’re in the Monty Python territory.

That’s partly what is so clever about his comment though - martyrdom is incredibly powerful and if the nature of his statement makes too many people sympathetic then the enemy risks making him a martyr.

And judging by the opinion polls mentioned above he has a lot of public support.

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Posted by Frank on October 13, 2009, 03:20 PM | #

Friedrich,

I could have sworn he’d married an Asian woman. Fred Reed took a Mexican as everyone knows…

According to this Carole Sailer is white:

Steven Ernest Sailer is a white American male born in December 20, 1958. He attended UCLA in the early 1980s and worked for several years as a businessman in Chicago after college. In the late 1990s, he and his family (white wife Carole Sailer born 02/27/1959 and two sons) moved to his birthtown, Studio City, in the Los Angeles area where he currently resides.

I guess I was mistaken then…

I did search earlier. I found a threat at one of the “steve sailer sucks” blogs where a guy mentioned trying to get a picture of Steve’s wife. So when I saw that, I assumed she must have something to hide - ie. being Asian.

I wonder why the guy wants a picture of Steve’s wife then… so she’ll be targeted?

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Posted by Frank on October 13, 2009, 03:24 PM | #

The main thing I’ve had against Steve the past few years is I’d thought he’d married an Asian woman and had children with her. Someone did tell me that.

Maybe he’s not so bad in his own way, ie. maybe he doesn’t actually want the citizenism he recommends, if he did marry a white woman.

I guess paranoia is common among racialists, but I usually don’t spread false rumors…

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Posted by Frank on October 13, 2009, 03:28 PM | #

It’s not always clear who is truly on America’s side. It’s a given that some of the “conservatives” are serving white racial interests at times even if they publicly deny it.

I should have looked into Steve’s marriage earlier. I don’t want to know anymore about his personal life than simply the race and possibly religion of his spouse and kin etc. Beyond that is of course his business, but race is not a private matter.

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Posted by Dan Dare on October 13, 2009, 03:30 PM | #

Dasein has mentioned already that Sarrazin has received expressions of support from one of Germany’s most prominent Jews, the writer and journalist Ralph Giordano. It should be borne in mind however that Giordano represents that branch of Jewry which views Islamism as an existential threat not just to Israel, but also to the privileged niche that Jews occupy in many western societies. He is a German analogue to Melanie Philips in the UK or Daniel Pipes in the USA and, as noted, Giordano directs his fire towards the ‘forces of political correctness’ and the therapeutic state without any critical mention of Kramer or the Zentral Rat der Juden in Deutschland. As an aside, it’s interesting that they should style themselves ‘The Central Council for Jews in Germany’ and not something like ‘The Central Council for German Jews’.

Regarding Kramer, it appears he has now withdrawn his remarks linking Sarrazin with the Nazis, characterising it as a ‘mistake’ and an ‘exaggeration’, and something that Sarrazin has regrettably ‘been able to turn to his own advantage’. Kramer is now confining the charges to simple ‘racism and pandering to the baser instincts’, comparing his speech and thoughts to ‘those employed by contemporary neo-Nazis’.

What a strange to-do. Anyway here is an edited transcript of an interview that Giordano gave recently to regional broadcaster MDR.

Giordano defends Sarrazin: “He’s got it right”

Writer and journalist Ralph Giordano has vigorously defended the controversial interview with Bundesbank board member Thilo Sarrazin on the theme of the integration of foreigners. In conversation with MDR Info on Tuesday, Giordano expression his conviction that most of Sarrazin’s critics are unfamiliar with the content of his extensive interview.

With regard to Sarrazin’s thesis Giordano thinks “Sarrazin describes the reality as it is and not how it has been presented for years by the proponents of political correctness.” According to such people Germany is a “multicultural idyll with a few minor blemishes, which can be smoothed away through socio-therapeutic measures.” To which he says “No, no way is that the case.”

”The incorrect tone of voice”

Giordano concedes that Sarrazin could have expressed himself “in a more restrained manner, been a bit more flowery. But that doesn’t mean that he wasn’t absolutely correct in his core message and general assessment, which is that the social state is still having to wrestle with problems of its own creation. “ Giordano emphasised that “The observations of his that have been taken amiss are nothing compared to the things he describes. He’s correct when he states that the lower the social class, the higher the birthrate. He’s correct when he says that large sections are neither willing to nor capable of being integrated. He’s right when he says we have to totally reform family policy, and get rid of the financial incentives, especially for the underclass. And he’s also right in saying that 70% of the Turkish and 90% of the Arab populations reject the state and have little interest in the education of their children. It’s all correct.”

”Blanket suspicion is wrong”

In Giordano’s view Sarrazin should have perhaps emphasised more strongly that there are migrants who want to integrate. One shouldn’t tar everyone with the same brush. “Yes that’s true. However the interview reveals an extraordinary knowledge of the population structure and the history of both Berlins, East as well as West, before and after reunification.” Giordano continued ”I feel that Sarrazin displays a knowledge of the historical, sociological, political and cultural interrelationships and circumstances at a level I have never heard or read about before.”

Regarding the consequences for German foreign relations, Giordano said “No one knows how the problems caused by our failed migration policy. We’re all just milling around, baffled by it all, wondering why integration simply hasn’t happened.”

When asked whether he even considers integration to be possible at all, Giordano answers “I’ve been pondering that question for the last ten years. It seems that it may be possible in individual cases, but only at the margins. Collectively, this minority will not become integrated. So what the? Well in spite of that we have to figure out how to at least coexist peaceably.”

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Posted by Captainchaos on October 13, 2009, 05:15 PM | #

What is important is that Sailer’s earnest policy recommendation hurts our interests.  That must come at the cost of some credibility for him.

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Posted by Friedrich Braun on October 13, 2009, 06:34 PM | #

Kramer does a great job of feeding the demons of anti-Semitism in the BRD, in that sense anti-Semites should be grateful to him. He keeps them in business. If Thilo is a neo-Nazi, then Murray is a Hitlerite on steroids:

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/jewish-genius-10855?page=all

...and published in Commentary, no less!

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Posted by Frank on October 13, 2009, 09:33 PM | #

CC,

I don’t read all Sailer’s work, but he’s done some good research. He helps with the culture war, and that’s probably more important than policy at this time.

Blogger “Faust” points out that I must have been thinking of John Derbyshire.

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On the one hand, you have the “moderate is the enemy of extreme”. But on the other you have “moderate is entry level to extreme”.

For Sailer, I suspect his role is largely impacting the latter. VDARE likely exists to do just that, as well as to influence immigration policy.

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I suspect “moderate is entry level to extreme” works when the core values are kept, but the logical conclusions aren’t taken.

Whereas “moderate is the enemy of extreme” works when the core values are totally wrong, but the the recommendations are somewhat appealing (e.g. immigration and war against the ‘foreign other that threatens “us”’.

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Posted by Frank on October 13, 2009, 09:37 PM | #

That’s why I like the BNP approach, at least when the BNP appears as we all like.

They hit the core values, the moral core; but they refrain from anything unappealing. If all foreigners must be thrown out, that’s a conclusion that’s left for members to decide. But what is pushed is pride in being of distinct British stock and family values (good for children and strength). That’s what we need. The details can be addressed once someone’s in a position to address them, imo.

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Posted by Frank on October 13, 2009, 09:42 PM | #

Just the same, you never hear many globalists talk about the Weatherman Underground plan of not expelling as we’d all go for but flat out killing the problematic demographics were they to come to power.

And La Raza puts on a good image, though we know they’d slaughter us given the chance.

It’s a tad scary being white when the opponents are so bloodthirsty… We’re portrayed as Hollywood Nazis, and we’re the least like such stereotype…

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Posted by Common cents on October 13, 2009, 11:07 PM | #

I would like it, if it were Eastern European Jews with a 15% higher IQ than the native Germans.—Thilo Sarrazin

Right now, the Turks in Germany do the menial/manual labor trades…trash collection, basic auto assembly, street sweeping, menial restaurant work, etc.

If Jews came to again dominate Germany, they would remove ethnic Germans from all higher-tier occupations and jobs and force them in to the types of jobs the Turks currently do whilst they would rule all from above in their steel and glass skyscrapers as they currently do in the USA.

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Posted by Friedrich Braun on October 13, 2009, 11:14 PM | #

Thilo wants a replay of the ‘20’s and ‘30’s in Germany? Been there, done that. Ended rather badly, if I recall.

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Posted by Selous Scouts on October 14, 2009, 12:24 AM | #

It’s a tad scary being white when the opponents are so bloodthirsty… We’re portrayed as Hollywood Nazis, and we’re the least like such stereotype…

I agree. Fuck the Yid Hollywood portrayals. Why are modern Whites so pussified? I don’t get it. It’s time for Whites to become more bloodthirsty and give our enemies what they’ve been asking for.

I’m feeling the bloodlust, again, but I can’t do it alone.

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Posted by achatz on October 14, 2009, 04:01 AM | #

Friederich: Monty Python?  Monty Python exudes serenity and SANITY in abundance!


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Neuhaus am Inn - Zwei Kinder, eine Hochschwangere und 11 Erwachsene aus Rumänien haben sich im Laderaum eines Transporters gequetscht.
© Polizei
Der Ford Transporter, in dem 14 Menschen gequetscht wurden - darunter zwei Kinder.
Der uralte britische Ford Transit wurde am Mittwochabend auf der Autobahn A 3, kurz hinter der Grenze zu Österreich,  von der Polizei kontrolliert. Die fast mittellosen Personen (12 Erwachsene darunter 1 hochschwangere Frau und 2 Kinder) waren auf dem Weg nach Berlin. Für die Fahrgäste in der Ladefläche gab es notdürftige Schlaf- und Sitzeinrichtungen aus Decken, richtige Autositze aber nicht.
Einer der Männer (42) wurde wegen Betruges gesucht. Zwei weitere Personen waren wegen Diebstahls und Betruges zur Aufenthaltsermittlung ausgeschrieben.
Der Ford war in Berlin an einer Verkehrsunfall beteiligt gewesen. Ferner besteht für das Fahrzeug keine Zulassung und Versicherung.
Alle Personen wurden auf die Dienststelle der Polizei gebracht, vom Bayerischen Roten Kreuz verpflegt und in einem Notzelt untergebracht.  Am 02.07.09 stellte das Landratsamt Passau für die Weiterreise der mittellosen Rumänen ein Fahrzeug mit Fahrer zur Verfügung

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tranlation:

Neuhaus am Inn -  two children, a highly pregnant woman and 11 adults from Rumania squeezed themselves into the loading area of a transporter . The age old British Ford Transit was stopped by police on Wednesday evening on the autobahn A 3, just after the border to Austria. The persons, practically without any means ( 12 adults, 1 highly pregnant women and 2 children) were on their way to Berlin…....
One of the men ( 42) was wanted for fraud. Two other persons were wanted for theft and fraud.
The Ford had been involved in an accident in Berlin. Furthermore the car was not registered and uninsured.
All persons were brought to the police station, fed by the Bavarian Red Cross and accommodated in an emergency tent. On 02.07.09 the ‘Landratsamt’ Passau provided a motor car with CHAUFFEUR fo the ‘out of pocket’ Rumanians for their journey to Berlin.

Like Fred Scrooby I am a diaspora German. But when I read something like this and the Sarrazin saga, I am tempted to hide my ‘teutonic’ background. In the 90’s when ‘neo-NAZIS’ and other repugnant characters, set (allegedly) homes of ‘people with a migrant background’ alight, thousands of Germans with candles walked through the country shouting:” Dear immigrants do not leave us alone with these Germans”. What are they doing for Sarrazin i.e for themselves to-day “Zilch, nothing, nada”. Sefton Delmer was right. Only now the war has been really won. These ‘occupation farm hands’ are without any backbone,  beyond any redemption and psychological help. A perfect example of a totally brainwashed/-dead people and proof positive that a whole people can be gently convinced to commit suicide with a smile on their face and a ‘JAWOHL’  on their lips (accompanied by solid heel clicking).
And for our ‘british partners in crime’  now filled with ‘schadenfreude’ go to the occidental observer. “YOUR CHOICE OF TREATMENT”

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Posted by Wandrin on October 14, 2009, 05:15 AM | #

But on the other you have “moderate is entry level to extreme”.

Agree. Media brain-washing means people are further from a WN position than they were in the 1930s or even the 1950s. We need a two-stage radicalization - one that brings people back to a 1950s state and then a second that takes them to the neccessary end-point.

I suspect “moderate is entry level to extreme” works when the core values are kept, but the logical conclusions aren’t taken.

Agree again. I think one of the best ways to promote first-stage radicalization is stating everything up to a logical conclusion but leaving the final step unsaid, for example:

In 1917 the Bolsheviks hijacked Russia. They murdered previously unimaginable numbers of people. They attacked all the neighbouring countries assisted by local fifth columnists but mostly got beaten back. They re-focused on building up their industry to create a stronger war machine. In the meantime they continued to groom their fifth columns in all the nearby countries including Germany. During 1932-33 they starved six million Ukrainians to death a few hundred miles from Germany’s eastern border. In 1933 the German elite made Hitler the Chancellor of Germany.

Then stop.

The logical conclusion is left hanging in the air. You don’t have to say anything that triggers people’s brain-washing. You let them make the next step. Whatever their individual view of Hitler and the Nazis it gets dragged a few notches away from the official version because everyone understands self defense.

Thilo wants a replay of the ‘20’s and ‘30’s in Germany? Been there, done that. Ended rather badly, if I recall

It will certainly end badly if any one country tries it alone. Nationalists somewhere need to try and gain power while staying below the threshold that would get them bombed. Then they need to use that power to get a hold of some mass media and use it to to try and bring the rest of the White nations to the same level. Next time, if there is a next time, we all need to go to the second stage as a group. If we do that then there might not even be any need for much nastiness. Germany and Serbia both arose from going it alone allowing the enemy’s media dominance to isolate and destroy. That’s why it needs to be WN and not just nationalist. We need to play an international game like the enemy does.

It’s time for Whites to become more bloodthirsty and give our enemies what they’ve been asking for.

It’s time for white nationalists to try and create peaceful, democratic mass organisations that the enemy feels threatened by and let the inevitable enemy attacks on those peaceful democratic organisations drive people to the next stage. “Dealing steel” (hat tip to the white rabbit guy) is counter productive unless you have numbers first. Any bloodthirstiness needs to be kept chilled in my view.

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Posted by Bold Beard on October 14, 2009, 11:30 AM | #

In reply to Common cents, anyone with a cursory knowledge of London, England will tell you, that despite having a non-White population of over 50%, the majority of dustmen, road-sweepers and other menial laborers happen to be lower class Whites of pure Anglo-Saxon origin.
  The catering trade, however is fully staffed with non-English of any variety.
The irony is that all the good, cushy jobs in local authorities, in centrally heated offices, where you sit on your arse all day are almost entirely ‘wog-stuffed’ (due to government diktat).Meanwhil the English do the cleaning up outside in the cold.
What an utterly, utterly sick situation in an utterly sick country!!!!!
There is one and only one possible justification for importing wogs - that they do the cleaning up after the natives.
England has got this back to front - Sorry, but the country is hopelessly (and perhaps deservedly) doomed.

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Posted by Frank on October 14, 2009, 12:00 PM | #

Selous Scouts,

I meant that as an inspiration - I’ve heard how in past times nobles would be on their feet because a slip up could cost them their head. We seem to be in need of reminder of just what dangers lurk.

Violence can be counterproductive - if we can but acquire a media we can get our side of the truth out. Moral high ground has its merits, and we risk losing whites from propaganda alone let alone real events. Anarcho-tyranny (Sam Francis’s term) though is worth looking into and doesn’t necessarily refer to violence. It’s being used against whites right now and could be put in reverse.

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Posted by Wandrin on October 14, 2009, 12:35 PM | #

Sorry, but the country is hopelessly (and perhaps deservedly) doomed.

You’re not sorry at all. You’d like it to be true.

Anyone who hates one of the White nations more than the enemy is part of the enemy.

Anyone who hates Catholics/Protestants/Orthodox/Atheists more than the enemy is part of the enemy.

Hate whoever you want after we win or we won’t win.

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Posted by Dasein on October 14, 2009, 06:59 PM | #

Der Spiegel now has an English article on the Sarrazin affair and immigration problems in Germany:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,654921,00.html

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Posted by jamesUK on October 14, 2009, 09:03 PM | #

@Wandrin

Why is it that revisionists of WW2, Hitler and the Holocaust never mention that Jews lead the Communist movement and dominated the WW2 and post Soviet satellite states as well as Soviet judges at Nuremberg?

This explains a lot.

It is also claimed that the Soviets deported 400,000 Jews from Poland to Siberia after WW2 is this true?

The Nazis were pretty ruthless to the Jews during WW2. How can you deny the events at Sobibor depicted in this movie Escape from Sobibor. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9vPAKmaJoY

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Posted by marlowe on October 16, 2009, 04:12 PM | #

Fred Reed took a Mexican as everyone knows…

...A Marrano.

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Posted by Wandrin on October 16, 2009, 06:35 PM | #

@JamesUk

Why is it that revisionists of WW2, Hitler and the Holocaust never mention that Jews lead the Communist movement

I don’t know. It’s certainly the weakest point in my view.

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Posted by Frank on October 17, 2009, 04:05 AM | #

Wandrin,

I’ll second your reply October 14, 2009, 09:15 AM.

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MUHAMMAD WAS ALLAH

THE ALLAH (OF THE KORAN) NEVER EXISTED EXCEPT IN THE MIND OF MUHAMMAD

Allah (of the Koran) was the fictional creation of Muhammad who slaughtered, murdered, tortured, terrorized, raped and enslaved kafirs.  At the Massacre of Banu Quraiza, Muhammad personally assisted in the beheading of 600 to 900 Jewish men and in order to distinguish young Jewish boys from young Jewish men ordered their pants pulled down and groin area inspected for pubic hairs by his SS known as – the Companions.  Those boys with the slightest growth of hair were dragged away and beheaded.   

QUOTING PROPHET MUHAMMAD

Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:
Allah’s Apostle said, “You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.’ “

MUHAMMAD WAS THE FIRST ADOLF HITLER


IT’S ALL ABOUT THE KORAN STUPID KAFIR

It is the prime directive of Islam to conquer the nations of the world for Allah (the AntiGod) by whatever means necessary. Allah (the AntiGod) seeks the extermination of all kafirs. By refusing to convert to Islam, kafirs have declared war against Islam, are a grave danger to Allah and must be destroyed. A most important concept that must be emphasized repeatedly is that Islam is a declaration of war against kafirs.  The Koran is not a holy book but a book of war.  A book of genocide.  Allah is the AntiGod of war.  Again, this war is permanent until all kafirs either convert to Islam or agree to pay a devastating jizya (submission tax) and accept dhimmude status (see chapters 43 and 44) or be murdered.

For Muslims, it is a holy religious duty to murder kafirs.  The Koran is written in the language of terrorism. It is filled with numerous verses urging the Muslims to terrorize the non Muslims, kill them, and take possession of their lands and properties. The important points to remember are that whatever Muhammad did to terrorize the kafirs was actually the actions of God.  Among the many verses which exhort Islamist terrorism, the following verses stand out as naked aggression of Allah/Muhammad on the unbelievers: 2:63, 3:151, 8:12, 8:60, 8:59, 9:5, 9:29, 9:55, 11:102, and 17:59 etc.  These teachings are the eternal laws of Allah (the AntiGod) authorization of murder and extermination as a holy duty.   

My book exposes the evil of this ideology and the very grave danger posed to all freedom loving peoples everywhere

Read the book for the brutal reality of this very evil ideology.


Sincerely,

Jake

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Posted by Frank on October 19, 2009, 04:46 AM | #

Islam? Don’t forget Judaism.

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Posted by Frank on October 19, 2009, 04:57 AM | #

Define “freedom loving peoples”... Does that refer to the anti-white regimes currently oppressing the West?

Israel’s supporting the Muslims responsible for the Beslan massacre. I’d like to hear your response on Israel.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 19, 2009, 11:37 PM | #

Snouck posts excerpts documenting how the little Jews suffer from big Jews’ preference that Europe be Islamized and race-replaced:

http://www.islamineurope.net/2009/10/jews-in-multi-cultural-society.html .

There is not one single Jewish organization in Europe or the U.S. or Canada, and not one single Jewish public rabbi or prominent Jewish public intellectual in Europe, the U.S., or Canada, who doesn’t strongly favor unlimited Moslem immigration into Europe, immigration which makes Jews suffer and be afraid.  How do we explain this seeming contradiction, Jews hurting Jews by pushing a type of immigration that’s fiercely anti-Jewish?  Probably a combination of something like the following:  1)  The big Jews who push Europe’s Islamization don’t live in neighborhoods actually physically affected by large Moslem influxes — they’re not terrorized by it as the little Jews are on a daily basis; their kids are not beaten up walking home from their Jewish schools as are the kids of the little Jews, because the big Jews can afford to get away from the problem they create and inflict on others; 2)  the Jews running Jewry (like hyper-obnoxious Abe Foxman over here, or the hyperobnoxious Central Council of Jews in Germany in Berlin) see the genocide of the Euro race and Europe’s total transformation into a purely Moslem continent of purely Maghreb race as beneficial for Jews as a whole, even if little Jews here or there, Amsterdam for example, get inconvenienced in the process.  As the big Jews see it, no matter what problems Moslem immigration creates for some Jews, a Moslem Europe of Maghreb race is still better for Jews as a whole than Europe continuing to be what it’s been for two thousand years.  In their view Jews will in the long run feel more comfortable and will be safer when surrounded entirely by Moslems than when they are surrounded entirely by Eurochristians.  If some Jews are inconvenienced by the transformation, well, that’s regrettable but the transformation must continue nevertheless for the good of the Jewish community as a whole.

That must be roughly how the big Jews see what’s going on.  It’s like in 1941 when Third Reich planners decided that Gottschee, a German enclave in Slovenia (an enclave left over from the days when all of that, Slovenia, Gottschee, neighboring Croatia, and so on, were part of the Austrian Empire) had to be dismantled and its German population permanently moved out of there.  These Germans had been in that spot for something like a thousand years and the last thing in the world they wanted was to leave their home, but leave they must:  planners in Berlin had decided it was for the good of Germans as a whole.  They were resettled elsewhere.  Likewise, it seems the last thing Amsterdam’s Jews want is massive Moslem immigration pouring in right next door to them and their kids, but they must be subjected to it:  big Jew planners have decided it’s for the good of Jews as a whole that Europe be turned one-hundred percent Moslem.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 20, 2009, 12:02 AM | #

By the way, notice that you will never see any of the (extremely rare) Jews who question Moslem immigration into Europe denounce organized Jewry for promoting it.  Only “fringe” gentiles like the people at this site do that.  The Jews, who should be doing it, refuse.  I’m Catholic yet I denounce the Vatican in regard to immigration.  You will never see Jews denounce organized Jewry for organized Jewry’s absolutely fanatical support of incompatible immigration.  Never.  Jews simply will not denounce their own on immigration.  Or maybe they have on those special sunglasses, Jewblockers©, that make it impossible to see the bad that Jews do.

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Posted by Wandrin on October 20, 2009, 02:55 AM | #

How do we explain this seeming contradiction, Jews hurting Jews by pushing a type of immigration that’s fiercely anti-Jewish?

I don’t think they thought it through. It makes simple sense for jews to try and undermine the “us” of the host nation - the less a host nation views itself as “us” the less the host nation views internal minorities as “them”. The UK version of the planned White genocide involved black Christians, Indian Sikhs and Hindus as well as Pakistani muslims. I doubt they even considered the differences between the groups until the last ten years or so when it’s become increasingly obvious the muslim invasion will inevitably lead to jews having to quit Europe completely (at best).

Those people who seek out the news may have already realised their cunning plan is looking like heading towards a self-created holocaust but i wouldn’t be surprised if most jews living in nice suburbs don’t really understand what they’ve done yet.

Of those that have realised what’s happening i think one very definite strand of thinking has formed that sees the problem as Israel being the pebble in islam’s shoe. As the genocide of Europeans will lead to the destruction of Israel anyway i think they have switched to being explicitly anti-Israel in the hope that if Israel is destroyed sooner rather than later then the muslims will calm down and the locust jews in Europe can continue recreating the invisible aristocracy they had in the Soviet Union. I’d expect this group to tell the “little jews” to protect themselves by being very publically anti-Israel, wait for Israel to fall and then the muslims will calm down and let jews run the ruins of Europe.

Personally i don’t think it will work out that way because these things have a momentum that can’t be easily halted. Either way I’d expect to see ever more extreme examples in Europe of left-liberal jewish media types grovelling to islam and denigrating the west in the hope of currying favour.

The other wing is the neo-con types who i think saw the Israel problem earliest but came up with the completely mad solution of using US power to make middle-eastern countries democratic as they believed that would somehow make Israel safe while the eradication of White Europeans could carry on as before. I think the insanity of the neo-con plan is evidence of just how much they hate White people as it shows they’d try anything, no matter how crazy, rather than call a halt to their targeted genocide of White Europeans.

From reading around, these people seem to me to have given up on any long term plan for the time being. All they seem to care about at the moment is their desperate desire to get the US to attack Iran before Iran gets nukes, something that’s not going too well as they wasted all their political capital over Iraq and Afghanistan.  A few seem to be dipping their toe gingerly into immigration control but it is totally against their inclinations. I’d imagine a few are also thinking about trying to hijack WN. Hopefully no one will be foolish enough to go along with that.

Like the leftist jews the neo-cons are also trapped by their hatred. They only consider options that include the permanent eradication of White children and that limits their choices that destroy them as well.

I think the only future for jews in Europe is to leave for the states. Even then, muslims are following them there as well but also blacks and hispanics in the states have been quietly watching jews stab White Americans in the back for decades. As soon as they no longer need jews in the Democratic party they’ll turn on them out of proactive self-defense.

So my prediction is in 50 years time pretty much all the jews who survive the tide they’ve unleashed will be in SE Asia screwing up the Japan and Korea.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 20, 2009, 10:20 AM | #

Vdare.com has an article up this morning on the Sarrazin affair, with a brief intro by Peter Brimelow:

http://www.vdare.com/misc/091019_koski.htm .

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Posted by Dasein on October 21, 2009, 03:20 AM | #

Here is a concrete example of something that Fred has often talked about, namely how US Jews are able to exert political influence in Europe:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/6391838/Conservative-Party-facing-US-pressure-over-links-with-far-right-parties-in-Europe.html

William Hague, the Shadow Home Secretary, is to meet the US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, in Washington on Wednesday amid outrage from the American Jewish community about the alleged antisemitic and neo-Nazi views of the Tory’s European allies.

...

According to The Guardian newspaper, Mrs Clinton is facing calls from influential Jewish groups to challenge the Conservative Party’s decision to enter a European parliament coalition with a Latvian party, some of whose members attend memorials for Latvian units of Hitler’s Waffen-SS, and a Polish politician who has questioned the need to apologise for an anti-Jewish pogrom during the second world war.

...

“I think Churchill would turn in his grave. It is an insult to the tradition of this great party,” George Schwab, president of the New York-based National Committee on American Foreign Policy and a Holocaust survivor from Latvia, told The Guardian.

...

The Obama administration wants the British Government, its closest ally in Europe, at the heart of policy-making on the continent alongside Germany and France.

An American official, asked about the consequences for the US and about the far-right links, said: “I do not see any upsides in the new grouping. I can only see downsides. In life it is normally best to do things when they have an upside.

The bolded sentence could be in the screenplay for Godfather IV.

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Posted by Dasein on October 21, 2009, 03:25 AM | #

I should have gone straight to the Guardian article, it’s better.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/20/tories-eu-allies-us-pressure

US officials watched with concern recent reports about Kaminski who questioned the decision of the former Polish president Aleksander Kwasniewski to apologise for the 1941 Jedwabne massacre of at least 300 Jews. Kaminski has condemned the massacre, but indicated it was wrong to expect Poles to apologise until Jews apologised for alleged involvement with the Communists in Soviet-occupied eastern Poland.

Western Politics Lesson #1: Never, ever point out Jewish double standards.

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Posted by GoyAmongYou on October 24, 2009, 07:43 PM | #

Posted by jamesUK on October 15, 2009, 01:03 AM | #

How can you deny the events at Sobibor depicted in this movie Escape from Sobibor. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9vPAKmaJoY

What a tear-jerker!
It reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptZD_0oPdb8

~ With ashkenutzie violins where available ~

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 24, 2009, 10:10 PM | #

“Here is a concrete example of something that Fred has often talked about, namely how US Jews are able to exert political influence in Europe:”  (—Dasein)

Those are excellent examples, Dasein, precisely the sort of thing I meant, the sort of thing we can be sure goes on.  Multiply those few by

a thousand

ten thousand and you’ll have an idea.

Moral of the story:  if you’re in a European country that doesn’t have lots of Jews, yet your government keeps inexplicably doing Jewish-type stuff like building Holocaust Museums every square kilometer of your country’s land surface, setting up a federal bureau to officially monitor anti-Semitism worldwide and report to your parliament once a year on how it can be combatted, making the asking of questions about the Holocaust (instead of accepting everything about it without question) punishable by death, your prime minister officially apologizing once a week for the Holocaust (even though only three Jews in your country got killed by Einsatzgruppen, while both before and after the Einsatzgruppen passed through town in 1941 the local red commissars,  who were all without exception local Jews, killed, terrorized, tortured, maimed, personally raped, expropriated, robbed, massacred, plundered, and deported to Siberia in cattle cars never to be seen or heard of again for the mere crime of being Christian hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands of your innocent Christian countrymen which was why those three Jewish communist murderers got hung in reprisal by the Einsatzgruppen in the first place), voting your entire national treasury to be paid to the great-grandchildren of Holocaust survivors because they’re too traumatized by the phony stories their great grandfather told them to find work so are now on psychiatric disability all because of the Holocaust, and last but not least forcing all schoolrooms in your country to have a portrait-quality poster of Borat hanging on the wall — if your country doesn’t have lots of Jews but you notice it keeps on doing stuff like the above, now you know where that’s coming from.  CvH and Finn, please take note.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 15, 2009, 06:12 PM | #

From Der Nonkonformist:

Former German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt:  “Halt further immigration!”

It seems, with former politicians, that they always speak out on uncomfortable subjects after they leave office.  As past experience has shown, uncomfortable truths often lead to a higher risk of accidents, or expulsion from the party, or the whole nine yards with loss of job.

After former Chancellor Helmut Schmidt leveled criticism of federal German immigration policy a few years ago things suddenly became very quiet around him, though he didn’t suffer any deadly car crashes.  Lately he’s commented on the Thilo Sarrazin flap to help provide a little back-up.  Thus his statement to Focus that we “must halt further immigration from alien cultures.”

Moreover, “Seven million foreigners in Germany is a flawed development, for which the politicians are answerable.” 

But Schmidt goes further and identifies the problem immigrant groups separately.  While foreigners from European countries have for the most part integrated well, it seems immigrants from other cultures bring, together with benefits, something totally different:  “Immigration of peoples from eastern Turkey and Black Africa doesn’t solve any problem, it only creates an additional, harder problem.”

The nature of this problem will be apparent to all who’ve suffered through multiculturalism with their eyes open and who aren’t out of contact with reality.  Thus do Turks have scarcely any productive usefulness in this society.  The usefulness of the few Turks who are active is more than outweighed by this group’s unuseful majority. 

A large proportion of Turks who live here depend on welfare; furthermore, this group is disproportionately represented in crime statistics.

But we shouldn’t think letting off steam with harsh words every few months is a solution.  The only sure way is the stringent, prompt repatriation of the problem ethnic groups back to their countries of origin.  This is our country; it’s time we starting showing it!

For those interested, the following are a few additional statements by Helmut Schmidt on this subject:

”It was certainly a mistake letting so many foreigners into the country.”  (Filder-Zeitung, Feb. 5, 1993)

“When it’s to the point of murder and mayhem, there are too many foreigners among us.”  (Frankfurter Rundschau, Nov. 28, 1994)

“We need a clear-cut, quick deportation process for all cases in which petitions are denied.  Article 16 GG does not require that asylum seekers be entitled to full welfare benefits to include the complete range of orthodontic work for their teeth, paid for by Social Services.”  (Neue Revue, Oct. 13, 1992)

“500,000 immigrants a year is quite simply too many.”  …  “No nation in the world would put up with half-a-million immigrants entering every year, as we are experiencing … This country is out of control and that is unacceptable.  Let the incompetents who are running things learn that.”  (Bild, Sept. 6, 1992)

“The idea that a modern society is required to transform itself into a multicultural society with as many different cultural groups as possible, I consider absurd.”  (Frankfurter Rundschau, Sept. 12, 1992)

“Germany shall not be turned into a ‘nation of immigrants.’  This society will not stand for it.”  (Stuttgarter Nachrichten, Sept. 15, 1992)

[ http://www.nonkonformist.net/2724/ex-bundeskanzler-schmidt-weitere-zuwanderung-unterbinden/#more-2724 ]

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Posted by peter on June 18, 2010, 11:03 PM | #

Hi racist pigs , you murdered all the Jews in Europe and now blaming them for the Muslim invasionj. You got what you deserved - you people murdered European Jews and now G-d punishing you by sending to your land blacks and muslims. Soon they will f..ck your women and your daughters, You don’t have any courage , all you were able to - to push defenseless Jews into gas chambers. Now it is a pay-back time - you are haters of Israel and you will be f..ked.

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Posted by Lurker on June 19, 2010, 01:02 AM | #

Thanks for that Peter. Its always good to amass extra evidence - evidence that jews dont discriminate between Europeans when it comes to blame for the holocaust, we are all guilty. Thus you show your true feelings, who you hate.

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Posted by Wandrin on June 19, 2010, 12:42 PM | #

@peter
jews support the immigration-genocide of white people because they see it as revenge

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Posted by peter on June 20, 2010, 02:10 AM | #

Wandrin -
Jews don’t have any sympathy for Europe , they just don’t care. At the same time Europeans united in the new antisemitism - hate of Israel .Even though Israel is on the front line for the fight against militant Islam. So European hate is illogical and counterproductive. Europeans must applaud Israel in her righteous fight , but they do quite the opposite - they support those who wants them (Europeans) to get subjugated , they on the side of those who wants to destroy Western civilization.
My theory is - Europeans hate Jews so match that they are ready to be on the side of their enemy end executioners as long as their enemy is against the Jews.

Jews in Europe no longer exist , they all murdered or left ( except a few hundred thousands , that can not influence European immigration policy , your statement is a proof of zoological antisemitism - you blame the Jews for everything including European immigration policy.


Lurker -
In fact the Jews discriminate European with respect to the Holocaust - there were righteous gentiles and righteous nations such as - Finland , Denmark , Serbia , Bulgaria and Albania. The rest cooperated with Nazis and event exceeded Nazi’s themselves   - Ukraine , Poland , Slovakia , Croatia , Lativa, Litvania , Estonia.

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Posted by Guessedworker on June 20, 2010, 06:28 AM | #

Peter,

There is nothing you can say, no special point or argument that you can conjure, which will suffice for your larger purposes in dealings with the goyim.  Not here.  We are not the goyim with whom you are used to dealing.  We are not Jew-haters, we are not irrational, we are not suggestible.  We are, most of all, not blind.  We can see you clearly.  We know you very well.  Should one of us decide to respond to the inanities you have posted, you will have to raise your game to stand any chance, frankly, of covering your Jewish arse.  For the moment, you are saved by the fact that no one thinks you are worth the effort.

Wandrin,

It isn’t revenge.  Their visceral hostility to Christianity, even, is not a revenge issue.  It is more existential than that.  Christianity is the clearest statement that the very foundation and meaning of Jewishness is, in a word, a racist mistake.  To be Jewish is to be set upon a path of existential struggle from which there can be no turning away, for the Jewish identity ceases when the path is forsaken.

It is not revenge.  It is simply Jewishness.

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Posted by peter on June 20, 2010, 10:11 AM | #

GuessedEWorker -

Comments by Fred Scrooby and the others like him prove that this site is being used by the Jew haters

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Posted by peter on June 20, 2010, 10:17 AM | #

Guessworker :
“It isn’t revenge.  Their visceral hostility to Christianity, even, is not a revenge issue.  It is more existential than that.  Christianity is the clearest statement that the very foundation and meaning of Jewishness is, in a word, a racist mistake.  To be Jewish is to be set upon a path of existential struggle from which there can be no turning away, for the Jewish identity ceases when the path is forsaken.

It is not revenge.  It is simply Jewishness. ”

Please educate yourself - Jews brought X-ty to the world and the first X-tians were Jews , Nero killed the Jews who happened to be X-tians .

As a Jew I got some X-tian friends , even though I disagree of their interpretation of the Word of G-d I don’t hate them.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 20, 2010, 06:27 PM | #

“Comments by Fred Scrooby and the others like him prove that this site is being used by the Jew haters”  (—Peter)

Was there something in a comment of mine that you wanted to refute, Peter?

”@peter
jews support the immigration-genocide of white people because they see it as revenge”
  (—Wandrin)

Peter’s reply to Wandrin:

“Jews in Europe no longer exist, they were all murdered or they left (except a few hundred thousand who cannot influence European immigration policy).  Your statement is proof of zoological antisemitism - you blame the Jews for everything including European immigration policy.”

I see the matter of diaspora Jewish influence differently:  it is alive and well and extremely powerful.  French and British Jews directly exert enormous influence on the politics of those two countries in favor of immigration-driven genocide of their respective traditional Euro-race populations, and the thirteen-million-strong U.S. Jewish community leverages its power via the power and prestige of the U.S. itself which that community strongly influences if not outright controls in certain domains [just a few of those domains being 1) policy toward Israel, 2) open-borders-with-the-Third-World immigration policy, and 3) a policy of building at U.S. taxpayer expense a Holocau$t Museum in every city, town, and village the length and breadth of the land], to exert vast political, economic, and “cultural” (if you can call the excrement most of these Jews churn out “culture”), to

influence

more or less coerce open-borders race-replacement genocide of all Euro-race populations Eurospherewide.

Guessedworker by the way, and most of the others here both bloggers and regular commenters, don’t agree with me about the magnitude of Jewish culpability for Eurosphere open borders.  A few do, but nowhere near enough to warrant taking my view as this blog’s view:  the blog, if it can be said to tend toward a particular view of the matter at all, for the most part blames the Euro peoples themselves far more and the Jews far less than I do.  (My view is women’s suffrage is most to blame, Jewish influence second-most.)

Why did European Organized Jewry strongly oppose the Swiss referendum result against building more minarets?  Why does European Organized Jewry strongly want a Moslem Europe of non-white race?

What country do you live in?

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Posted by Wandrin on June 20, 2010, 08:00 PM | #

@peter

Erm…one minute

Hi racist pigs , you murdered all the Jews in Europe and now blaming them for the Muslim invasionj. You got what you deserved - you people murdered European Jews and now G-d punishing you by sending to your land blacks and muslims. Soon they will f..ck your women and your daughters, You don’t have any courage , all you were able to - to push defenseless Jews into gas chambers. Now it is a pay-back time - you are haters of Israel and you will be f..ked.

then

Jews don’t have any sympathy for Europe , they just don’t care.

But anyway,

At the same time Europeans united in the new antisemitism - hate of Israel.

The main reason Europe is criticizing Israel is not anti-semitism. jews in America created PC as a way of attacking white people and it then spread to Europe. PC is anti-white. White liberals in Europe attack Israel because they see Israelis as white and Palestinians as brown. They’re attacking Israel because PC infected them with hatred of *white people* not jews. The Israelis are being f**ked by a weapon the diaspora jews created to hurt white people. If they want to see white liberals in Europe stop attacking them then all you have to do is make all your TV spokesmen darker than Palestinians.

Personally i don’t hate Israel. I know some people do but personally i’d like all the jews to go live there, have a happy life, and leave us alone. However i’m not going to support Israel while diaspora jews are trying to genocide white people with immigration.

that can not influence European immigration policy , your statement is a proof of zoological antisemitism - you blame the Jews for everything including European immigration policy.

jewish politicians promote unlimited immigration, jewish money promotes unlimited immigration and jewish media promotes unlimited immigration. They want to exterminate white people with immigration.


GW,

Yes. I use the word revenge for narrative/story reasons.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 20, 2010, 09:46 PM | #

“jewish politicians promote unlimited immigration, jewish money promotes unlimited immigration and jewish media promotes unlimited immigration. They want to exterminate white people with immigration.”  (—Wandrin)

Well said. 

Let the blind, deaf, and dumb Peter put that in his “zoological anti-Semitism” pipe and smoke it.

You cannot communicate with these people.  They simply will not hear our grievance.  You say it, you explain it, you repeat it, and it’s as if they did not hear you.  A total waste of effort. 

All culpability for any consequences, one hundred percent of it, is theirs.  It is laid at their feet, laid there by their own deaf, ill-intentioned selves.

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Posted by peter on June 20, 2010, 10:34 PM | #

Fred Scooby :

‘Let the blind, deaf, and dumb Peter put that in his “zoological anti-Semitism” pipe and smoke it. “

Well I do understand your grievances , however the attitude to blame Jews for everything is unhelpful and counterproductive. This is not the Jews but left-wing “liberalism” that is the enemy of the Jews and Israel.This left-wing policies undermine Western civilization which Israel is a part of.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 20, 2010, 11:42 PM | #

This is not the Jews but left-wing “liberalism”  (—Peter)

The present entry and comments thread refer to the fact that the Central Council of Jews in Germany, which is official German Jewry, shows by their statements that they want, official German Jewry wants, a Moslem and a non-white population, society, and culture to replace Germany’s traditional white Christianity-based population, society, and culture.  They’ve shown by their statements not only in this Sarrazin affair but in every other affair regarding Germany and Europe in which they’ve stuck their obnoxious Jewish nose, that they not only want the above genocidal transformation but want it extremely badly and are willing to work as hard as they can to bring it about.  Moreover, all other organized Jewish bodies in all corners of the Eurosphere from Australia to Canada and everywhere in between, have shown likewise. 

Yet you claim “This is not the Jews but left-wing liberalism.” 

All right, where is the organized Jewry that doesn’t do it?  Can you point out that segment of official or organized Jewry anywhere in the Eurosphere that explicitly opposes race-replacement volumes of racially-incompatible immigration into traditional Euro-race nations or even says it sympathizes with or understands groups that oppose it? 

You can’t because no such official or organized Jewry exists.  Not only does no such organized Jewry exist but no organized Jewry exists that doesn’t staunchly endorse, if not aggressively push, race-replacement:  very simply, no such thing exists.  They all endorse/push it.  If you live in Israel, Peter, you may not be fully aware of this, but out here in the diaspora:  If it’s Jewish it pushes it.  If it’s Jewish it pushes genocide of Euro-race peoples everywhere in the world they live.  (Not that you’re supposed to care — it’s our problem, granted, not yours.  But we don’t like being genocided.  Got that?  If that’s “zoological anti-Semitism” I’m Johan Hari.)

So, we have all known official Jewish bodies very aggressively pushing race-replacement immigration on traditional Euro nations, and none, not one, opposing it, yet “it’s the liberals not the Jews who keep pushing it.”  Forgive me, if the only fish that exist swim, and no fish that exist don’t swim, then fish swim; if the only fire that exists is hot, and no fire that exists isn’t hot, then fire is hot; if the only wind that exists blows, and no wind that exists doesn’t blow, then wind blows; if the only water that exists is wet, and no water that exists isn’t wet, then water is wet; if the only Jewry that exists pushes race-replacement on Euro people, and no Jewry that exists opposes pushing race-replacement on Euro people, then Jewry pushes race-replacement on Euro people.

You’ve got a counter-example?

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Posted by peter on June 21, 2010, 12:17 AM | #

Fred , with all due respect - the Jews who live in Germany don’s have any self esteem and self-respect. As the Jews shall not step their feet on the land of the perpetrators. So what do you expect from people who are pure opportunists. They try to emulate society they are surrounded. In case of Germany - it is either Nazis of Left-Wingers. The rest of the population follows the above mentioned groups.

So please try to do something else but blame the Jews , this is not a new game. By the way the Turks started to move to Germany in 50th when Germans needed cheap workers. The same sh..t happens in US with the respect to Mexicans in Russian with Uzbeks etc… So these groups trying to stay in the countries where they came as a cheap workers. What does it have with the Jews ?

It is unfortunate economical paradigm that brings dis-adventures to the population of the developed countries but it brings extra $ for the corporation that imports and used cheap work force - for example IBM today having 60K people in the US and 110 K in India. What do is have to do with the Jews ?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 21, 2010, 12:40 AM | #

“What does [the forcing of excessive incompatible immigration] have to do with the Jews ?”  (—Peter)

Read Kevin MacDonald’s book or come to the U.S. and see what the Jews do when anybody tries to remedy the problem.

“please try to do something else but blame the Jews”  (—Peter)

Be happy to — just as soon as the Jews stop being blameworthy.  For groups as for individuals, improving your reputation isn’t free:  you have to earn it.

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Posted by Observer on June 21, 2010, 04:34 AM | #

Fred,

It’s wonderful to see you back dear Comrade!

Hope all is good with you, and hope to see ya over at OD as well.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 21, 2010, 07:24 AM | #

Thanks, Observer.  Over at OccidentalDissent.com Hunter Wallace, Kievsky, Matt Parrott, and all the rest of the crew never fail to put out an excellent product, consistently first-rate.  I haven’t been commenting over there, only because of time constraints from obligations that have swamped me lately.  I keep up with the reading both here and there as best I can.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 21, 2010, 12:46 PM | #

” Jews in Europe no longer exist […] (except a few hundred thousand who cannot influence European immigration policy).”  (—Peter)

Do they influence any policy?  Any at all?  It would be astonishing if Jews, as half of U.S. billionaires and a highly political, ethnocentric, anti-Euro and virulently anti-Christian people who’ve had dreams of bringing about a one-coffee-colored-world for two thousand years, wielded no influence on immigration policy.  How about policy toward Israel?  Have you read Walt & Mearsheimer’s book documenting just such influence on a massive scale, with the Zionist lobby more or less dictating U.S. Israeli policy to the U.S. government?  Or how about in Britain — is the following the sort of Jewish powerlessness you had in mind, Peter?:

December 8, 2009

It is not often that one can, with pleasure, place on record that one was wrong in expressing a particular opinion.  But I can do this in the case of a TV documentary film, Inside Britain’s Israel Lobby, by the journalist and political commentator Peter Oborne, broadcast on Monday 16th November by Britain’s Channel 4, an independent network, as part of its Dispatches series.

On the basis of the pro-Zionism of his regular employers The Spectator and the Daily Mail (extreme in the case of the former, moderate in the case of the latter), and what I perceived to be his involvement with the Zionist-inspired media puffing the British National Party (BNP) towards its present situation — a pro-Israel populist party whose opposition to multi-racialism has been replaced by an anti-Islam placebo — I had predicted that Oborne’s investigation of the Israel lobby would be a damp squib at best, or disinformation at worst.

But I was wrong about his film. It went to the heart of the exercise of Jewish power in Britain.  It established that this power is now so substantial and pervasive that Jewry is able to manipulate key institutions of our nation, in particular the governing Labour Party, the official opposition Conservative Party, and the supposedly “independent and impartial by law” BBC for the benefit of a foreign power:  Israel.

Nobody who saw the film could doubt that Zionist Jewry has been able to suborn many people holding key positions with sundry organs of the British nation who have a duty imposed by patriotism, honor and, in some cases, by law to uphold British national sovereignty, political independence and democratic freedoms.

In my view these creatures have become ‘Shabbas Goyim’ who, in return for career enhancement and/or cash, serve the interests of World Jewry in all  its locations and apparitions and not just, as Oborne shows, the state of Israel.

[read more:  http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Webster-Oborne.html ]

The same thing goes for France, you can be sure, and in fact the same influence is also felt far and wide throughout the Eurosphere via the power and prestige of the U.S. over which Jewry exercises hegemony in a number of domains it deems of great interest to itself and therefore is unwilling to leave to chance, including, aside from policy toward Israel, the establishment and maintenance of open Eurosphere borders with the Third World.

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Posted by peter on June 24, 2010, 07:59 AM | #

Scooby , hi

There is no doubt that Jews all over the world have bias towards Israel and this is discussed in the article below :

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Webster-Oborne.html

However Jewish people don’t have any interest in influencing European immigration policy ( this is the topic of our discussion). European Left-wing movements are anti-Zionist (Israel ) and by extension anti-semites. At the same time left-wingers are largely pro-muslim (color)

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 24, 2010, 08:35 AM | #

“Jewish people don’t have any interest in influencing European immigration policy”  (—Peter)

You need to get out more, Peter.

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Posted by peter on June 26, 2010, 12:42 AM | #

Fred Scrooby there is nothing to talk about. As you guys are bunch of anti-Semites and holocaust deniers. Please think what you want in the meantime lowly Jews create Google , Facebbook , send satellite to the orbit , create new medicines etc….
Please enjoy your White-race superiority.

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Posted by Lurker on June 26, 2010, 12:58 AM | #

meantime lowly Jews create Google , Facebook , send satellite to the orbit , create new medicines etc….

And who created the internet that google and FB run on peter?

In fact who are the teams who actually created those entities and develop them now, Id guess that whites are horribly overrepresented. Jewish input into them is merely setting up a business, hiring programers etc. start off with enough ca$h and off you go. Earlier search engines and networking sites managed to get themselves created without the unique blessings of jewish involvement.

As for satellites - who did that first? To put it crudely Russian and nazi scientists first then Americans and nazi scientists second.

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Posted by Kulak on June 26, 2010, 05:26 AM | #

Please enjoy your White-race superiority.

Yes Peter, we most certainly will.

After all, isn’t that what life is all about, striving for superiority in some form or another over others?

Why is it so intrinsically wrong for Whites to do what all others do, especially Jews do, as a matter of course? Isn’t that, after all, what the “religion” of “Judaism” is realistically all about. (I mean, what’s the problem, can’t tolerate some competition?)

Hint: Maybe because Euro-Whites actually are superior, and it strokes and inflames the envious feelings of others, particularly including Jews.

*Some of you may have seen this quote before, but an interesting reminder nonetheless of what really animates the minds of many a ‘Europhobe’:

The concept of envy—the hatred of the superior—has dropped out of our moral vocabulary ... The idea that white Christian civilization is hated more for its virtues than its sins doesn’t occur to us, because it’s not a nice idea. ... Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It’s Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of Western power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don’t grasp what it really means: humiliation. The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn’t conscious of it. And, superiority excites envy. Destroying white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call minorities.

—Joseph Sobran (Sobran’s—April 1997)

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 26, 2010, 08:32 AM | #

“Fred Scrooby there is nothing to talk about.”  (—Peter)

This always happens.  There are no exceptions to it.  No exceptions anywhere.  (Has anyone ever seen an exception?  No, no one.)  The Jews simply deny the bad that they do no matter how blindingly obvious, and call the person pointing it out an “anti-Semite,” cutting off all possibility of communication between us and them on matters that are, to put it mildly, important. 

The fault for this complete impossibility of communication is theirs.

I think the reason they do it is they know perfectly our grievances with respect to them are true, and where would admitting that leave them?  With the obligation to change their ways.  But they can’t change their ways:  they occupy the Jewish niche in human societal ecology, and to stop occupying that niche they’d have to stop being Jews, by definition.  Besides, it’s too much fun occupying that niche — they love it, love being the kind of Jews they are:  selfish, sadistic, promoters of degenerateness, and so on, all the harmful stuff Jews are famous for.  It’s like expecting a tapeworm to admit the truth:  “You know, you’re existing inside my gut at my expense,” and the tapeworm replies, “Oh, there you go, another anti-Tapeworm type, exactly as our grandfathers and great-grandfathers down through the millennia have warned us to beware of!  Look, I don’t talk to anti-tapeworms.  There is nothing to talk about.  I’m out of this conversation.”

What alternative does the tapeworm have?  Is he going to admit the truth (which clearly he knows), then have to admit he’s in the wrong, and will have to change his way of living?  Of course not, mainly because he can’t change his way of living.  If he did that he wouldn’t be a tapeworm.  So he denies everything, stops talking to you, and goes on his merry tapeworm way.

That’s the Jews.  Just like Peter here.

The advent of the State of Israel was supposed to solve the Jewish Problem.  Notice that it hasn’t.

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Posted by peter on June 26, 2010, 01:25 PM | #

Yes the Jews are the worms , that are the name of some of them who created advances in the civilization no argument:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_scientists

The following 196 pages are in this category, out of 431 total. This list may not reflect recent changes (learn more).

  * List of Jewish scientists and philosophers

A

  * Aaron Aaronsohn
  * Anatole Abragam
  * Abraham bar Hiyya
  * Abraham Solomonick
  * Max Abraham
  * Samson Abramsky
  * Liliane Ackermann
  * Georgy Adelson-Velsky
  * Abraham Manie Adelstein
  * Alexandra Adler
  * Saul Adler
  * Amikam Aharoni
  * Yakir Aharonov
  * Aleksander Ilyich Akhiezer
  * Naum Akhiezer
  * Franz Alexander
  * Petrus Alphonsi
  * Amitai Regev
  * Ephraim Anderson
  * Rudolf Arnheim
  * Raymond Aron
  * Charlotte Auerbach
  * Erich Auerbach
  * Herman Auerbach
  * Oscar Auerbach
  * Robert Aumann
  * Hertha Marks Ayrton

B

  * Grigory Barenblatt
  * Ruth Aaronson Bari
  * Henry H. Barschall
  * Kalmi Baruh
  * Ervin Bauer
  * Peter Thomas Bauer
  * Laurence Baxter
  * Morris Bender
  * Felix Berezin
  * Stefan Bergman
  * Paul Bernays
  * Basil Bernstein
  * Joseph Bernstein
  * Sergei Natanovich Bernstein
  * Michael Berry
  * Arthur Berson
  * Abram Samoilovitch Besicovitch
  * Karl Birnbaum
  * Moses Blackman
  * Konrad Emil Bloch
  * Maurice Block
  * Manuel Blum
  * Baruch Samuel Blumberg
  * Salomon Bochner
  * Walter Bodmer
  * David Bohm
  * Niels Bohr
  * Hermann Bondi
  * Max Born
  * Moses Botarel Farissol
  * Herman Branover
  * Sydney Brenner
  * Leslie Brent
  * Selig Brodetsky
  * Urie Bronfenbrenner
  * Jacob Bronowski
  * Michael Stuart Brown
  * Gersh Budker

 
B cont.

  * Edith Bülbring
  * Arnold Burgen

C

  * Roy Yorke Calne
  * Erwin Chargaff
  * Janine Chasseguet-Smirgel
  * Seweryn Chomet
  * Chudnovsky brothers
  * Ernst Cohen
  * Philip Cohen
  * Sydney Cohen
  * Ferdinand Cohn
  * Paul Cohn
  * Mordecai Comtino
  * Gerty Cori

D

  * Emanuel Mendez da Costa
  * Henry Daniels
  * George Dantzig
  * Philip Dawid
  * Helene Deutsch
  * Samuel Devons
  * Aharon Dolgopolsky
  * Cyril Domb
  * Rudolf Dreikurs
  * Louis Israel Dublin
  * Yadin Dudai
  * Jack D. Dunitz
  * Émile Durkheim
  * Raymond Dwek

E

  * Vladimir Pavlovich Efroimson
  * Richard Ehrenberg
  * Paul Ehrenfest
  * Paul Ehrlich
  * Albert Einstein
  * Paul Eisler
  * User:Woz2/Paul Eisler
  * Anthony Epstein

F

  * Robert Fano
  * Ugo Fano
  * Gyula Farkas (natural scientist)
  * Wilhelm Feldberg
  * Werner Fenchel
  * Otto Fenichel
  * Alan Fersht
  * Harry Flam
  * Meyer Fortes
  * John Fox (statistician)
  * Ilya Frank
  * Viktor Frankl
  * Rosalind Franklin
  * Yakov Frenkel
  * Hans Freudenthal
  * Jeffrey M. Friedman
  * Otto Robert Frisch
  * Herbert Fröhlich
  * Erna Furman
  * Julius Fürst

G

  * Dennis Gabor
  * David Gans
  * Richard Gans
  * Hilda Geiringer
  * Ernest Gellner
  * Josef Gerstmann
  * Gideon Mer
  * Vitaly Ginzburg
  * David Glass (sociologist)
  * Max Gluckman

 
G cont.

  * Salome Gluecksohn-Waelsch
  * Ian Glynn
  * Israel Gohberg
  * Thomas Gold
  * Marvin Leonard Goldberger
  * Anna Goldfeder
  * Samuel Goldman
  * Victor Goldschmidt
  * Victor Mordechai Goldschmidt
  * Ladislas Goldstein
  * Jeffrey Goldstone
  * Ignác Goldziher
  * I. J. Good
  * Charles Goodhart
  * Ian Grant
  * Eugene Grebenik
  * Michael Green (physicist)
  * David Gross
  * Marcel Grossmann
  * Hans Grüneberg
  * Louis Guttman
  * Paul Guttmann

H

  * Fritz Haber
  * Steven Haberman
  * Waldemar Haffkine
  * Hans von Halban
  * Jack Halpern (chemist)
  * Max Hamilton
  * Henry Harris (scientist)
  * Sergiu Hart
  * Fritz Heider
  * Ian Heilbron
  * Walter Heitler
  * Heinrich Hertz
  * Noreena Hertz
  * Boris Hessen
  * Gerardus Heymans
  * Milton Himmelfarb
  * Peter Hirsch
  * Gabriel Horn
  * Herbert Huppert

I

  * Abram Ioffe
  * Isaac ibn Sid
  * Alick Isaacs
  * David Ish-Horowicz
  * Werner Israel
  * Isaac Israeli ben Joseph

J

  * François Jacob
  * Marie Jahoda
  * Roman Jakobson

K

  * Leo Kadanoff
  * Jean-Pierre Kahane
  * Richard Kahn, Baron Kahn
  * Nicholas Kaldor
  * Salomon Kalischer
  * George Kalmus
  * Shoshana Kamin
  * Eric Kandel
  * August Kanitz
  * Felix Philipp Kanitz
  * Leo Kanner
  * Leonid Kantorovich
  * Arthur Kantrowitz
  * Viktor Kaplan

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Posted by peter the jew on June 26, 2010, 01:34 PM | #

Google - Brin is the prime inventor and founder of clustered computer b-trees for distribution of the load and minimizing search query response time

Here is military Jews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_military_history

So What ? If Germans treat Jews equally they would’ve won the 2nd WW. Remember who created nukes.

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Posted by peter the jew on June 26, 2010, 01:43 PM | #

What alternative does the tapeworm have?  Is he going to admit the truth (which clearly he knows), then have to admit he’s in the wrong, and will have to change his way of living?  Of course not, mainly because he can’t change his way of living.  If he did that he wouldn’t be a tapeworm.  So he denies everything, stops talking to you, and goes on his merry tapeworm way.

That’s the Jews.  Just like Peter here.

Well I am honest contractor , and building software for my clients. My grandad died in Leningrad battle as a command commander in the infantry.

Another granddad was 2nd chef if submarine in the Northern sea , his sub scored some victories, My Grand-Grand-Grand dad had 3 Georgian crosses for service in the Russian army.

All the Jews I know work honestly or doing business honorably. Israelis are great fighters and great inventors, see who is building sun-powered 150 MW electro station. Who is the leader in water desalination. Teva pharmaceutical is the biggest pharma in Europe. The Brown company was “arianized” by nazis. I can continue this list long enough that your arian asses will have no patience to read (not talking about comprehension)

By the way Teo was right about IQ

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 26, 2010, 03:22 PM | #

”If Germans treat Jews equally they would’ve won the 2nd WW.”  (—Peter)

They treated them equally in the 1st WW and lost.  Guess who stabbed them in the back?  Right, the (fill in the blank) _______ .

As for the great discoveries and contributions which Jewish scientists, mathematicians, philosophers, doctors, composers, and so forth, have given the world — not to mention the contributions of ordinary Jews who are merely good citizens of the countries in which they live — we are grateful.  But that doesn’t excuse the evil Jews as a group are guilty of.  You say the Germans gassed six million Jews.  If I reply, “But think of all the great German scientists, mathematicians, engineers, doctors, composers, and so on,” will you say, “Oh yes, I didn’t think of that.  It’s OK then, that excuses it”?

It doesn’t excuse it.  Such a reply by me would be a sort of a non sequitur and is no less a non sequitur when made by you.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 26, 2010, 03:24 PM | #

What country are you living in?  I gather you are a Russian-Jewish immigrant to the U.S.?

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Posted by Kulak on June 26, 2010, 07:06 PM | #

So What ? If Germans treat Jews equally they would’ve won the 2nd WW. Remember who created nukes.

So Kommissar ‘peter’ is acknowleging the struggle over the Second World War really was all about Jews and Jewish power after all!!

Thanks for the admission, Tovarich!

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Posted by Kulak on June 26, 2010, 07:22 PM | #

Gee, Kommissar, Wikipedia, such an unbiased and honest source for all matters Jewish (the site that routinely scrubs any and all references to Jews or Zionism that are not sufficiently philo-semitic within a matter of minutes).

Yup, no bias there.

...The Jews simply deny the bad that they do no matter how blindingly obvious, and call the person pointing it out an “anti-Semite,” cutting off all possibility of communication between us and them on matters that are, to put it mildly, important. 

The fault for this complete impossibility of communication is theirs. - Fred Scrooby

It’s the Hasbara Handbook writ large, Fred.

This handbook is important for several reasons, the main one being that it demonstrates vividly how the process of “Zionizing” that is going on in the U.S. follows so closely the much maligned and discredited “Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”

According to reports we have received from college students, the issue of how those evil Islamists create suicide bombers by indoctrinating children with their evil religion is a topic that receives a lot of attention both on campuses and in the media, whether directly or indirectly. As one individual pointed out, the volume of material propagated about an issue should be an indicator that there is a great deal of effort devoted to “advocating” that issue. And here we mean advocating in the sense of “methinks they protest too much.”

The Hasbara handbook is concrete evidence that the Jewish/Zionist reactions to floods of facts are a planned and deliberate strategy for victory in social debate and in shaping U.S. policy favorable to Israel, regardless of that policy’s usefulness to the American people. The type of discourse described in this handbook is carried on at every level of American society: in Congress, in the Media, e.g., the recent bashing of President Carter, and most importantly, on school and college campuses across the nation.

a.saccus gives a short review of the Hasbara Handbook in the context of the attacks on Jimmy Carter:

Reading the article, and especially the comments of Abba Eban, a former Israeli Ambassador to the U.N., I wondered why it was that pro Israel debaters were so successful. And not only the article, but the comments posted after it here make instructive reading—and actually led me to an answer.

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2007/01/13/p13

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Posted by Wandrin on June 26, 2010, 08:19 PM | #

However Jewish people don’t have any interest in influencing European immigration policy ( this is the topic of our discussion). European Left-wing movements are anti-Zionist (Israel ) and by extension anti-semites. At the same time left-wingers are largely pro-muslim (color)

I used to be left-wing and i can tell you exactly what happened. jews in the west created a left-liberal ideology that was anti-white and pro unlimited mass immigration. They did it because they thought turning white people into a minority in those countries would be good for the jews. They didn’t do this openly as jews working for jewish interests because it wouldn’t work, an organisation called “jews for the genocide of white people” would not have got many white supporters. They created their immigration-genocide idealogy by disguising it as “anti-racism” and themselves as “anti-racists”.

Lots of white idealists got sucked into this “anti-racist” idealogy that in reality was anti-white. They believe in it like a religion. They spent decades attacking South Africa over it - whenever white people are in conflict with non-white they always side with the non-white - but they don’t really care about Rwanda or Darfur because both sides are black and so it would mean having to criticize non-white people. It’s the same with Sri Lanka and the Tamils.

Because jews are so hyper-racial they think everybody else is. If a jew walks into a room they always want to know who’s jewish and who isn’t. The sort of white people involved in the multicult don’t think that way. To them the Israelis are white/western and the palestinians are non-white/non-western. It will probably turn specifically anti-jewish over time because of the muslim influence but at the moment it is anti-white and a product of an ideology jews inthe west thought would be good for the jews.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to decieve.

All the Jews I know work honestly or doing business honorably.

I don’t doubt it.

However all the jews i know support the immigration-genocide of my people and do everything they possibly can to shout down anyone who tries to stop it.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 27, 2010, 12:11 PM | #

Excellent comment just above by Wandrin. 

For Peter:  aside from Wandrin’s comment just above which you would do well to study carefully (without your Jewblocker™ glasses on so you can actually see what he’s saying for a change) you might benefit from careful study of this recent log entry by Prof. MacDonald:

http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=2322

(again, remember to take off your Jewblockers™ when you read it, otherwise nothing, not one word, will register on your brain).

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 27, 2010, 12:26 PM | #

”Jews in the west created a left-liberal ideology that was anti-white and pro unlimited mass immigration.  They did it because they thought turning white people into a minority in those countries would be good for the Jews.  They didn’t do this openly as Jews working for Jewish interests because it wouldn’t work, an organisation called “Jews for the Genocide of White People” would not have got many white supporters.  They created their immigration-genocide ideology by disguising it as “anti-racism” and themselves as “anti-racists”.  Lots of white idealists got sucked into this “anti-racist” ideology that in reality was anti-white. […] To them the Israelis are white/western and the palestinians are non-white/non-western [so they side with the Palestinians].  It will probably turn specifically anti-Jewish over time because of the muslim influence but at the moment it is anti-white and a product of an ideology Jews in the west thought would be good for the Jews.  Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to decieve.”  (—Wandrin)

Why the Jews didn’t (and apparently still don’t) think they themselves would end up getting burned by government-enforced race-replacement of whites, race-replacement which they as a group have done so much to support and to bring about, is discussed in the following very interesting recent article by Ted Sallis:

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Sallis-Jewish-Ethnic-Genetic-Interests.html .

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 04, 2010, 11:25 AM | #

The Jews — as illustrated by the stand taken by the Central Council of Jews in Germany (see present log entry), by the hostile reaction of European organized Jewry to the Swiss referendum result against construction of more minarets, and by literally every official/organized Jewish manifestation there has been, not to mention every time a Jewish intellectual, journalist, politician, rabbi, film maker, entertainer, writer, etc., opens his yap on the subject — the Jews want lots of Moslems in Europe, as many as can possibly be imported and squeeed in. 

So, Jewry must be happy with the result of importing all these Moslems, right?  Wrong:  they’re leaving in droves because of all the Moslems they’ve insisted be imported:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4470 .

Anyone understand this?

It’s the same thing the Jews did in South Africa, pushed and pushed for Negro rule, then when there was Negro rule, took off for other countries.  They got the hell out of there, leaving the poor Boers to confront the hellaceous mess.

Actually I do understand it, have been commenting on it since 2006 or 7 roughly, and everyone knows my thoughts on the matter so I won’t belabor it here. 

The real question is, Why is an otherwise smart guy like Paul Belien a little “slow on the uptake” here?  Is he pretending not to notice the irony?  Why, in his log entry at the link, isn’t he confronting Jewry with its own blatantly inconsistent, obnoxious, uncivilized, destructive, and unacceptable behavior as I do in this comment?

That’s the real puzzle, not the hypocritical, two-faced destructiveness of Jewry which we’ve all come to discern perfectly by now so it’s no longer remotely a surprise.  But what’s up with Belien?  Why is he playing dumb?  OK so he’s not confrontational, shies away from “confronting” the Jews, maybe that’s not his style — but can’t he just gently “tweak” them a little?

The answer, apparently, is no.

Message to Mr. Belien:  Ostriches, heads, sand do not add up to “getting closer to solving the problem.”

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Posted by peter the jew on July 26, 2010, 09:57 PM | #

Op-ed: EU hostile to Jewish State because Israel’s success flaunts Europe’s failure

Moshe Dann
Published:    07.26.10, 10:51 / Israel Opinion
 
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Antipathy for Israel among Europeans is increasing and alarming as campaigns of de-legitimization and vilification spread across the world, fueled by Muslim propaganda and money, whetted by the hunger for oil. Even once friendly European countries, those that helped establish the State of Israel and tried to assist Jews during the Holocaust, have become more hostile towards Israel. Europe’s brief love affair with Israel seems over. Why?

Yoram Hazony, director of Jerusalem’s Shalem Center, offers a unique and compelling perspective:

“The path of national self-determination ... lies beneath the nearly boundless disgust so many feel towards Israel, and especially toward anything having to do with Israel’s attempts to defend itself… It is driven by the rapid advance of a new paradigm that understands Israel, and especially the independent Israeli use of force to defend itself, as illegitimate down to its foundations.”

Still, this does not explain why the right of self-defense, sacrosanct and enshrined in national and international law, does not apply to Israel.

For Europeans today, who did not experience the Holocaust, Israel is a constant reminder of their complicity and guilt in the genocide of Jews. They want to forget it; Israel can’t.

Before and after World War II, the Soviet Union slaughtered, persecuted and enslaved Jews in gulags, sponsored and trained Arab terrorists, and attempted to wipe out Judaism. Eventually, the barriers fell, Jews emigrated, and the USSR folded and became the FSU.

Every time we force European dignitaries to visit Yad Vashem, we rub their noses in what they allowed; a return to scenes of their crimes. We make them pay when they see how vibrant we are and - the ultimate snub, except for Russia - with an army more powerful than their own!

Deliberately, methodically, Europe became Judenrein; instead it has mosques and veils, and primitive Islamic laws to worry about.

Europe rid itself of most of its Jews - some escaped, built a country, and now Israel has a more stable economy than theirs. What an indignity that those whom you punished and persecuted for so long sing and dance before you, and make you pay to see their heritage revealed in archeological sites.


Let Arabs do dirty work

For 2,000 years, Europe expelled or murdered Jews, stole their property, tried to crush their spirit, and yet, they came back even stronger. Jews are on the cutting-edge of everything, while Europe can’t seem to find the tools. It doesn’t make sense.

Jews were supposed to be finished off in ghettos, gas ovens, and slave labor prisons. That didn’t work. Ok, give them a state and let the Arabs, generously supplied by most European governments and corporations, finish them off; that didn’t work either.

Ok, Oslo, a diplomatic coup, land-for-nothing: still undecided. Welcome Iran to do the job, its nuclear reactors built by Russians, French and Germans, financed by the ever-neutral Swiss; well, maybe that will work.

Israel’s success flaunts Europe’s failure. And, despite European economies going down the tubes, EU countries still fund Arab Palestinian hate groups and rescue terrorists. Having used the most powerful forces in the world to eliminate the Jewish people, Europeans must feel frustrated at the audacity of Jews, not only to defend themselves, but to survive as Jews, forcing their leaders to salute a flag that bears a Jewish symbol, and shake hands with Jewish generals.

Instead of their traditional Jew-hatred, Europeans smile, and slip cash to the Arabs to do their dirty work. Condemning Israel is easier than feeling shame.

Jews in Israel are a traumatized people. Traumatized by the Holocaust and by constant Arab terrorism, we are also traumatized by our own leaders who, in the name of peace, emboldened our sworn enemies and exposed us to their murderous efforts. And many Israeli academics never lose an opportunity to condemn the country that pays their salaries. Israel’s media often operate as propaganda machines for the Left.

How Europeans must relish their bigotry when they see Israeli political cartoons, opinion pieces (as “news”), literature and art that depict Israelis as vicious, Jews as despicable, and Judaism as worthless.

Ach, Europe, how you must shiver with humiliation when you need Israeli-produced technology, science and medicine. What angst overtakes you when you must decide whether to boycott Israeli fruit and vegetables, or enjoy them.

Like a supposedly dispatched victim, Israel comes back to haunt Europe, not only to confront it with its strength, but ablaze with Jewishness. What an indignity for Europeans to see flourishing Jewish communities instead of piled corpses, bones of those buried in mass execution pits renewed in Israeli children.

Europe hates Jews, finally, because it hates itself; it knows what European civilization allowed, permitted, and condoned. “Never Again” is the Jewish password; Europeans know it can.

The author is a writer and journalist living in Jerusalem

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Posted by Tanstaafl on July 26, 2010, 10:21 PM | #

Translation: You envy and need us you murderous goyim scum. We hate you.

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Posted by Rapture bunnies on July 26, 2010, 10:48 PM | #

Demented Christian Zionist rapture bunnies at “Rapture Forums” take pleasure in the death of Europe.

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Posted by peter the jew on July 27, 2010, 12:16 AM | #

Transtaf
Translation: You envy and need us you murderous goyim scum. We hate you.

Well you translation is really brief , but don’t you think that the article is truth ?

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Posted by Captainchaos on July 27, 2010, 12:33 AM | #

Truth: Jews have no natural right to live amongst us, much less to have us serve their interests without any regard for our own - the most basic of which is the interest we have in continuing to exist at all.  If Jews cannot bring themselves to act in a way which commends itself to life for those of European descent then they are our enemies.  Period.

What, you actually think that the interests of your people are and should be more important to us that that of our own people?!  LOL!  Stupid kike.

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Posted by peter the jew on July 27, 2010, 08:03 AM | #

Transtaf
Translation: You envy and need us you murderous goyim scum. We hate you.

Translation: European haters get what they deserve - muslim primitives who will f,..ck their women because men drink 2 match beer to get proper hard-up

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 27, 2010, 08:45 AM | #

Peter, Israel is doing so well and so much better than the goy countries, I guess it can do without the ten billion dollars a year wrung from American taxpayer hides?  And I guess there’s no point in Jews staying in goy countries leeching off of them on the one hand, and on the other doing everything they can to genocide their traditional peoples — so can we expect them all to make aliyah, end the diaspora once and for all, and finally, after two thousand years of mutual torment leave the Eurogoys alone and stop robbing, raping, pillaging, plundering, murdering, genociding the goys and after they’re dead stop picking their bones and humiliating their corpses?  With Israel doing so well and so much better than the Eurogoys, may we expect that to come to pass, Peter?  Dare we to pray to God for it?  At long last free of the Jews with their societal destruction, their theft, their goy-hatred, their corrupting influences everywhere you look, and their infliction of genocide?  Or is that heaven-on-Earth too much to hope for?

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Posted by Dasein on July 27, 2010, 09:08 AM | #

Jews were supposed to be finished off in ghettos, gas ovens, and slave labor prisons.

Gas ovens?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 27, 2010, 09:10 AM | #

”European haters get what they deserve - muslim primitives who will f,..ck their women because men drink 2 much beer to get proper hard-on”  (—Peter the Jew)

Is that why every Jew who opens his mouth, all official Jewry without exception, every Jewish organization in existence, and the Jews in the U.S. government who influence/coerce Western Europe the way the Jews in the Soviet Russian government used to influence/coerce Eastern Europe, push for the race-replacement of Europe with non-whites and the Islamization of Europe?  In order to give “European haters what they deserve”?

Wasn’t Israel supposed to end the diaspora problem, Peter?  Well, it hasn’t.  All it’s done is give us both Israel and the diaspora.  It’s done diddly squat to solve the two thousand year old Jewish Question.  (The Jewish Question is Jews continually tormenting Euros.)  Could the end of the diaspora possibly be arranged in time to stop Jewish communist Eurogoy hater and nation-destroyer David Miliband from becoming prime minister, son of Jewish communist agitator and nation-destroyer who destroyed the Boers by working with Jewish communist Joe Slovo to inflict Negro rule on them with the blessings of Jewish communists like Nadine Gordimer, grandson of Jewish communist nation-destroyer in Russia who participated in the slaughter of anti-Bolsheviks, David Miliband whose political rise is made possible in the first place only through Jewish political money blood-sucked from the English people and put to use to destroy them, nation and race?  Could that possibly be arranged?  It will come too late to prevent the U.S. Jews from creating Barack Obama out of thin air and installing him as president to try to hasten the death of the United States, nation and race, which is exactly what U.S. Jews did (thanks, Jews!  Oh and thanks for the 1965 immigration law too!  Much appreciated!), but maybe there’s still hope for Europe to save itself from the curse.  From what curse?  I’ll give you three guesses, Peter.

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Posted by peter the jew on July 27, 2010, 07:38 PM | #

Fred Scooby :

We don’t hate Goim , as a matter of fact the Goy could be more righteous than a Jew if he/her fulfills 7 Noahide commandments, please read and see that nothing evil is there :

The seven laws listed by the Tosefta and the Talmud are[3]

  1. Prohibition of Idolatry: You shall not have any idols before God.
  2. Prohibition of Murder: You shall not murder. (Genesis 9:6)
  3. Prohibition of Theft: You shall not steal.
  4. Prohibition of Sexual immorality: You shall not commit any of a series of sexual prohibitions, which include adultery, incest, anal intercourse between men, and bestiality.
  5. Prohibition of Blasphemy: You shall not blaspheme God’s name.
  6. Dietary Law: Do not eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive. (Genesis 9:4, as interpreted in the Talmud (Sanhedrin 59a)
  7. Requirement to have just Laws: Set up a governing body of law (eg Courts)

Regarding my previous post it was a natural reaction from the hateful posts prior to this. Regarding Europe - well please judge by yourself , just 65 years ago Nazis declared Jews inferior race and murdered more than 6 millions without distinction.  Of course the Jews don’t have warm feeling towards Europeans, but it is not in our self interest to have Europeans replaced with Muslims, as everybody understands the implications. At the same time Europeans are aligning themselves with the Muslim radials and Iran . both forces are trying to destroy Israel. Even though it is not in the self interest of Europeans to destroy Israel , as Israel it the last defense against Muslim domination. If Israel falls ( G-d forbid ) the Mid East will be united under muslim rule and 80% of oil will be controlled by Islam. The next step would be blackmail and forceful occupation of Europe.

Please read this article that partially explains this phenomenon
http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-16.htm

So please forget about hate - it is counterproductive.

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Posted by mitzvot 23: kill all idolator on July 27, 2010, 08:38 PM | #

Peter,

Tell us about your mitzvot to kill all idolators.

It is true goim who accept the Noahide laws (agree to serve as slaves to the Jews) are technically exempt, but in effect Jews are commanded to murder most of the world’s 6.7 billion free goys.

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Posted by peter the jew on July 27, 2010, 08:45 PM | #

Posted by mitzvot 23: kill all idolator on July 28, 2010, 12:38 AM | #

Peter,

Tell us about your mitzvot to kill all idolators.

It is true goim who accept the Noahide laws (agree to serve as slaves to the Jews) are technically exempt, but in effect Jews are commanded to murder most of the world’s 6.7 billion free goys.

Please stop smoking weed.

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Posted by peter the jew on July 27, 2010, 08:47 PM | #

The human rights activist and Canadian parliamentarian Irwin Cotler recently released yet another important document, “The Responsibility to Prevent” petition, detailing how Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s Iran oppresses its own citizens and threatens the world. Yet, like too many smokers ignoring clear cancer warnings, many liberals and intellectuals ignore the Iranian menace. Just this week, as Europe and Canada toughened their sanctions against Iran, filmmaker Oliver Stone denounced American policy toward Iran, suggesting we all should be kinder to Ahmadinejad and his government.

It is one of today’s most perplexing mysteries. Although human rights talk has become ubiquitous, “human rights” is too frequently wielded as a political weapon rather than respected as a universal standard. Thus, the UN Human Rights Council becomes the world headquarters for hypocrisy, with dictatorships blithely sitting in judgment on democracies while covering up their own crimes.

Even more surprising, beyond power politics, hypocrisy is rampant.

Many intellectuals, academics, journalists and human rights activists themselves, who should be paragons of purity are too frequently enablers of evil, giving cover to international criminals while singling out the US and most especially its close ally Israel for condemnation.

This epidemic of moral idiocy is epitomized by the harsh treatment Israel endures combined with the tremendous leniency afforded Islamism. The failure of so many Western thinkers today to condemn Islamism is as outrageous as was their predecessors’ failure to recognize communism’s evil in the 20th century. While communist appeasers fanatically sought the noble idea of equality, today’s Islamist appeasers have been similarly blinded by their zeal for diversity.

THE RESULT is a topsy-turvy moral universe. Israel gets no slack internationally and is constantly condemned for sins, both real and imagined. Perverse groups such as Queers against Israeli Apartheid pop up which, considering how free democratic Israel is and how unfree much of the Arab world is, makes as much sense as Doctors against Anti-Smoking Campaigns or Liberals for Islamism.

Israel’s harsh critics fail to see that if they were less relentless and more credible, they could have more impact. Tragically, delegitimizing Israel, criminalizing its every act of self-defense, questioning only its right to exist but no other nation’s, makes peace harder to achieve. How can a nation that is ostracized have enough faith to compromise, especially when Palestinians spearhead many of these efforts to wish it out of existence? Similarly, the moral free pass Islamism often enjoys encourages many evils threatening world peace today. Iran acts arrogantly, pursuing its nuclear goals, trouble-making worldwide by arming Hizbullah, Hamas and other terrorists, squelching, jailing, raping, torturing its own citizens. Saudi Arabia continues its stealth strategy, lavishly financing much terrorism, spreading its radical sexist, homophobic, totalitarian, antidemocratic, anti-Western, Islamist supremacist Wahhabi ideology, while masquerading as a responsible government and Western ally.

America’s handful of homegrown terrorists feel emboldened, knowing that the president himself hesitates to identify an Islamist massacre at Fort Hood, or Islamist attempts to blow up a jetliner and Times Square as Islamist terrorism.

Paul Berman, a thoughtful writer with impeccable liberal credentials, has spent a lot of time and lost a lot of natural allies since September 11 examining both the evils of Islamism and the cowardice of many modern liberals.

His 2003 tour de force Terror and Liberalism was based on his unfashionable instinct to do some homework and read the Islamist tracts available in English in bookstores near his Brooklyn home. The result was a terrifying guided tour of the Islamist ideology rooted in the worst jihadist impulses of traditional Islam, further poisoned by Western fascism and communism, yet packaged as palatable to too many Muslims in the West and liberals in denial.

IN HIS latest book, The Flight of the Intellectuals, Berman uses a case study, exploring the curious tale of Oxford fellow Tariq Ramadan.

Ramadan is a clever, manipulative professor who has become an intellectual pop star by disguising his radical Islamism as moderate, even progressive. Berman’s book is gripping, both when he explores just how radical, violent, anti- Semitic and destructive Islamist ideology is and when he identifies the many professorial and journalistic patsies who help Ramadan con the world.

Berman dissects Ramadan’s loyalty to the jihadist teachings of his grandfather Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood who was a close ally of the murderous Palestinian Hitlerite Haj Amin el-Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem. Husseini, who also plays the role of villain in another must-read book, Palestine Betrayed by Efraim Karsh, was embraced by Banna not despite but because he supported Adolf Hitler. A master of “double discourse,” which Berman defines as “language intended to deceive Western liberals about the grain of his own thought,” Ramadan soft-pedals this lethal legacy just as he employs a “veil of euphemism” when discussing the destructive Islamist addiction to terrorism.

Berman explains how the world’s supposed anti-racists became racist themselves. Radicals, then many liberals, in the 1980s began embracing a worldview that was sociological not ideological, with “a focus on social class instead of a focus on ideas.” And, tragically, bullying worked: The intimidation of the novelist Salman Rushdie and the generalized threat of terrorism cowed many intellectuals, keeping them in line.

Berman’s book echoes the wakeup call Karsh conveyed. Too many of us have internalized the delegitimization campaign against Israel and the West, ceding too much ground, forgetting the basics, losing our way. Much of the attack is rooted in traditional anti-Semitism crossbred with Islamic fundamentalists’ repudiation of enlightenment and liberal ideas. To regain our footing, we should study the origins of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as Karsh does, learn about the Islamist enemy as Berman does.

At the same time, we must return to the liberalism of Thomas Jefferson and John Stuart Mill, of Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt, of Betty Friedan and Martin Luther King, of Golda Meir and David Ben-Gurion. These heroes were visionary enough to dream of a better world – and tough enough to take on their enemies when necessary.

The writer is professor of history at McGill University in Montreal and a research fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem. He is the author of Why I Am A Zionist: Israel, Jewish Identity and the Challenges of Today and The Reagan Revolution: A Very Short Introduction. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

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Posted by Talmud Says: Kill the Best Gentiles on July 27, 2010, 08:50 PM | #

The Talmud also commands organized Jewry to “kill the best Gentiles.”

I wonder how many brilliant White leaders and geniuses (“the best Gentiles”) have been killed by organized Jewry throughout history?

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Posted by peter the jew on July 27, 2010, 08:57 PM | #

Posted by Talmud Says: Kill the Best Gentiles on July 28, 2010, 12:50 AM | #

The Talmud also commands organized Jewry to ”kill the best Gentiles.”

I wonder how many brilliant White leaders and geniuses (“the best Gentiles”) have been killed by organized Jewry throughout history?

Best gentiles -
Gentiles with the longest d..cks ? Or the guys who can drink over 1L of Vodka ?

Based on your gibberish every Jew kills 100 Gentiles in their lifetime (6.7 billion) . I mean no offense , but probably it will be a good idea for you to see your doctor ?

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Posted by mitzvot: burn out the cities of the idolator on July 27, 2010, 09:04 PM | #

Peter, tell all present here about the mitzvot (commandment from God) to burn out the cities of the idolator. That is, anyone who refuses to enslave himself to the Jewish god must have his place of dwelling subject to Deuteronomic annihilation.

Or the commandment to “not cease hating the idolator”.

Or the commandment to “not to cease incriminating the idolator” - that is, non-stop verbal warfare.

Jews have been doing this sort of shit for 2,000 years.

(The “idolator” means any goys. If you don’t worship the Jewish god, you’re an idolator.)

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Posted by peter the jew on July 27, 2010, 09:14 PM | #

Posted by mitzvot: burn out the cities of the idolator on July 28, 2010, 01:04 AM | #

Peter, tell all present here about the mitzvot (commandment from God) to burn out the cities of the idolator. That is, anyone who refuses to enslave himself to the Jewish god must have his place of dwelling subject to Deuteronomic annihilation.

Or the commandment to “not cease hating the idolator”.

Or the commandment to “not to cease incriminating the idolator” - that is, non-stop verbal warfare.

Jews have been doing this sort of shit for 2,000 years.

(The “idolator” means any goys. If you don’t worship the Jewish god, you’re an idolator.)

Please remind me the last city those bloodthirsty Jews burned in Europe ?  Second how about Christians who burned millions on the stakes ?

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Posted by 613 mitvot of evil on July 27, 2010, 10:01 PM | #

I don’t know about the other goim present, but of the following, much prefer Choice C:

a) Get beheaded by muzzies as an infidel.
b) Get stoned by hebrews as an idolator. (Or get burnt out of my dwelling… or burnt alive within the dwelling, as at Dresden, should I fail to evacuate in time.)
c) Neither of the above.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 27, 2010, 10:38 PM | #

Peter you’re mad at us because of stuff like the Wannsee Conference and Zyklon-B, we’re mad at you because of stuff like the Jewish Wannsee Conference (titled “Genocide by Pesach,” http://www.cis.org/node/1360 ,  http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/progress_by_pesach/ ) and Jewish Zyklon-B (the heavily-Jewish-promoted 1965 immigration law, http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Immigration.pdf ) — stuff like that galore.  Looks like the Jews give as good as they get.  I don’t know about other WNs but if the Jews stopped trying so hard to genocide Eurogoys maybe some of us Eurogoys would lighten up on Israel, but as long as we see the Jews trying to wipe us out with immigration our anger at them sort of overflows onto Israel.  It’s only normal, when you’re really angry you don’t make fine distinctions.  Maybe instead of talking to us you’d better talk to complete schmucks on your side like Abe Foxman and some of the other Jewish morons like the head of the AJC, the nincompoop who runs the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, the Jews who make the Jew York Times such an intolerable anti-white obnoxious rag, guys like that.  Call off their genocide and we’ll talk, OK?  Until then we’re cutting Israel no slack, sorry.  Go talk to them, Peter, we here have already heard it all and we’re not buying it any more, sorry. You sound like an OK guy, but ..... we can’t help you.

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Posted by The Editrix on August 23, 2010, 06:18 AM | #

Dear Commenters,

Just to correct a few blatant mistakes:

Giordano is a Jew only according to the Nuremberg Laws (and the Halacha). His mother was Jewish, his father wasn’t. He wasn’t brought up as a Jew, is a self-described atheist and has never spoken as a Jew or for “the Jews”. Stop applying the Nuremberg Laws here.

Kramer is a Jew by conversion, not by ethnicity. A CONVERT FROM THE PERPETRATOR PEOPLE. Some speculate whether he is an infiltrator out to harm the Jewish people.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 23, 2010, 08:29 AM | #

“Just to correct a few blatant mistakes:  Giordano is a Jew only according to the Nuremberg Laws (and the Halacha). His mother was Jewish, his father wasn’t.”  (—The Editrix)

As I recall, the Nuremberg Laws considered someone Jewish who had three Jewish grandparents.  If this person with a Jewish mother had two Jewish grandparents and two non-Jewish grandparents he would not have been considered Jewish under the Nuremberg Laws, but “mixed.”

Israel has its own set of Jewish Nuremberg Laws by the way, which all Jewish Israel-supporters apparently approve of.  Are the Jewish Nuremberg Laws by which Israel operates OK or is there something wrong with them?  (My take?  They’re OK and so were the Nazi ones.  Such laws preserve national existence and do great harm to no one.)

“A CONVERT FROM THE PERPETRATOR PEOPLE.”

Who’s mainly responsible for perpetrating race-replacement genocide today?  Do they qualify as “perpetrator people” too?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 23, 2010, 12:22 PM | #

“Kramer is a Jew by conversion, not by ethnicity.”  (—The Editrix)

OK so Kramer’s a nutjob who’s trying to prove himself by being more Catholic than the Pope.  But what about the others working alongside him, the real Jews who are doing the same thing?  What’s their excuse for their genocidal nutjob behavior?  Are they nutjobs too or just Jews?  Is there a difference?  Looking at some of the Jewish behavior you see, you have to wonder.

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Posted by Jon on September 01, 2010, 08:00 PM | #

It takes real courage to do what Sarrazin is doing… he’s risking jail! He’s probably going to lose his high-paying job at the German central bank ... and his Social Democrat party membership too.

If you speak GOOD German, write a comment on the Thilo Sarrazin fan club!

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Posted by Samir S. Halabi on January 23, 2011, 02:16 PM | #

So what is with you people, you wish to see the Jews genocided for the second time, ie two holocausts, one’s not enough for you. I despise all leftwingers whether or not they are Jewish or not, I will state however that’s it’s now high time for all europeans to wake up from their deep apathetic slumber, and stop being appeasing to all these islamic immigrants to europe, they are getting away with murder, they will never integrate into the mainstream society, have already inflicted their religion of intollerance on everbody, you talk so much about the Jews, at least they integrated very well and contrubuted to society in many fields. What have these muslims contrubuted to their new westen adopted homes, nothing but trouble. You won’t have to chase the jews out of europe, for the simple reason is that the muslims are doing that job very well for you. They have succeeded in destroying the Malmo jewish community, which once stood at almost 7,000, today barely 700 remain and reducing all the time because of the constant muslim attacks on these defenseless people, they are verbally abused, they are attacked in the streets, their synagogues are firebombed, their cemetries are desecrated, even little children are attacked for no other reason than they are Jewish. These muslims came from nowhere and now number around 500,000 maybe as much as 4.2% of the total population of Sweden.
Jewish population under 18,000 with many leaving all the time. I would be extremely concerned about that phenomenon, before the 2nd world war Germany’s jewish population was around 600,000 after the war a few thousand remained who came out of hiding. Today’s islamic population of germany is over three million and rising all the time. The Swedish authorities have done literally nothing in protecting their Jewish citizens from islamic violence. Last year i visited an elderly uncle in Malmo who was granted citizenship in 1950 after fleeing with his family from the violence that erupted there and all over the middle east against the Jewish community after the arab defeat in the Arab-Israel war of independence in 1948. I was just walking to my uncle’s appartment when i was attacked by three north african arabs, however what they didn’t know was that I came prepared, they never saw my giant Russian protector/guardian dog Russian military trained, as they came toward me my dog came out into full view from some bushes, knoking two down to the ground in one full sweep, I knocked the other also to the ground breaking both his arms. They all needed serious hospital attention, and by the time the police arrived I was gone.

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