2011 UK Census to be neutered

The coalition government, in its search for economies, is in the process of deciding to scrap the Office for National Statistics’ ten-yearly household census.  It favours a piecemeal approach based on public and private databases.

... critics raised concerns that the new methods will fail to provide the same detailed picture of the nation’s population, religion and social habits and described the decision as regrettable and a terrible mistake.

... Geoffrey Robertson QC, a constitutional barrister, said the news was ‘regrettable’ because since some sort of count had been carried out by the monarch or government of Britain for more than 1,000 years.

‘Future historians will be less able to interpret Britain as a result of this decision — maybe that is the reason for it.’

David Green, a director of the Civitas think tank, called the decision ‘a terrible mistake’.

‘It is a question of whether the alternatives are reliable. The census is expensive but I think it is worth the money for the historic continuity.’

Next year’s national Census cannot be stopped, but will be subject to unspecified economies.  The implications for the content of the questionnaire, which currently allows “whites” to specify their ethnicity, the first box in this section being “English - Welsh - Scottish - Northern Irish - British”, and for the resultant database, due to be available from the middle of 2012, is now uncertain.  Thereafter, it is difficult to see how information on ethnicity can be extracted from other databases.  Country of birth, yes, but racial origin, no.  The process of replacement cannot be accurately measured without that information, and that does not help us at all.

Posted by Guessedworker on Saturday, July 10, 2010 at 04:06 AM in Demographics
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Posted by Dasein on July 10, 2010, 08:13 AM | #

GW,

Is the title of the blog entry correct?  It says in the article that it will be too late to prevent the 2011 census (and it also says that Labour has already spent £300 million- bless their hearts, one thing they did right).  Unless the cost reduction Maude has in mind involves sparing the costs of actually publishing the thing (insane as it sounds, I wouldn’t put it past them!). 

Long term, though, it looks like the UK is going towards the French model of not permitting the collection of race-based statistics.  We’ll be left with the sort of thing Armor posted on the percentage of newborns susceptible to some negroid heritable disease (can’t find the link to that comment at the moment).

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Posted by Guessedworker on July 10, 2010, 09:57 AM | #

Dasein,

Many thanks - obviously I missed that in my rush to get something new on the page.  I have now corrected it, and contextualised the 2011 Census within the planned changes.

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Posted by Dan Dare on July 10, 2010, 01:41 PM | #

I think that Dasein is correct and that the real purpose of discontinuing the census is to phase out the collection of statistics on race and ethnicity at a national level.

The 2011 census is likely to expose to the public gaze what we here already know, and the reaction is bound to be one of shock and horror amongst the unawakened. This will be viewed by the elites as counter-productive and not in the interests of ‘community cohesion’.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 10, 2010, 02:15 PM | #

As they see things they’ve got to keep it from the public until such time as they deem it to be politically irreversible.  At that point they won’t give a damn who knows it, no one’ll be able to do anything about it.  Then they’ll be ecstatic.

If we ever do get out from under this, of course, all their pre-meditation of precisely this variety will only count all the more against them.  At the trials.

No, they’ll be fair.  The trials will. 

Which is why the culprits ought to be terrified of our ever again gaining the upper hand:  their trials will be fair.

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Posted by Dan Dare on July 10, 2010, 03:01 PM | #

The accumulation of statistics on race and ethnicity is deprecated at the EU level as well, there is no central source that collates such information even though Eurostat seems to require national governments to report on everything under the sun (except that). It does issue periodic reports on the numbers of non-EU citizens resident in each member state, but that’s it.

Germany hasn’t run a national census since 1987, although it will participate in the EU-wide census next year. I believe this will be based on small-scale ‘statistically relevant’ samples though and not a full-scale house-by-house census.

I will try to locate a copy of the EU questionnaire for our inspection but given what we already know I don’t expect to be a useful source for data on race and ethinicity.

It seems that nobody wants to know.

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Posted by Dan Dare on July 10, 2010, 03:12 PM | #

It didn’t take long to turn up the relevant EU directive.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2008:218:0014:0020:EN:PDF

As anticipated, there is no requirement on national governments to report on race or ethicity in its returns to the EU, and member states are free to use a variety of sampling techniques.

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Posted by Angry Beard on July 11, 2010, 07:31 AM | #

Every nation worthy of the name conducts at least a decennial census.
- It’s simply the most vital statistic any nation state can muster, more vital in fact than its acerage.
Even the most raggedy-arse, fly-blown third world states can manage to conduct a census.Britain apparently cannot.
Anyway, it’ll be a blow to family historians of the future trying to discern their roots, as GW said that’s probably the whole idea.

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